MCPS Looking Into 'All-Gender' Bathrooms in Schools

[Anonymous]

The logic here is very clear:

should boys be allowed freely into girl's bathroom? no.
should girls be allowed freely into boy's bathroom? no.

So if we give transkids their bath room, should they be allowed into boy's or girl's bathroom? apparently no.

Is that going to work? Unlikely (think about the political implications of such "restrictions" against transkids).

So MCPS should either do nothing - just ask transkids to go to the proper bathroom according to their current registered gender; or to remove restrictions on all bathrooms.

Personablly I would prefer the former. But from MCPS point of view in avoiding lawsuits, they may choose the latter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Are you really that stupid? I am not ripping my underwear and pants off in public but I am trying to do damage control in the stall. Then I will have to emerge from said stall and dampen a paper towel with soap and water and go back into the stall to scrub my pants like crazy so the stain isn't so obvious to the public view. Then I will stuff my wet pants with tons of TP and paper towels so I can go out in public and hope to make it home to change.

Does it happen every time? No! But it happens. Imagine an inexperienced teen girl going through that in front of boys? If you don't get it, you don't have a heart.

And guess what my hands will have blood on them from said damage control. And guess what sink I have to use? The public one everyone uses! Or would you prefer I don't use the sink and just go around with my bloody hands touching everything in sight? Would that be better for you? I thought sinks were for cleaning and washing! My bad!!!

There, does the play by play satisfy you?

It sounds to me like you're doing everything in the stall except getting paper towels and washing your hands. I don't usually think of either of those things as private activities.

So girls are supposed to emerge from stalls with blood on their hands and on their pants in full few of boys and their peers as they go to the sink to get supplies to further clean themselves up in the stall? Got it! Yep, no hatred or accomadations for young girls here! Suck it up girls, no one in MCPS cares about your feelings, your mental health or privacy because there might MIGHT be a cross gender in your school. They have Carte blanche on feelings and rights!

Why do you have such low expectations for boys? I'm willing to bet that boys in MS/HS are more compassionate then many girls. Give them a chance. I'm sure they'd handle the situation at least as well as the girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The logic here is very clear:

should boys be allowed freely into girl's bathroom? no.
should girls be allowed freely into boy's bathroom? no.

So if we give transkids their bath room, should they be allowed into boy's or girl's bathroom? apparently no.

Is that going to work? Unlikely (think about the political implications of such "restrictions" against transkids).

So MCPS should either do nothing - just ask transkids to go to the proper bathroom according to their current registered gender; or to remove restrictions on all bathrooms.

Personablly I would prefer the former. But from MCPS point of view in avoiding lawsuits, they may choose the latter.

And, frankly, kids these days are much more mature about these types of things. They will handle it MUCH MUCH better than the parents.

It won't be a big deal in the end. A lot of drama for nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:


Why do you have such low expectations for boys? I'm willing to bet that boys in MS/HS are more compassionate then many girls. Give them a chance. I'm sure they'd handle the situation at least as well as the girls.

Why do we want to spend money rebuilding the bathrooms in schools just to give the boys a chance to test out the new unisex bathrooms?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


Why do you have such low expectations for boys? I'm willing to bet that boys in MS/HS are more compassionate then many girls. Give them a chance. I'm sure they'd handle the situation at least as well as the girls.

Why do we want to spend money rebuilding the bathrooms in schools just to give the boys a chance to test out the new unisex bathrooms?

What do you mean "just to give boys the chance"? Why do you think that is the goal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

BS. How us this fair to young menstruating girls already embarrassed of their changing bodies? How is exposing them to boys the right thing to do? There are thousands more girls than trans kids but you don't care about trampling on the girl's rights! Women, wake up!!!!

How would this expose girls to boys? Because they'd be using the same sink?

Are you really that stupid? Maybe you are a man so I'll break it down for you
I come from a long line of heavy bleeders. We go through multiple pads tampons in just one day. Sometimes we can just sit on a toilet while clots and blood gushes out. We are genetically built this way. Many times we bleed through our clothes and need a safe private sink to pull down our pants and try to clean up the blood so it is not so obvious when we walk out of the bathroom.

Where are my daighters rights as a new woman to be able to learn to care for herself? Where are my daughter's rights to do the same at her school in a safe environment? How is she going to do this surrounded by boys? She won't. She will be anxious scared and mortified. But to all of you, the girls rights don't matter. We have to spend millions and pander to a handful of trans kids who are welcome to use our bathroom any time they need it.

+1.

I hope this is a wake-up call to women and to parents of girls.

Omg. Who are you hysterical cows?!

Hopefully your daughters don’t procreate. No need to keep this cesspool of genetic defects.

1) calling women "cow

2) calling women "hysertical"

3) shaming our daughters, their ability to procreate and their Gene's

All because we have an opinion on our rights and our bodies! As women! The true hatred on this thread coming out for all to see! How dare us women open our mouth and have an opinion!

Finally an honest sexist misonginst who openly showcases his/her/their (pick your pronoun) hatred of women! Cause that is what is going on here. Women are being shut down. And if you don't comply with the trans liberal agenda you get called names and your daughter too.

Your reaction over this issue tells us everything we need to know about you.

Hysterical
Cow

GFY and your unwarranted drama.

DP

Wow. This PP is so woke, she refers to women who disagree with him/her as ‘hysterical cows’. Classy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

BS. How us this fair to young menstruating girls already embarrassed of their changing bodies? How is exposing them to boys the right thing to do? There are thousands more girls than trans kids but you don't care about trampling on the girl's rights! Women, wake up!!!!

How would this expose girls to boys? Because they'd be using the same sink?

Are you really that stupid? Maybe you are a man so I'll break it down for you
I come from a long line of heavy bleeders. We go through multiple pads tampons in just one day. Sometimes we can just sit on a toilet while clots and blood gushes out. We are genetically built this way. Many times we bleed through our clothes and need a safe private sink to pull down our pants and try to clean up the blood so it is not so obvious when we walk out of the bathroom.

Where are my daighters rights as a new woman to be able to learn to care for herself? Where are my daughter's rights to do the same at her school in a safe environment? How is she going to do this surrounded by boys? She won't. She will be anxious scared and mortified. But to all of you, the girls rights don't matter. We have to spend millions and pander to a handful of trans kids who are welcome to use our bathroom any time they need it.

+1.

I hope this is a wake-up call to women and to parents of girls.

Omg. Who are you hysterical cows?!

Hopefully your daughters don’t procreate. No need to keep this cesspool of genetic defects.

1) calling women "cow

2) calling women "hysertical"

3) shaming our daughters, their ability to procreate and their Gene's

All because we have an opinion on our rights and our bodies! As women! The true hatred on this thread coming out for all to see! How dare us women open our mouth and have an opinion!

Finally an honest sexist misonginst who openly showcases his/her/their (pick your pronoun) hatred of women! Cause that is what is going on here. Women are being shut down. And if you don't comply with the trans liberal agenda you get called names and your daughter too.

Your reaction over this issue tells us everything we need to know about you.

Hysterical
Cow

GFY and your unwarranted drama.

DP

Wow. This PP is so woke, she refers to women who disagree with him/her as ‘hysterical cows’. Classy.

Only when they act like hysterical cows.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The logic here is very clear:

should boys be allowed freely into girl's bathroom? no.
should girls be allowed freely into boy's bathroom? no.

So if we give transkids their bath room, should they be allowed into boy's or girl's bathroom? apparently no.

Is that going to work? Unlikely (think about the political implications of such "restrictions" against transkids).

So MCPS should either do nothing - just ask transkids to go to the proper bathroom according to their current registered gender; or to remove restrictions on all bathrooms.

Personablly I would prefer the former. But from MCPS point of view in avoiding lawsuits, they may choose the latter.

Well, it’s not really just all or nothing. Trans kids can have access to their own bathroom. Most parents don’t have issue with that.

That’s much easier than redoing all the bathrooms in every school as co-ED restrooms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

So girls are supposed to emerge from stalls with blood on their hands and on their pants in full few of boys and their peers as they go to the sink to get supplies to further clean themselves up in the stall? Got it! Yep, no hatred or accomadations for young girls here! Suck it up girls, no one in MCPS cares about your feelings, your mental health or privacy because there might MIGHT be a cross gender in your school. They have Carte blanche on feelings and rights!

That's one reason why there's toilet paper in the stalls?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


Why do you have such low expectations for boys? I'm willing to bet that boys in MS/HS are more compassionate then many girls. Give them a chance. I'm sure they'd handle the situation at least as well as the girls.

Why do we want to spend money rebuilding the bathrooms in schools just to give the boys a chance to test out the new unisex bathrooms?

What do you mean "just to give boys the chance"? Why do you think that is the goal?

I was only suggesting that cannot be a valid goal.

If we don't have another valid goal, why do it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The logic here is very clear:

should boys be allowed freely into girl's bathroom? no.
should girls be allowed freely into boy's bathroom? no.

So if we give transkids their bath room, should they be allowed into boy's or girl's bathroom? apparently no.

Is that going to work? Unlikely (think about the political implications of such "restrictions" against transkids).

So MCPS should either do nothing - just ask transkids to go to the proper bathroom according to their current registered gender; or to remove restrictions on all bathrooms.

Personablly I would prefer the former. But from MCPS point of view in avoiding lawsuits, they may choose the latter.

Well, it’s not really just all or nothing. Trans kids can have access to their own bathroom. Most parents don’t have issue with that.

That’s much easier than redoing all the bathrooms in every school as co-ED restrooms.

That is not the point. The point is once they have their own bathrooms, whether the school would still allow transkids to go to boy's or girl's bathrooms?

If yes, why do they have such a freedom that our boys or girls don't? And why should we allow someone with a different "gender selection" to be in our boys' or girls' bathrooms?
If no, wait for their parents to sue...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I was only suggesting that cannot be a valid goal.

If we don't have another valid goal, why do it?

Montgomery County Public Schools, Maryland’s largest school system, plans to look into the cost of of putting more “all-gender” bathrooms in schools.

“We’ll take a look at retrofit as well as construction,” Montgomery County Public Schools CEO Andrew Zuckerman told school board members at a meeting last week.

Zuckerman brought up the issue after a Bethesda mother of two high school children asked the board to consider it.

She said it should be considered for children who are uncomfortable about using gender-specific restrooms.

“This means no girls’ rooms and no boys’ rooms — just restrooms,” she said.

“Kids are afraid to use the bathrooms because of bullying. This (all-gender bathrooms) is the answer for nonconforming kids and all kids who do not use the bathroom during the school day.”

The all-gender bathrooms being advocated would include private stalls.

“This is not a new concept,” she said. “We all have this in our own homes and many restaurants have this too.”

Zuckerman said he would soon be able to provide more information about the potential cost and logistics of adding more all-gender bathrooms to schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

That is not the point. The point is once they have their own bathrooms, whether the school would still allow transkids to go to boy's or girl's bathrooms?

If yes, why do they have such a freedom that our boys or girls don't? And why should we allow someone with a different "gender selection" to be in our boys' or girls' bathrooms?
If no, wait for their parents to sue...

It's not "our boys or girls", on the one hand, and "their transkids", on the other. Some of "our boys or girls" are trans.

[Anonymous]

I Unisex bathroom at a MS and HS?? Cmon guys, please. You know how teenagers are. Even if you raised a perfect little angel, it doesn't mean others have. Do you need examples? WHy can't we just leave the restrooms alone and if need be, build a bathroom near the school office, a unisex, single, small, Starbucks style bathroom with a toilet and sink inside?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That is not the point. The point is once they have their own bathrooms, whether the school would still allow transkids to go to boy's or girl's bathrooms?

If yes, why do they have such a freedom that our boys or girls don't? And why should we allow someone with a different "gender selection" to be in our boys' or girls' bathrooms?
If no, wait for their parents to sue...

It's not "our boys or girls", on the one hand, and "their transkids", on the other. Some of "our boys or girls" are trans.

You can use terms like "our boys, our girls, our transkids" too. My questions do not depend on the terminology and they are still valid, right?