Best elementary school for a STEM gifted child?

[Anonymous]

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Blair is head and shoulders over any MCPS high-school academically.

Blair MAGNET - Yes.

Blair NON-MAGNET cohort - questionable. Otherwise, those flinging statistics to make this appear "truthy" would be honest and not include the MAGNET cohort students in their statistics. For example, see the earlier posts that compare SAT scores of white students: this is bogus since the mean score for white students in Blair includes all white students in Blair (both MAGNET and NONMAGNET).

I wish posters defending Blair would stop being disingenuous and compare Blair NONMAGNET cohort to other schools. They are starting to remind me of climate change deniers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Blair is head and shoulders over any MCPS high-school academically.

Blair MAGNET - Yes.

Blair NON-MAGNET cohort - questionable. Otherwise, those flinging statistics to make this appear "truthy" would be honest and not include the MAGNET cohort students in their statistics. For example, see the earlier posts that compare SAT scores of white students: this is bogus since the mean score for white students in Blair includes all white students in Blair (both MAGNET and NONMAGNET).

I wish posters defending Blair would stop being disingenuous and compare Blair NONMAGNET cohort to other schools. They are starting to remind me of climate change deniers.

They are worse than that.
At least you need some expertise in the field to truly understand the "climate change" pattern.
You just need common sense to understand the non-magnet part of Blair is not as good as the Ws - I am not saying it is terrible - just not that great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm looking at the report the earlier poster linked that shows SAT averages from a couple of years back and comparing similarly large cohorts the W's with Blair, and the W's just aren't as competitive as they were in years past despite their segregation.

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wooton 1262
Poolesville 1259
Churchill 1257

https://montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

Thanks for providing hard data. Much more helpful than these wacky anecdotes.

Yes, providing a more thoughtful analysis based on verifiable data that compares how similar economic cohorts compare at these schools is eye-opening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow!
W parents are going crazy. They don't know what to do. Before they could only point at the SAT scores to show that they are better than Blair. Now that Blair scores have shoot up, they are sh$##ing on themselves now that their only advantage has disappeared.

NMSF ? Nope
Presidential ? Nope
Science bowls ? Nope
Siemens ? Nope
Science olympiads ? Nope
Math olympiads ? Nope
Intel/Regeneron scholars ? Hell no

What are they good at actually ? ??

How many of these does Blair have, outside of the magnet program?

Always want to steal the glory from the magnet program?

Magnet program is great, one of the best in the nation. The rest of Blair is not.

Most of the magnet families do not live in Blair area. Blair non-magnet part is simply not appealing. In real life most people know this.

It's one Blair. There's no "rest of Blair ".
They don't differentiate between magnet and non-magnet when doing rankings, gradings or scorings.
It's Blair wins

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow!
W parents are going crazy. They don't know what to do. Before they could only point at the SAT scores to show that they are better than Blair. Now that Blair scores have shoot up, they are sh$##ing on themselves now that their only advantage has disappeared.

NMSF ? Nope
Presidential ? Nope
Science bowls ? Nope
Siemens ? Nope
Science olympiads ? Nope
Math olympiads ? Nope
Intel/Regeneron scholars ? Hell no

What are they good at actually ? ??

Oh, oh, oh! I know. Call on me! Call on me!

Casual racism and classism.

Sad but true

I wonder if Blair was so great why it is the poor people who go there? If the W parents wanted to go there they would bid up Blair houses and price out all the creepy residents. But that doesn’t happen. Hummmm I wonder why ??? Striver

This post right here is the perfect example of what the W schools are good at...Racism and classism
Couldn't make this up

Whatever that post is, it does not change the fact that Blair is not as good a HS as the Ws.

It is as simple as that.

LOL
Blair is way better than the W's.
Blair has more of the above than all the W combined.
It's as simple as that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow!
W parents are going crazy. They don't know what to do. Before they could only point at the SAT scores to show that they are better than Blair. Now that Blair scores have shoot up, they are sh$##ing on themselves now that their only advantage has disappeared.

NMSF ? Nope
Presidential ? Nope
Science bowls ? Nope
Siemens ? Nope
Science olympiads ? Nope
Math olympiads ? Nope
Intel/Regeneron scholars ? Hell no

What are they good at actually ? ??

Oh, oh, oh! I know. Call on me! Call on me!

Casual racism and classism.

Sad but true

I wonder if Blair was so great why it is the poor people who go there? If the W parents wanted to go there they would bid up Blair houses and price out all the creepy residents. But that doesn’t happen. Hummmm I wonder why ??? Striver

This post right here is the perfect example of what the W schools are good at...Racism and classism
Couldn't make this up

Whatever that post is, it does not change the fact that Blair is not as good a HS as the Ws.

It is as simple as that.

LOL
Blair is way better than the W's.
Blair has more of the above than all the W combined.
It's as simple as that.

Looking at hard facts it sure looks that way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow!
W parents are going crazy. They don't know what to do. Before they could only point at the SAT scores to show that they are better than Blair. Now that Blair scores have shoot up, they are sh$##ing on themselves now that their only advantage has disappeared.

NMSF ? Nope
Presidential ? Nope
Science bowls ? Nope
Siemens ? Nope
Science olympiads ? Nope
Math olympiads ? Nope
Intel/Regeneron scholars ? Hell no

What are they good at actually ? ??

How many of these does Blair have, outside of the magnet program?

Always want to steal the glory from the magnet program?

Magnet program is great, one of the best in the nation. The rest of Blair is not.

Most of the magnet families do not live in Blair area. Blair non-magnet part is simply not appealing. In real life most people know this.

It's one Blair. There's no "rest of Blair ".
They don't differentiate between magnet and non-magnet when doing rankings, gradings or scorings.
It's Blair wins

Who are "they"?
You?

We are talking about finding the ES that feeds into certain HS eventually.
That process, does differentiate between the two parts - you don't get into the magnet part by just living there.

If you want to discuss school rankings, that is not what this thread is about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow!
W parents are going crazy. They don't know what to do. Before they could only point at the SAT scores to show that they are better than Blair. Now that Blair scores have shoot up, they are sh$##ing on themselves now that their only advantage has disappeared.

NMSF ? Nope
Presidential ? Nope
Science bowls ? Nope
Siemens ? Nope
Science olympiads ? Nope
Math olympiads ? Nope
Intel/Regeneron scholars ? Hell no

What are they good at actually ? ??

Oh, oh, oh! I know. Call on me! Call on me!

Casual racism and classism.

Sad but true

I wonder if Blair was so great why it is the poor people who go there? If the W parents wanted to go there they would bid up Blair houses and price out all the creepy residents. But that doesn’t happen. Hummmm I wonder why ??? Striver

This post right here is the perfect example of what the W schools are good at...Racism and classism
Couldn't make this up

Whatever that post is, it does not change the fact that Blair is not as good a HS as the Ws.

It is as simple as that.

LOL
Blair is way better than the W's.
Blair has more of the above than all the W combined.
It's as simple as that.

Looking at hard facts it sure looks that way.

Blair magnet has.

Not the rest of the Blair, which is what we are talking about.

If you want to talk about irrelevant issues, that is fine. I am happy to see you trying to create illusions to deceive yourself. Apparently the OP already made the right choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow!
W parents are going crazy. They don't know what to do. Before they could only point at the SAT scores to show that they are better than Blair. Now that Blair scores have shoot up, they are sh$##ing on themselves now that their only advantage has disappeared.

NMSF ? Nope
Presidential ? Nope
Science bowls ? Nope
Siemens ? Nope
Science olympiads ? Nope
Math olympiads ? Nope
Intel/Regeneron scholars ? Hell no

What are they good at actually ? ??

Oh, oh, oh! I know. Call on me! Call on me!

Casual racism and classism.

Sad but true

I wonder if Blair was so great why it is the poor people who go there? If the W parents wanted to go there they would bid up Blair houses and price out all the creepy residents. But that doesn’t happen. Hummmm I wonder why ??? Striver

This post right here is the perfect example of what the W schools are good at...Racism and classism
Couldn't make this up

Whatever that post is, it does not change the fact that Blair is not as good a HS as the Ws.

It is as simple as that.

LOL
Blair is way better than the W's.
Blair has more of the above than all the W combined.
It's as simple as that.

Looking at hard facts it sure looks that way.

So true, and that gonzo W troll probably burst a blood vessel when it was shown that similar SES non-magnet groups at Blair outperform their W counterparts school hands down. Not to mention the school's overall average for 2018 was about 50 points higher than any W.

SATs used to be this was all W parents could talk about. Now the shoes on the other foot there's the neverending array of excuses from them, but I think that's one of the hallmarks of privilege.

[Anonymous]

NP here.

I live in Bethesda, am on the PTA board of our elementary, and know that our school's overall test scores are lowered by the scores of the very large and varied ESOL community at our school. Yet these same students are quite good at math, and bring such cultural enrichment to our school, that it is completely worth it.

School scores do not reflect everything, good and bad, that goes on in a school.

I am perfectly happy putting my kids in a Bethesda cluster because I like the neighborhood. If you're happy at a Blair non-magnet, then wonderful! Win-win and no need to fight

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow!
W parents are going crazy. They don't know what to do. Before they could only point at the SAT scores to show that they are better than Blair. Now that Blair scores have shoot up, they are sh$##ing on themselves now that their only advantage has disappeared.

NMSF ? Nope
Presidential ? Nope
Science bowls ? Nope
Siemens ? Nope
Science olympiads ? Nope
Math olympiads ? Nope
Intel/Regeneron scholars ? Hell no

What are they good at actually ? ??

Oh, oh, oh! I know. Call on me! Call on me!

Casual racism and classism.

Sad but true

I wonder if Blair was so great why it is the poor people who go there? If the W parents wanted to go there they would bid up Blair houses and price out all the creepy residents. But that doesn’t happen. Hummmm I wonder why ??? Striver

This post right here is the perfect example of what the W schools are good at...Racism and classism
Couldn't make this up

Whatever that post is, it does not change the fact that Blair is not as good a HS as the Ws.

It is as simple as that.

LOL
Blair is way better than the W's.
Blair has more of the above than all the W combined.
It's as simple as that.

Looking at hard facts it sure looks that way.

So true, and that gonzo W troll probably burst a blood vessel when it was shown that similar SES non-magnet groups at Blair outperform their W counterparts school hands down. Not to mention the school's overall average for 2018 was about 50 points higher than any W.

SATs used to be this was all W parents could talk about. Now the shoes on the other foot there's the neverending array of excuses from them, but I think that's one of the hallmarks of privilege.

Just keep lying, we'll see where that leads you.


That adobe cloud document by the PP showing Blair doing 1316 in class 2018 does not count - it does not provide any 2018 average for any Ws. You compare the so called Blair 2018 SAT to what? to 2017 SAT of Ws from the MCPS website? Even if we trust the number from that report on adobe cloud, one can only say: Blair class 2018 is 50 pts higher than any Ws class 2017, and about 150 pts higher than Blair class 2017.

That really makes Blair great (as if it only consists on a "class 2018").

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow!
W parents are going crazy. They don't know what to do. Before they could only point at the SAT scores to show that they are better than Blair. Now that Blair scores have shoot up, they are sh$##ing on themselves now that their only advantage has disappeared.

NMSF ? Nope
Presidential ? Nope
Science bowls ? Nope
Siemens ? Nope
Science olympiads ? Nope
Math olympiads ? Nope
Intel/Regeneron scholars ? Hell no

What are they good at actually ? ??

How many of these does Blair have, outside of the magnet program?

Always want to steal the glory from the magnet program?

Magnet program is great, one of the best in the nation. The rest of Blair is not.

Most of the magnet families do not live in Blair area. Blair non-magnet part is simply not appealing. In real life most people know this.

It's one Blair. There's no "rest of Blair ".
They don't differentiate between magnet and non-magnet when doing rankings, gradings or scorings.
It's Blair wins

Who are "they"?
You?

We are talking about finding the ES that feeds into certain HS eventually.
That process, does differentiate between the two parts - you don't get into the magnet part by just living there.

If you want to discuss school rankings, that is not what this thread is about.

MCPS, USNews, GS , Niche, Intel, Regeneron, college board etc. . . they rank, grade, score Blair as a whole. They don't differentiate between the magnet and non-magnet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow!
W parents are going crazy. They don't know what to do. Before they could only point at the SAT scores to show that they are better than Blair. Now that Blair scores have shoot up, they are sh$##ing on themselves now that their only advantage has disappeared.

NMSF ? Nope
Presidential ? Nope
Science bowls ? Nope
Siemens ? Nope
Science olympiads ? Nope
Math olympiads ? Nope
Intel/Regeneron scholars ? Hell no

What are they good at actually ? ??

Oh, oh, oh! I know. Call on me! Call on me!

Casual racism and classism.

Sad but true

I wonder if Blair was so great why it is the poor people who go there? If the W parents wanted to go there they would bid up Blair houses and price out all the creepy residents. But that doesn’t happen. Hummmm I wonder why ??? Striver

This post right here is the perfect example of what the W schools are good at...Racism and classism
Couldn't make this up

Whatever that post is, it does not change the fact that Blair is not as good a HS as the Ws.

It is as simple as that.

LOL
Blair is way better than the W's.
Blair has more of the above than all the W combined.
It's as simple as that.

Looking at hard facts it sure looks that way.

Blair magnet has.

Not the rest of the Blair, which is what we are talking about.

If you want to talk about irrelevant issues, that is fine. I am happy to see you trying to create illusions to deceive yourself. Apparently the OP already made the right choice.

This thread is about STEM
Look at the title.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow!
W parents are going crazy. They don't know what to do. Before they could only point at the SAT scores to show that they are better than Blair. Now that Blair scores have shoot up, they are sh$##ing on themselves now that their only advantage has disappeared.

NMSF ? Nope
Presidential ? Nope
Science bowls ? Nope
Siemens ? Nope
Science olympiads ? Nope
Math olympiads ? Nope
Intel/Regeneron scholars ? Hell no

What are they good at actually ? ??

Oh, oh, oh! I know. Call on me! Call on me!

Casual racism and classism.

Sad but true

I wonder if Blair was so great why it is the poor people who go there? If the W parents wanted to go there they would bid up Blair houses and price out all the creepy residents. But that doesn’t happen. Hummmm I wonder why ??? Striver

This post right here is the perfect example of what the W schools are good at...Racism and classism
Couldn't make this up

Whatever that post is, it does not change the fact that Blair is not as good a HS as the Ws.

It is as simple as that.

LOL
Blair is way better than the W's.
Blair has more of the above than all the W combined.
It's as simple as that.

Looking at hard facts it sure looks that way.

Blair magnet has.

Not the rest of the Blair, which is what we are talking about.

If you want to talk about irrelevant issues, that is fine. I am happy to see you trying to create illusions to deceive yourself. Apparently the OP already made the right choice.

This thread is about STEM
Look at the title.

The STEM advantage Blair has over other HSs is because of the MAGNET!! which the OP's kids can not get in just by moving to that cluster. So, if the OP is confident that all her kids will get into the Blair magnet, it does not matter where she lives as long as she is downcounty; if she is not, she needs to compare the NONMAGNET cohort of Blair to other clusters. If anyone has any evidence the nonmagnet cohort is great for STEM, provide it; don't muck up the matters by pointing to the Magnet. We all agree that the magnet program is the best for STEM. The question is, if the OP's kids do not get into the magnet, then what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow!
W parents are going crazy. They don't know what to do. Before they could only point at the SAT scores to show that they are better than Blair. Now that Blair scores have shoot up, they are sh$##ing on themselves now that their only advantage has disappeared.

NMSF ? Nope
Presidential ? Nope
Science bowls ? Nope
Siemens ? Nope
Science olympiads ? Nope
Math olympiads ? Nope
Intel/Regeneron scholars ? Hell no

What are they good at actually ? ??

How many of these does Blair have, outside of the magnet program?

Always want to steal the glory from the magnet program?

Magnet program is great, one of the best in the nation. The rest of Blair is not.

Most of the magnet families do not live in Blair area. Blair non-magnet part is simply not appealing. In real life most people know this.

It's one Blair. There's no "rest of Blair ".
They don't differentiate between magnet and non-magnet when doing rankings, gradings or scorings.
It's Blair wins

Who are "they"?
You?

We are talking about finding the ES that feeds into certain HS eventually.
That process, does differentiate between the two parts - you don't get into the magnet part by just living there.

If you want to discuss school rankings, that is not what this thread is about.

MCPS, USNews, GS , Niche, Intel, Regeneron, college board etc. . . they rank, grade, score Blair as a whole. They don't differentiate between the magnet and non-magnet.

But that is not what we are talking about in this thread.

Can't you understand English?