Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

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I find it funny that so many people on this site denigrate Northwest as if it is ganglandia

Well, there are active gangs in some of the areas that feed NW and kids who drop out of NW to join gangs. I'm not saying that QO is academically a better or worse school than NW but the FARMS kids who go to QO and primarily come from Brown Station have not been associated with or involved in gang activity. You can't say the same for NW.

Gangs are real and they are scary. GHS, Wheaton and a few others have larger problems with active gangs. There is a Montgomery County gang task force that works with MCPS and focuses on particular schools so no the gang issue is not universal across MCPS.

I'm sure you have facts (references, sources) to back up the statement above....right?

Well, Cinnamon woods feeds into NW and there have been quite a few shootings there...

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/21-year-old-man-in-serious-condition-after-gunfire-erupts-at-vigil-for-shooting-victim

Also there was a body found at Black Rock Mill... https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Police-Seek-Public-Help-After-Human-Remains-Found-in-a-Germantown-Park-485948991.html

It sure is great to know that Germantown is the graveyard for MS-13 victims. Don't let your kids wander too deep into the woods!

And secret tunnels were dug in Bethesda!

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/courts/neighbors-of-bethesda-home-with-tunnels-underneath-worry-about-possible-hazards/

Don't let your kids visit the neighbors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I find it funny that so many people on this site denigrate Northwest as if it is ganglandia

Well, there are active gangs in some of the areas that feed NW and kids who drop out of NW to join gangs. I'm not saying that QO is academically a better or worse school than NW but the FARMS kids who go to QO and primarily come from Brown Station have not been associated with or involved in gang activity. You can't say the same for NW.

Gangs are real and they are scary. GHS, Wheaton and a few others have larger problems with active gangs. There is a Montgomery County gang task force that works with MCPS and focuses on particular schools so no the gang issue is not universal across MCPS.

I'm sure you have facts (references, sources) to back up the statement above....right?

Well, Cinnamon woods feeds into NW and there have been quite a few shootings there...

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/21-year-old-man-in-serious-condition-after-gunfire-erupts-at-vigil-for-shooting-victim

Also there was a body found at Black Rock Mill... https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Police-Seek-Public-Help-After-Human-Remains-Found-in-a-Germantown-Park-485948991.html

It sure is great to know that Germantown is the graveyard for MS-13 victims. Don't let your kids wander too deep into the woods!

That's not how it works

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I find it funny that so many people on this site denigrate Northwest as if it is ganglandia

Well, there are active gangs in some of the areas that feed NW and kids who drop out of NW to join gangs. I'm not saying that QO is academically a better or worse school than NW but the FARMS kids who go to QO and primarily come from Brown Station have not been associated with or involved in gang activity. You can't say the same for NW.

Gangs are real and they are scary. GHS, Wheaton and a few others have larger problems with active gangs. There is a Montgomery County gang task force that works with MCPS and focuses on particular schools so no the gang issue is not universal across MCPS.

I'm sure you have facts (references, sources) to back up the statement above....right?

Well, Cinnamon woods feeds into NW and there have been quite a few shootings there...

http://www.fox5dc.com/news/local-news/21-year-old-man-in-serious-condition-after-gunfire-erupts-at-vigil-for-shooting-victim

Also there was a body found at Black Rock Mill... https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Police-Seek-Public-Help-After-Human-Remains-Found-in-a-Germantown-Park-485948991.html

It sure is great to know that Germantown is the graveyard for MS-13 victims. Don't let your kids wander too deep into the woods!

And secret tunnels were dug in Bethesda!

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-beat/courts/neighbors-of-bethesda-home-with-tunnels-underneath-worry-about-possible-hazards/

Don't let your kids visit the neighbors.

totally off topic, but that is some crazy stuff:

Daniel Beckwitt, the 27-year-old millionaire who allegedly hired Khafra to help him dig the tunnels under his father’s home out of fear of a North Korean attack,

He must've been afraid that Trump was about to start WWIII with N. Korea or something.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Ws (excluding WJ) are best, followed by BCC. Fin.

in your head yes. By objective metrics such as Niche rankings or Great Schools, you're wrong.

Incorrect. Do your research.

[Anonymous]

Now to put an end to this thread, here is the real fact ( academically, competitions, on the field performances etc..). There's :

Blair, in an universe by itself . Then
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The rest of MCPS.

Now we can close this thread. Turn the lights off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I have a kid at Wheaton and we are not low income. And honestly it is (so far) great.

Didn't wheaton get the former science coach from Blair, and they recently won some science competition. Most of the HSs seem to have some interesting programs, so if your child is into it, I think they can do well in most of the HS. However, I do think it's important for a student to have a peer cohort.

In which high schools do academically-motivated students not have a peer cohort, and how do you know?

In schools that have a lower % of high achieving students, it's much harder to find a peer cohort that you can also be friends with. The greater the diversity, the greater chance most kids have in finding their peer group.

I don't live in a W cluster. We chose RM for its diversity. I'm sure most schools have varying amounts of high achieving students, but when the numbers dwindle, it's just harder to find.

My kid is at Einstein, and while her friends are not "obsessed" about getting into high-recognition college, they are bright students. They don't even know the students who end up dropping out, so I'm not sure how the drop-out rate affects them.

[Anonymous]

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W schools are just segregated. Their test averages aren't lowered by the poverty that's present elsewhere. There's nothing special about this. It doesn't mean that a high-performed wouldn't find similar opportunities or a strong cohort at any other MCPS school. Further, they might develop a stronger empathy and compassion for others which isn't happening at places like Churchill where bullying and racism are rampant.

I agree and disagree with parts of this. The W schools are segregated and primarily UMC to wealthy which correlates in MD to race. Within the W schools though wealthy Africans, AA and hispanics do quite well. There simply are not enough wealthy AA and Hispanic residents in Montgomery County using the public schools. The DCC and other non-W schools are segregated to just in a different way. The segregation occurs within the school which is sad.

I have no experience with Churchill but sadly these racial incidents are happening everywhere including schools like those in the DCC. I suspect the PP is just one of the W haters so loves pushing any negative thing that happens at one. Racism in the form of stereotypes is in some ways more prevalent in DCC schools where so many of the POC are also lower income. At a school like WJ where there is more SES homogeny, kids see that AA and hispanic students as well as middle eastern, African and asian students do just as well as white students. In some ways, these kids will come out with a healthier view that all people are equal than the kids who were exposed daily to segregation within their own school.

I agree that a top high performing kid can do well anywhere but far more kids exist right below this bar. We all want to think that our child is gifted or a genius but many are simply slightly above average with potential. They are impressionable and could be top students with high expectations and peer influences but they can also go the other direction and just skate by having fun. This type of kids performs much better surrounded by a high performing cohort with fewer options find peers who are not interested in school.

Bull. If you want to pretend to live in some post-racial utopia, know that's not the real world. Of course there are high-achieving people from all races and ethnicities, but there is also a LONG history in this country (and, really, in the world) of minorities being oppressed, murdered, discriminated against, etc. You don't get to stick your head in the sand and claim you're better than others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Now to put an end to this thread, here is the real fact ( academically, competitions, on the field performances etc..). There's :

Blair, in an universe by itself . Then
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The rest of MCPS.


Now if you could convince anyone who didn’t go there of that you might be on to something. The W’s snicker in your direction

Now we can close this thread. Turn the lights off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s funny bc svhs and NW are basically within a mile of each other on 118 (ish) yet 3 greatschool SES levels apart.

SO FAR YET SO CLOSE!

Northwest gets the kids from Darnestown and Boyds, the nicer part of Germantown. SVHS pulls from the rough neighborhoods.

I live in the "nicer" part of Germantown and if we stay where we are (we are renting), our kids will attend Northwest. From what I can tell, it is a good school. We would like to stay in the area and specifically in our current neighborhood (we are buying next year), but we are also considering neighborhoods zoned for Clarksburg and Quince Orchard.

I find it funny that so many people on this site denigrate Northwest as if it is ganglandia. Yet I see so many accolades for QO. When you look at the demographics of the school, the primary difference is that QO has a higher percentage of white students. The FARMS percentage for these schools are not far apart:

Quince Orchard: 21.3%
Northwest: 22.5%

Also, Northwest had a higher average for SAT scores for the 2017-2018 school year, 1145 to QO's 1134.

I think Seneca Valley has the potential to be a great school. Yes, it currently pulls from areas in Germantown that are densely populated (lots of apartments), but the upcoming boundary study will hopefully create 3 wonderful schools between Clarksburg and Germantown.

Here are the "At A Glance" Reports for both schools if you want to look for yourself:
Northwest: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04246.pdf
Quince Orchard: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04125.pdf

Very different schools... the main difference is the overall vibes of the school. QO is run by Kentlands, Lakelands, and Darnestown kids. NW is run by the citizens of Cinnamon woods. NW has robberies in the parking lot of their own school, this doesn't happen at QO and a riot would start if it did. Look similar on paper but completely different schools in reality. Have you seen the student bodies? NW is the next best thing if you can't afford the QO or Wootton area but definitely a level down for schools.

most of darnestown goes to NW... only a portion goes to QO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s funny bc svhs and NW are basically within a mile of each other on 118 (ish) yet 3 greatschool SES levels apart.

SO FAR YET SO CLOSE!

Northwest gets the kids from Darnestown and Boyds, the nicer part of Germantown. SVHS pulls from the rough neighborhoods.

I live in the "nicer" part of Germantown and if we stay where we are (we are renting), our kids will attend Northwest. From what I can tell, it is a good school. We would like to stay in the area and specifically in our current neighborhood (we are buying next year), but we are also considering neighborhoods zoned for Clarksburg and Quince Orchard.

I find it funny that so many people on this site denigrate Northwest as if it is ganglandia. Yet I see so many accolades for QO. When you look at the demographics of the school, the primary difference is that QO has a higher percentage of white students. The FARMS percentage for these schools are not far apart:

Quince Orchard: 21.3%
Northwest: 22.5%

Also, Northwest had a higher average for SAT scores for the 2017-2018 school year, 1145 to QO's 1134.

I think Seneca Valley has the potential to be a great school. Yes, it currently pulls from areas in Germantown that are densely populated (lots of apartments), but the upcoming boundary study will hopefully create 3 wonderful schools between Clarksburg and Germantown.

Here are the "At A Glance" Reports for both schools if you want to look for yourself:
Northwest: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04246.pdf
Quince Orchard: https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/regulatoryaccountability/glance/currentyear/schools/04125.pdf

Very different schools... the main difference is the overall vibes of the school. QO is run by Kentlands, Lakelands, and Darnestown kids. NW is run by the citizens of Cinnamon woods. NW has robberies in the parking lot of their own school, this doesn't happen at QO and a riot would start if it did. Look similar on paper but completely different schools in reality. Have you seen the student bodies? NW is the next best thing if you can't afford the QO or Wootton area but definitely a level down for schools.

most of darnestown goes to NW... only a portion goes to QO

Most darnestown kids districted for NW go private or COSA to QO

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Ws (excluding WJ) are best, followed by BCC. Fin.

in your head yes. By objective metrics such as Niche rankings or Great Schools, you're wrong.

Incorrect. Do your research.

Why don't you show your metrics then. Because your opinion counts for zilch.

[Anonymous]

We should build low income/high density homes in all nice neighborhoods starting with historic TP and woodside. When those residents welcome them in with open arms then we can talk about moving west.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We should build low income/high density homes in all nice neighborhoods starting with historic TP and woodside. When those residents welcome them in with open arms then we can talk about moving west.

You're implying NIMBYism, but here's the thing: the TPES and Woodlin zones do have significant numbers of lower-income residents already; in fact they're in the sweet spot of 20-30% FARMS we read about so often on DCUM. It's the schools with <10% FARMS we should talk about.

[Anonymous]

Blair is superior, people in Ws wish they knew before they moved

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, I have a kid at Wheaton and we are not low income. And honestly it is (so far) great.

Didn't wheaton get the former science coach from Blair, and they recently won some science competition. Most of the HSs seem to have some interesting programs, so if your child is into it, I think they can do well in most of the HS. However, I do think it's important for a student to have a peer cohort.

In which high schools do academically-motivated students not have a peer cohort, and how do you know?

In schools that have a lower % of high achieving students, it's much harder to find a peer cohort that you can also be friends with. The greater the diversity, the greater chance most kids have in finding their peer group.

I don't live in a W cluster. We chose RM for its diversity. I'm sure most schools have varying amounts of high achieving students, but when the numbers dwindle, it's just harder to find.

My kid is at Einstein, and while her friends are not "obsessed" about getting into high-recognition college, they are bright students. They don't even know the students who end up dropping out, so I'm not sure how the drop-out rate affects them.

yes, we know einstein in segregated: honors kids, remedial kids, drop outs. they all never cross paths.