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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe there isn’t any mention of the restaurant scene and Stella’s predicament. IMO that was pretty major.


Uh the waitress got a tip if $20k. Anyone would have done it. If the guys had asked for her to sleep with them she would have.


I would totally lick up water from a table for $20k! I think Stella was more upset than the waitress. It was a pretty disturbing scene.


DP. It really was disturbing. It was somewhat "comforting" to see how upset Stella was by it too. At least she knew how disgusting it was. She should have gone back later and given the waitress a heartfelt apology - and another huge tip.


I still don’t know why Stella’s character is in this series. So far has really added anything or had much screen time. Just finished the Coney Island episode. Maybe her character will get better.
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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe there isn’t any mention of the restaurant scene and Stella’s predicament. IMO that was pretty major.


Uh the waitress got a tip if $20k. Anyone would have done it. If the guys had asked for her to sleep with them she would have.


I would totally lick up water from a table for $20k! I think Stella was more upset than the waitress. It was a pretty disturbing scene.


DP. It really was disturbing. It was somewhat "comforting" to see how upset Stella was by it too. At least she knew how disgusting it was. She should have gone back later and given the waitress a heartfelt apology - and another huge tip.


I still don’t know why Stella’s character is in this series. So far has really added anything or had much screen time. Just finished the Coney Island episode. Maybe her character will get better.


We get it, you've posted several times you don't like Stella. Can we move on from this?
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I found this last episode irritating -- I think it was a clumsy way to reveal key details of what happened between seasons, to explain Bradley's relationships with Laura and Cory, and also what's going on with Mia. I think it would have worked better if they'd sprinkled the flashbacks through multiple episodes, especially since Mia's storyline was really separate while Bradley's, Stella's, and Cory's were interrelated, so it made Mia's scenes feel really tacked on.

I still don't really get exactly what happened with Mia and her boyfriend. There was virtually no prelude to him going out drinking and it is never explained why he did it, even though I feel like it would have been relatively easy to show him getting increasingly annoyed with isolation while Mia was really committed. Instead it felt extremely abrupt and then he goes to Afghanistan. I think they could have spent an entire episode on Mia and this guy, and on Mia dealing with the pandemic and with BLM and how that impacts her relationship and her work, but instead they shoehorned it into an episode that really belongs to Bradley. Lame.

Regarding Bradley, I continue to not love Reese in this role and find so many of her characters choices just utterly baffling. She has previously been shown to be the kind of person who does the "right" thing even when it's really annoying for other characters, so seeing her turn on a dime to protect her brother was so inconsistent. The implication is she's doing it for her niece, but that felt so inauthentic. I also just think the whole way her storyline unfolded, with her mom dying offscreen while she and Laura are playing celebrity in Montana, and then lots of shots of Cory NOT calling her or reaching out, then suddenly she's in DC but even the timeline of that was weird because she's suddenly in the Capitol with no build up, and then she's in a hotel room with her brother, and then she's in the office. There was just no sense of place in those scenes and it felt really disjointed and not driven by character or relationships at all, just the show deciding "Ok how do we shoehorn in J6, well let's send Bradley there." It just felt like they were moving pieces around on a chessboard and not like a story unfolding.

I had been liking the season up until this episode so I'm hoping now that they've got that exposition out of the way, we can get back to some actual character and story development with these people.
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, now we know why Bradley owes Cory for several enormous things. Sorry, it's bogus to protect a family member who engaged in that particular criminality. No integrity.


Yep. I have zero sympathy for Bradley and can’t believe the cover up.


Wait, what? You would turn in your brother if situation were reversed?
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, now we know why Bradley owes Cory for several enormous things. Sorry, it's bogus to protect a family member who engaged in that particular criminality. No integrity.


Yep. I have zero sympathy for Bradley and can’t believe the cover up.


Wait, what? You would turn in your brother if situation were reversed?




Were you not following the news? People absolutely turned in close family members because what they did was REPREHENSIBLE.
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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe there isn’t any mention of the restaurant scene and Stella’s predicament. IMO that was pretty major.


Uh the waitress got a tip if $20k. Anyone would have done it. If the guys had asked for her to sleep with them she would have.


I would totally lick up water from a table for $20k! I think Stella was more upset than the waitress. It was a pretty disturbing scene.


DP. It really was disturbing. It was somewhat "comforting" to see how upset Stella was by it too. At least she knew how disgusting it was. She should have gone back later and given the waitress a heartfelt apology - and another huge tip.


I still don’t know why Stella’s character is in this series. So far has really added anything or had much screen time. Just finished the Coney Island episode. Maybe her character will get better.


We get it, you've posted several times you don't like Stella. Can we move on from this?

Obviously you son’s get it. This is my first post regarding Stella.
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Anonymous wrote:Ok, now we know why Bradley owes Cory for several enormous things. Sorry, it's bogus to protect a family member who engaged in that particular criminality. No integrity.


Yep. I have zero sympathy for Bradley and can’t believe the cover up.


Wait, what? You would turn in your brother if situation were reversed?


I would not commit tampering with evidence, obstruction of justice or conspiracy to obstruct justice for my brother if he was an insurrectionist who assaulted a police officer. He!! no. If I was subpoenaed I would hand it over.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I found this last episode irritating -- I think it was a clumsy way to reveal key details of what happened between seasons, to explain Bradley's relationships with Laura and Cory, and also what's going on with Mia. I think it would have worked better if they'd sprinkled the flashbacks through multiple episodes, especially since Mia's storyline was really separate while Bradley's, Stella's, and Cory's were interrelated, so it made Mia's scenes feel really tacked on.

I still don't really get exactly what happened with Mia and her boyfriend. There was virtually no prelude to him going out drinking and it is never explained why he did it, even though I feel like it would have been relatively easy to show him getting increasingly annoyed with isolation while Mia was really committed. Instead it felt extremely abrupt and then he goes to Afghanistan. I think they could have spent an entire episode on Mia and this guy, and on Mia dealing with the pandemic and with BLM and how that impacts her relationship and her work, but instead they shoehorned it into an episode that really belongs to Bradley. Lame.

Regarding Bradley, I continue to not love Reese in this role and find so many of her characters choices just utterly baffling. She has previously been shown to be the kind of person who does the "right" thing even when it's really annoying for other characters, so seeing her turn on a dime to protect her brother was so inconsistent. The implication is she's doing it for her niece, but that felt so inauthentic. I also just think the whole way her storyline unfolded, with her mom dying offscreen while she and Laura are playing celebrity in Montana, and then lots of shots of Cory NOT calling her or reaching out, then suddenly she's in DC but even the timeline of that was weird because she's suddenly in the Capitol with no build up, and then she's in a hotel room with her brother, and then she's in the office. There was just no sense of place in those scenes and it felt really disjointed and not driven by character or relationships at all, just the show deciding "Ok how do we shoehorn in J6, well let's send Bradley there." It just felt like they were moving pieces around on a chessboard and not like a story unfolding.

I had been liking the season up until this episode so I'm hoping now that they've got that exposition out of the way, we can get back to some actual character and story development with these people.


I'm the opposite -- loved this episode. Mia told her BF that she loved Mitch Kessler -- who he said a minute earlier was disgusting. I think that's enough to put someone over the edge.

I really want Cory and Bradley to get together. I know it won't happen, or should happen, but it really it shows that he's human that he loves her.

I was surprised that Bradley spent so long in Montana, as it had been alluded to that she hadn't been there at all. That was truly shocking about her brother. It's going to bite her in the a$$.
Anonymous
pp here, and I love Stella. Can't wait for more of her backstory. Especially with the friend basically forgiving her for what she did...which was....?
Anonymous
So Bradley got the evening news because of Jan 6 coverage and because she won’t work in person in Montana with Laura anymore? I guess she already was on evening news by the time she told Corey about the deleted footage?
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Anonymous wrote:I found this last episode irritating -- I think it was a clumsy way to reveal key details of what happened between seasons, to explain Bradley's relationships with Laura and Cory, and also what's going on with Mia. I think it would have worked better if they'd sprinkled the flashbacks through multiple episodes, especially since Mia's storyline was really separate while Bradley's, Stella's, and Cory's were interrelated, so it made Mia's scenes feel really tacked on.

I still don't really get exactly what happened with Mia and her boyfriend. There was virtually no prelude to him going out drinking and it is never explained why he did it, even though I feel like it would have been relatively easy to show him getting increasingly annoyed with isolation while Mia was really committed. Instead it felt extremely abrupt and then he goes to Afghanistan. I think they could have spent an entire episode on Mia and this guy, and on Mia dealing with the pandemic and with BLM and how that impacts her relationship and her work, but instead they shoehorned it into an episode that really belongs to Bradley. Lame.

Regarding Bradley, I continue to not love Reese in this role and find so many of her characters choices just utterly baffling. She has previously been shown to be the kind of person who does the "right" thing even when it's really annoying for other characters, so seeing her turn on a dime to protect her brother was so inconsistent. The implication is she's doing it for her niece, but that felt so inauthentic. I also just think the whole way her storyline unfolded, with her mom dying offscreen while she and Laura are playing celebrity in Montana, and then lots of shots of Cory NOT calling her or reaching out, then suddenly she's in DC but even the timeline of that was weird because she's suddenly in the Capitol with no build up, and then she's in a hotel room with her brother, and then she's in the office. There was just no sense of place in those scenes and it felt really disjointed and not driven by character or relationships at all, just the show deciding "Ok how do we shoehorn in J6, well let's send Bradley there." It just felt like they were moving pieces around on a chessboard and not like a story unfolding.

I had been liking the season up until this episode so I'm hoping now that they've got that exposition out of the way, we can get back to some actual character and story development with these people.


I didn't love this ep either - mostly because I have less than zero interest in revisiting what it felt like living in the COVID years.

That said - I think Bradley is feeling enormous guilt over leaving her family behind, and her mother's death, and she is trying to protect her brother. Like, she can't do much to fix things, but she can at least not air video of her brother actively assaulting a Capitol police officer. I'm not sure why Cory helped her, except I guess he still sorta loves her and COVID made people do weird things.

Mia and her boyfriend - I think we're seeing that everyone's at their best and lovey dovey at the beginning of lockdown. Then people sorta lose their minds in different ways. Her boyfriend let off steam by going to bars and getting drunk - and Mia flipped (reasonably? unreasonably? I don't know). Then he felt abandoned/guilty, and got an assignment to go to Afghanistan - and just took it. People were not at their best, and had started sabotaging themselves and their relationships.
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Anonymous wrote:I found this last episode irritating -- I think it was a clumsy way to reveal key details of what happened between seasons, to explain Bradley's relationships with Laura and Cory, and also what's going on with Mia. I think it would have worked better if they'd sprinkled the flashbacks through multiple episodes, especially since Mia's storyline was really separate while Bradley's, Stella's, and Cory's were interrelated, so it made Mia's scenes feel really tacked on.

I still don't really get exactly what happened with Mia and her boyfriend. There was virtually no prelude to him going out drinking and it is never explained why he did it, even though I feel like it would have been relatively easy to show him getting increasingly annoyed with isolation while Mia was really committed. Instead it felt extremely abrupt and then he goes to Afghanistan. I think they could have spent an entire episode on Mia and this guy, and on Mia dealing with the pandemic and with BLM and how that impacts her relationship and her work, but instead they shoehorned it into an episode that really belongs to Bradley. Lame.

Regarding Bradley, I continue to not love Reese in this role and find so many of her characters choices just utterly baffling. She has previously been shown to be the kind of person who does the "right" thing even when it's really annoying for other characters, so seeing her turn on a dime to protect her brother was so inconsistent. The implication is she's doing it for her niece, but that felt so inauthentic. I also just think the whole way her storyline unfolded, with her mom dying offscreen while she and Laura are playing celebrity in Montana, and then lots of shots of Cory NOT calling her or reaching out, then suddenly she's in DC but even the timeline of that was weird because she's suddenly in the Capitol with no build up, and then she's in a hotel room with her brother, and then she's in the office. There was just no sense of place in those scenes and it felt really disjointed and not driven by character or relationships at all, just the show deciding "Ok how do we shoehorn in J6, well let's send Bradley there." It just felt like they were moving pieces around on a chessboard and not like a story unfolding.

I had been liking the season up until this episode so I'm hoping now that they've got that exposition out of the way, we can get back to some actual character and story development with these people.


I didn't love this ep either - mostly because I have less than zero interest in revisiting what it felt like living in the COVID years.

That said - I think Bradley is feeling enormous guilt over leaving her family behind, and her mother's death, and she is trying to protect her brother. Like, she can't do much to fix things, but she can at least not air video of her brother actively assaulting a Capitol police officer. I'm not sure why Cory helped her, except I guess he still sorta loves her and COVID made people do weird things.

Mia and her boyfriend - I think we're seeing that everyone's at their best and lovey dovey at the beginning of lockdown. Then people sorta lose their minds in different ways. Her boyfriend let off steam by going to bars and getting drunk - and Mia flipped (reasonably? unreasonably? I don't know). Then he felt abandoned/guilty, and got an assignment to go to Afghanistan - and just took it. People were not at their best, and had started sabotaging themselves and their relationships.


^ Right, yeah, sorry, he flipped out after she disclosed that she'd loved Mitch
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I think one part of the reason that Bradley didn't turn her brother in or release the footage is that she knew it would reflect poorly on her and could impact her reputation, and thus her career.

I also think she wanted to protect him and had enormous guilt about her mom's death and leaving her family behind with her success, but it doesn't have to be either/or. When she saw him at the Capitol, I absolutely think part of her thinking was realizing that she could be in some way implicated and wanting the problem to go away.

I also think that asking for evening news as she delivered the J6 footage to Stella was a calculated move to protect herself, knowing that the network might cut ties with a morning co-anchor who did something unethical or had a brother who was a felon, but would do more to protect their evening anchor. She wanted the leverage, both to protect her brother AND to protect herself.

This show is about ambition and what people are willing to do in service to it.
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Anonymous wrote:I think one part of the reason that Bradley didn't turn her brother in or release the footage is that she knew it would reflect poorly on her and could impact her reputation, and thus her career.

I also think she wanted to protect him and had enormous guilt about her mom's death and leaving her family behind with her success, but it doesn't have to be either/or. When she saw him at the Capitol, I absolutely think part of her thinking was realizing that she could be in some way implicated and wanting the problem to go away.

I also think that asking for evening news as she delivered the J6 footage to Stella was a calculated move to protect herself, knowing that the network might cut ties with a morning co-anchor who did something unethical or had a brother who was a felon, but would do more to protect their evening anchor. She wanted the leverage, both to protect her brother AND to protect herself.

This show is about ambition and what people are willing to do in service to it.


Yeah - maybe that's right about her not wanting to be implicated. I hadn't thought of that!

I'm not sure the show is about ambition? I'm not sure what it's about at all actually. It's just very soapy. I enjoy it, but it's not like Succession where it was clear that every character would slit a guy's throat for a little power.
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Anonymous wrote:I think one part of the reason that Bradley didn't turn her brother in or release the footage is that she knew it would reflect poorly on her and could impact her reputation, and thus her career.

I also think she wanted to protect him and had enormous guilt about her mom's death and leaving her family behind with her success, but it doesn't have to be either/or. When she saw him at the Capitol, I absolutely think part of her thinking was realizing that she could be in some way implicated and wanting the problem to go away.

I also think that asking for evening news as she delivered the J6 footage to Stella was a calculated move to protect herself, knowing that the network might cut ties with a morning co-anchor who did something unethical or had a brother who was a felon, but would do more to protect their evening anchor. She wanted the leverage, both to protect her brother AND to protect herself.

This show is about ambition and what people are willing to do in service to it.


Yeah - maybe that's right about her not wanting to be implicated. I hadn't thought of that!

I'm not sure the show is about ambition? I'm not sure what it's about at all actually. It's just very soapy. I enjoy it, but it's not like Succession where it was clear that every character would slit a guy's throat for a little power.


I think it's about ambition but the universe of network news is more complex than the empire on Succession where one person was in charge and the battle was about currying favor with him and hopefully getting his job.

The Morning Show has no one locus of power. The network and the people who run it are powerful but beholden to shareholders. The news celebrities have power and leverage but their audience can turn on them. The people who work behind the scenes don't have much absolute power but they often love their proximity to power as well as the very real power they wield over the news and how it gets delivered. There is this constant jockeying between all these moving parts for leverage and power, all while trying to project the image of being serious journalists who only care about doing their jobs (which sometimes they are, and sometimes they aren't).

Paul Marks is interesting because he's not like this. He's like the people on Succession -- he has more absolute power in the form of a mountain of cash that he gets to decide how to use. So I think it could be interesting to watch him interact with these people who are used to having to sing for their supper all the time. He definitely has the upper hand, but his day with Alex indicates that she might know how to work him.
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