Mundo Verde 8th St

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We're moving to our inbound school next fall from MV. Most parents don't recognize the challenges at MV until they are several years in. By then, your kid typically has a nice groups of friends, and you have to weigh upsetting the routine against what for many people isn't a strong inbound option. So many play the lottery for other options. Some win, others don't.

We waited until my older child finished 5th grade and are moving the younger one. But we are one of the rare families who have a good inbound option. Think about it. You don't see families from Murch or Janney or Key at MV. It has,for better or worse, become a viable option for those who have failing neighborhood schools. And by that measure, depending on your opinion of charters, it serves a valuable purpose and has built great demand. But it isn't a "free version of WIS" or anything those WOTP would consider strong. We know families who have moved from MV to WIS, and it is like night and day.

If MV is the best option in your consideration set, go for it. Just have eyes open and know if will be a lot of work and frustration for you and your kid.

MV attracts much more WOTP families that, say, ITS, based on the commute maps released yesterday: https://dcpcsb.egnyte.com/dl/myCFSlPmum/

[Anonymous]

If I could afford WIS or another private school, I wouldn't be attending any number of public schools in DC. I would expect that private versus public charter would be a night and day experience.

[Anonymous]

Are there any charter schools, especially at the elementary level, that are attended primarily by students with strong inbound schools/feeder paths? I don’t think so. The charter system exists in part to give parents in low performing schools an out. I’d much prefer magnet programs, putting interesting and innovative programs in under enrolled schools and creating demand for UMC families to choose those schools over their IB. Not perfect but it’s better than current system where it’s your IB or a totally random lottery chance.

[Anonymous]

Good, just keep those expectations in check. Don’t expect the administration to communicate transparently or honestly. If you can handle the way the current White House communicates, you’ll be set.

Don’t expect to have access to DCI, which is what motivates many long tine families to stay. Have an escape valve and middle school back up.

Understand the administration will be highly antagonistic toward the teachers that are working so hard to educate your kid.

Just keep telling yourself... but SPANISH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I could afford WIS or another private school, I wouldn't be attending any number of public schools in DC. I would expect that private versus public charter would be a night and day experience.

I know, right? I hope that your $40,000 per year buys something. But I'm not sure I'd be attending because I also have a strong desire to have my kids around normal people (ie, MC and low SES as opposed to only those who can afford that price tag). I think that's worth a few warts. I do not, and could not imagine expecting some kind of rarified private school out of my charter!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are there any charter schools, especially at the elementary level, that are attended primarily by students with strong inbound schools/feeder paths? I don’t think so. The charter system exists in part to give parents in low performing schools an out. I’d much prefer magnet programs, putting interesting and innovative programs in under enrolled schools and creating demand for UMC families to choose those schools over their IB. Not perfect but it’s better than current system where it’s your IB or a totally random lottery chance.

Latin. BASIS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good, just keep those expectations in check. Don’t expect the administration to communicate transparently or honestly. If you can handle the way the current White House communicates, you’ll be set.

Don’t expect to have access to DCI, which is what motivates many long tine families to stay. Have an escape valve and middle school back up.

Understand the administration will be highly antagonistic toward the teachers that are working so hard to educate your kid.

Just keep telling yourself... but SPANISH.

Your assumption that current families/those who are the wait list are operating with rose colored glasses in terms of MV is absurd. We're weighing positives versus negatives like any other informed parent, probably every year we re-enroll or choose not to. If you/other long-term parents have this much anger with MV, why did you stay this long? I don't get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good, just keep those expectations in check. Don’t expect the administration to communicate transparently or honestly. If you can handle the way the current White House communicates, you’ll be set.

Don’t expect to have access to DCI, which is what motivates many long tine families to stay. Have an escape valve and middle school back up.

Understand the administration will be highly antagonistic toward the teachers that are working so hard to educate your kid.

Just keep telling yourself... but SPANISH.

Your assumption that current families/those who are the wait list are operating with rose colored glasses in terms of MV is absurd. We're weighing positives versus negatives like any other informed parent, probably every year we re-enroll or choose not to. If you/other long-term parents have this much anger with MV, why did you stay this long? I don't get it.

I think a lot of parents need to work a little harder to figure out if MV is better than their neighborhood public school... Even those middling DCPS schools right near the profit MV campus have stronger academics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We're moving to our inbound school next fall from MV. Most parents don't recognize the challenges at MV until they are several years in. By then, your kid typically has a nice groups of friends, and you have to weigh upsetting the routine against what for many people isn't a strong inbound option. So many play the lottery for other options. Some win, others don't.

We waited until my older child finished 5th grade and are moving the younger one. But we are one of the rare families who have a good inbound option. Think about it. You don't see families from Murch or Janney or Key at MV. It has,for better or worse, become a viable option for those who have failing neighborhood schools. And by that measure, depending on your opinion of charters, it serves a valuable purpose and has built great demand. But it isn't a "free version of WIS" or anything those WOTP would consider strong. We know families who have moved from MV to WIS, and it is like night and day.

If MV is the best option in your consideration set, go for it. Just have eyes open and know if will be a lot of work and frustration for you and your kid.

Oh come on. No one is comparing MV to WIS or expecting to get the same services like WIS. In fact, it’s not a comparable comparison. No one is expecting the same education at MV than WIS. WIS has been around much longer, costs 25-42k a year, selectively picks the students who attend (i.e UMC, UC families who can afford it), has much more resources, etc...

But for no cost, good PARCC, and Spanish immersion, we will definately take it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good, just keep those expectations in check. Don’t expect the administration to communicate transparently or honestly. If you can handle the way the current White House communicates, you’ll be set.

Don’t expect to have access to DCI, which is what motivates many long tine families to stay. Have an escape valve and middle school back up.

Understand the administration will be highly antagonistic toward the teachers that are working so hard to educate your kid.

Just keep telling yourself... but SPANISH.

Your assumption that current families/those who are the wait list are operating with rose colored glasses in terms of MV is absurd. We're weighing positives versus negatives like any other informed parent, probably every year we re-enroll or choose not to. If you/other long-term parents have this much anger with MV, why did you stay this long? I don't get it.

I think a lot of parents need to work a little harder to figure out if MV is better than their neighborhood public school... Even those middling DCPS schools right near the profit MV campus have stronger academics.

The majority of families interested in MV is because of language immersion, specifically Spanish. I don’t understand why that is not obvious when the whole curriculum is based on it.

But sure, throw out the #1 reason for families interest in the school and tell us the many DCPS elementary schools close to MV’s campus that has >45% of students scoring 4 on PARCC in both ELA and math and >65% students scoring 3 in both ELA and math. Granted PARCC is not the be all and end all but good objective data to start.

[Anonymous]

Goodness, all the MV disillusionment... I really want to try to find happy families there as we're being told we'll definitely clear with MV8 waitlist. It's our only bilingual option (PK3) bit really don't know how to feel based at least at what I read here.

[Anonymous]

Don't listen to unhappy parents then. I get it. We are just whiny, but you know better.

But you'd be smart to listen to the unhappy teachers. They are the ones in the classroom with your kids every day and they don't believe they have a voice in how kids are educated and they don't think the administration treats them fairly. Do you think their expectations are too high also?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Goodness, all the MV disillusionment... I really want to try to find happy families there as we're being told we'll definitely clear with MV8 waitlist. It's our only bilingual option (PK3) bit really don't know how to feel based at least at what I read here.

This is our 2nd year at P St and we are happy for the most part. Administration is disorganized and isn’t great at communication but it hasn’t had a detrimental impact on our experience. The Unionization effort has created some tension but we appreciate that the teachers are doing what they think is best to make the school better for the years to come.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good, just keep those expectations in check. Don’t expect the administration to communicate transparently or honestly. If you can handle the way the current White House communicates, you’ll be set.

Don’t expect to have access to DCI, which is what motivates many long tine families to stay. Have an escape valve and middle school back up.

Understand the administration will be highly antagonistic toward the teachers that are working so hard to educate your kid.

Just keep telling yourself... but SPANISH.

Your assumption that current families/those who are the wait list are operating with rose colored glasses in terms of MV is absurd. We're weighing positives versus negatives like any other informed parent, probably every year we re-enroll or choose not to. If you/other long-term parents have this much anger with MV, why did you stay this long? I don't get it.

I think a lot of parents need to work a little harder to figure out if MV is better than their neighborhood public school... Even those middling DCPS schools right near the profit MV campus have stronger academics.

The majority of families interested in MV is because of language immersion, specifically Spanish. I don’t understand why that is not obvious when the whole curriculum is based on it.

But sure, throw out the #1 reason for families interest in the school and tell us the many DCPS elementary schools close to MV’s campus that has >45% of students scoring 4 on PARCC in both ELA and math and >65% students scoring 3 in both ELA and math. Granted PARCC is not the be all and end all but good objective data to start.

I am actually IB for a DCPS dual-language elementary and guess what, I can’t get in for pre-k. I’ve been waitlisted two years in a row. So there are probably some if not “a lot” of parents who are hoping for MV as an option.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Good, just keep those expectations in check. Don’t expect the administration to communicate transparently or honestly. If you can handle the way the current White House communicates, you’ll be set.

Don’t expect to have access to DCI, which is what motivates many long tine families to stay. Have an escape valve and middle school back up.

Understand the administration will be highly antagonistic toward the teachers that are working so hard to educate your kid.

Just keep telling yourself... but SPANISH.

Your assumption that current families/those who are the wait list are operating with rose colored glasses in terms of MV is absurd. We're weighing positives versus negatives like any other informed parent, probably every year we re-enroll or choose not to. If you/other long-term parents have this much anger with MV, why did you stay this long? I don't get it.

Exactly. Not to mention that there is probably a fair percentage of MV P St parents who signed the petition against opening 8th St and have resentment towards the 8th St campus. So I would take what some parents say on here with that in mind.

We know some of the issues with MV going on, and we are not wearing rose colored glasses either. There are problems at every school and none is perfect. But if my kid is thriving, learning Spanish, loves school, and are among a strong cohort of peers, then the other issues will be less important and tolerable.