Don't buy in MoCo until the school redistricting is setled?

[Anonymous]

https://radiopublic.com/the-mocoshow-6nbJaj/s1!4e871

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://radiopublic.com/the-mocoshow-6nbJaj/s1!4e871

It was interesting what a woman at 14:10 time line mark said..
something more less "they did say they are not going to bus kids across the county
but they did not say they won't bus kids.. between closer boundaries.. "

or something to that affect.

thoughts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://radiopublic.com/the-mocoshow-6nbJaj/s1!4e871

It was interesting what a woman at 14:10 time line mark said..
something more less "they did say they are not going to bus kids across the county
but they did not say they won't bus kids.. between closer boundaries.. "

or something to that affect.

thoughts?

The language they keep using is adjacent clusters. That is also how they rezoned in the recently completed studies. They don't have any interest in creating lengthy bus routes.

[Anonymous]

How do we vote these clowns out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How do we vote these clowns out?

You have to find candidates you like to vote in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://radiopublic.com/the-mocoshow-6nbJaj/s1!4e871

It was interesting what a woman at 14:10 time line mark said..
something more less "they did say they are not going to bus kids across the county
but they did not say they won't bus kids.. between closer boundaries.. "

or something to that affect.

thoughts?

As a PP said, they will look at adjacent clusters, some of which are badly gerrymandered at the present. Why are they gerrymandered, you might ask?

Well, in some cases they were designed to preserve patterns of residential and educational segregation, so you have kids being bused "across the county" to a more segregated school, when an integrated one is right down the road.

In some cases, it wasn't about preserving segregation, but rather just because housing developments arrived, and those families needed to be assigned *somewhere* and it made sense to create an "island" inside another school zone.

In some cases, someone important lived somewhere and fought to get their own neighborhood grandfathered into a different zone.

By looking at all of this together, and adjusting adjacent school zones, MCPS is trying to deal with schools where the boundaries make no sense, where the boundaries reinforce segregation, and where they lead to overcrowded schools sitting next to schools with space.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://radiopublic.com/the-mocoshow-6nbJaj/s1!4e871

It was interesting what a woman at 14:10 time line mark said..
something more less "they did say they are not going to bus kids across the county
but they did not say they won't bus kids.. between closer boundaries.. "

or something to that affect.

thoughts?

As a PP said, they will look at adjacent clusters, some of which are badly gerrymandered at the present. Why are they gerrymandered, you might ask?

Well, in some cases they were designed to preserve patterns of residential and educational segregation, so you have kids being bused "across the county" to a more segregated school, when an integrated one is right down the road.

In some cases, it wasn't about preserving segregation, but rather just because housing developments arrived, and those families needed to be assigned *somewhere* and it made sense to create an "island" inside another school zone.

In some cases, someone important lived somewhere and fought to get their own neighborhood grandfathered into a different zone.

By looking at all of this together, and adjusting adjacent school zones, MCPS is trying to deal with schools where the boundaries make no sense, where the boundaries reinforce segregation, and where they lead to overcrowded schools sitting next to schools with space.

I don’t believe that’s what MCPS has said. They are following policy FAA, which says none of those things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://radiopublic.com/the-mocoshow-6nbJaj/s1!4e871

It was interesting what a woman at 14:10 time line mark said..
something more less "they did say they are not going to bus kids across the county
but they did not say they won't bus kids.. between closer boundaries.. "

or something to that affect.

thoughts?

The language they keep using is adjacent clusters. That is also how they rezoned in the recently completed studies. They don't have any interest in creating lengthy bus routes.

Oh but that is wonderful. When you look at current boundaries you can do wonders by redrawing lines to
include low income areas into the good schools making them more fair and no bussing needed.
This is Wootton for one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://radiopublic.com/the-mocoshow-6nbJaj/s1!4e871

It was interesting what a woman at 14:10 time line mark said..
something more less "they did say they are not going to bus kids across the county
but they did not say they won't bus kids.. between closer boundaries.. "

or something to that affect.

thoughts?

As a PP said, they will look at adjacent clusters, some of which are badly gerrymandered at the present. Why are they gerrymandered, you might ask?

Well, in some cases they were designed to preserve patterns of residential and educational segregation, so you have kids being bused "across the county" to a more segregated school, when an integrated one is right down the road.

In some cases, it wasn't about preserving segregation, but rather just because housing developments arrived, and those families needed to be assigned *somewhere* and it made sense to create an "island" inside another school zone.

In some cases, someone important lived somewhere and fought to get their own neighborhood grandfathered into a different zone.

By looking at all of this together, and adjusting adjacent school zones, MCPS is trying to deal with schools where the boundaries make no sense, where the boundaries reinforce segregation, and where they lead to overcrowded schools sitting next to schools with space.

This can be addressed by the boundary redrawing, plus if they will create more magnets in the W schools, then
parents can will bring kids form poor areas and make schools more diverse and blended without bussing needed.

[Anonymous]

what if nobody goes? My daughter for instance has tons of friends in her W school. Lets say she gets pushed out, what if she does not go?

I can enroll her Private, use a neighbors address within W school, apply for a magnet, heck move to VA. Or even rent in zone for awhile.

Big reason I live in a W zone is for my kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:what if nobody goes? My daughter for instance has tons of friends in her W school. Lets say she gets pushed out, what if she does not go?

I can enroll her Private, use a neighbors address within W school, apply for a magnet, heck move to VA. Or even rent in zone for awhile.

Big reason I live in a W zone is for my kids.

"W Zone" is a social construct. It only exists because we think it does, and the idea of a "W feeder" is a doubleplus social construct.

If you want to commit boundary fraud, go for it. You're risking embarrassment for yourself and your child, but go for it.

Similarly, if you have an extra $40K per year and want to pay for private school, please feel free.

If your child can get into a magnet, there's nothing stopping her from applying. Good luck!

Or...enjoy Virginia, but be aware that redistricting is happening there as well.

[Anonymous]

Some people own in other clusters but rent out the house they own and rent another one in the W clusters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://radiopublic.com/the-mocoshow-6nbJaj/s1!4e871

It was interesting what a woman at 14:10 time line mark said..
something more less "they did say they are not going to bus kids across the county
but they did not say they won't bus kids.. between closer boundaries.. "

or something to that affect.

thoughts?

As a PP said, they will look at adjacent clusters, some of which are badly gerrymandered at the present. Why are they gerrymandered, you might ask?

Well, in some cases they were designed to preserve patterns of residential and educational segregation, so you have kids being bused "across the county" to a more segregated school, when an integrated one is right down the road.

In some cases, it wasn't about preserving segregation, but rather just because housing developments arrived, and those families needed to be assigned *somewhere* and it made sense to create an "island" inside another school zone.

In some cases, someone important lived somewhere and fought to get their own neighborhood grandfathered into a different zone.

By looking at all of this together, and adjusting adjacent school zones, MCPS is trying to deal with schools where the boundaries make no sense, where the boundaries reinforce segregation, and where they lead to overcrowded schools sitting next to schools with space.

This can be addressed by the boundary redrawing, plus if they will create more magnets in the W schools, then
parents can will bring kids form poor areas and make schools more diverse and blended without bussing needed.

Wouldn't magnets benefit wealthy families more than families in poor areas? I'm not in MOCO, but if you pupil place in FFX, you have to provide your own transportation. That's probably not a big deal to wealthy parents who might have a flexible work schedule or can hire transportation, but to families who depend on the bus to get them to and from school every day, that's not an option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://radiopublic.com/the-mocoshow-6nbJaj/s1!4e871

It was interesting what a woman at 14:10 time line mark said..
something more less "they did say they are not going to bus kids across the county
but they did not say they won't bus kids.. between closer boundaries.. "

or something to that affect.

thoughts?

As a PP said, they will look at adjacent clusters, some of which are badly gerrymandered at the present. Why are they gerrymandered, you might ask?

Well, in some cases they were designed to preserve patterns of residential and educational segregation, so you have kids being bused "across the county" to a more segregated school, when an integrated one is right down the road.

In some cases, it wasn't about preserving segregation, but rather just because housing developments arrived, and those families needed to be assigned *somewhere* and it made sense to create an "island" inside another school zone.

In some cases, someone important lived somewhere and fought to get their own neighborhood grandfathered into a different zone.

By looking at all of this together, and adjusting adjacent school zones, MCPS is trying to deal with schools where the boundaries make no sense, where the boundaries reinforce segregation, and where they lead to overcrowded schools sitting next to schools with space.

This can be addressed by the boundary redrawing, plus if they will create more magnets in the W schools, then
parents can will bring kids form poor areas and make schools more diverse and blended without bussing needed.

Wouldn't magnets benefit wealthy families more than families in poor areas? I'm not in MOCO, but if you pupil place in FFX, you have to provide your own transportation. That's probably not a big deal to wealthy parents who might have a flexible work schedule or can hire transportation, but to families who depend on the bus to get them to and from school every day, that's not an option.

MCPS has busing for the test-in magnets. It is still a burden on low-income families that rely on older kids for childcare, but they don't have to travel to the new school on their own.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:what if nobody goes? My daughter for instance has tons of friends in her W school. Lets say she gets pushed out, what if she does not go?

I can enroll her Private, use a neighbors address within W school, apply for a magnet, heck move to VA. Or even rent in zone for awhile.

Big reason I live in a W zone is for my kids.

yup just look at that brooklyn study in the NYT

high income kids that got zoned to the crappiest schools just went private or moved. Barely any high income folks actually went to the crappy school