RM Cluster Overcrowding?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RM is likely to be 3K+ in few years and our council members want to build more condos. I am speechless. Crown is not started yet, so it make no sense to refer to crown for current and overcrowding in the next 5 years.

Selling out to developers is not new concept, but this takes the cake here.

Neither are those future buildings you oppose, so by this logic, it makes no sense to oppose them.

Crown won't be there even after 10 years. That's based on MCPS past record. It make no sense to compare with developers putting some condos. Anyway, Crown is irrelevant to this discussion. RM is over crowded right now and moratorium rule is there to make sure that poor situation doesn't get worse.

Which past record, specifically?

The topic is the effect of future residential construction on future high school enrollment. So the high school at Crown is very relevant to this discussion.

[Anonymous]

Aren't there a half-dozen other schools with more serious overcrowding issues than RM?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Based on the way people on this forum talk bad about Rockville, I doubt many people posting here live in Rockville. I think they should make people show ID and prove they are residents of the actual CITY of Rockville before allowing them to talk about how building is bad.

I feel the opposite.

I live in Rockville and have kids in the RM cluster. Anyone who has kids in the cluster (or really in any overcrowded MCPS school) probably doesn’t want a ton of extra housing units in their area. We know it leads to more students in the schools, which are already overcrowded and underfunded.

I think the people who are pushing for additional housing do not actually live in the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Based on the way people on this forum talk bad about Rockville, I doubt many people posting here live in Rockville. I think they should make people show ID and prove they are residents of the actual CITY of Rockville before allowing them to talk about how building is bad.

I feel the opposite.

I live in Rockville and have kids in the RM cluster. Anyone who has kids in the cluster (or really in any overcrowded MCPS school) probably doesn’t want a ton of extra housing units in their area. We know it leads to more students in the schools, which are already overcrowded and underfunded.

I think the people who are pushing for additional housing do not actually live in the area.

So does turnover of existing housing -- when people who no longer have kids in MCPS sell their homes to people who do (or soon will). In fact, turnover of existing housing is probably the major factor in most areas.

Saying new to new housing in an area is great in the short term for people who already live there and own their homes. We've got ours, don't let anybody else in, and our housing prices will be high when we sell! But it's terrible for people who don't live there yet but want to move there, and in the long run, it's terrible for the people who already live there. The east county has a building moratorium for 20 years. Was it good for the area?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Town Center has to suffer so that our school is not at 150% capacity, so be it. The market will dictate the success of Town Center.

Is that you, Mark Pierzchala???

really would be a shame if someone #metoo'd that fellow

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know lots of RM families live outside the West End, but they are trying to mobilize a campaign in the City of Rockville about this issue. Advice from an email I received about it:

The West End Citizens Association will work to oppose the weakening of the APFO beginning with a request to delay the schedule to allow citizens enough time to understand the issue and get involved. However, many officers and block captains are older and do not have children in the schools. The voices who will really matter are the parents with children in the schools. If you are concerned, then here are actions that you need to take:
· Speak at Community Forum on December 17th. Let the Mayor and Council know that the schedule is unfair to citizens, that it needs to be delayed and that you are opposed to allowing increased overcrowding in schools.
· Testify at the Public Hearing on January 7th.
· Speak to your friends who have children in Rockville schools and ask them to speak at Community Forum and testify on January 7th. NUMBERS MATTER. Without a public outcry, there is little chance that this can be stopped.
· Get in touch with your PTA and get them to take a stand.
· Come to the WECA Board meeting on Thursday, December 13that Bar Louie, 7 pm. Help get the community organized.

Did you even watch the council meeting? The vote has to be soon so that the moratorium doesn’t go into effect next year. Or do you want the town center to fail?

And do yo wan take make already horrible situation in RM even worse?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Based on the way people on this forum talk bad about Rockville, I doubt many people posting here live in Rockville. I think they should make people show ID and prove they are residents of the actual CITY of Rockville before allowing them to talk about how building is bad.

I feel the opposite.

I live in Rockville and have kids in the RM cluster. Anyone who has kids in the cluster (or really in any overcrowded MCPS school) probably doesn’t want a ton of extra housing units in their area. We know it leads to more students in the schools, which are already overcrowded and underfunded.

I think the people who are pushing for additional housing do not actually live in the area.

+1

Anyone living in this area and kids in school will know how horrible situation we have in RM. Why anyone will sane mind will push for more housing before schools are 80-100% range ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RM is likely to be 3K+ in few years and our council members want to build more condos. I am speechless. Crown is not started yet, so it make no sense to refer to crown for current and overcrowding in the next 5 years.

Selling out to developers is not new concept, but this takes the cake here.

Neither are those future buildings you oppose, so by this logic, it makes no sense to oppose them.

Crown won't be there even after 10 years. That's based on MCPS past record. It make no sense to compare with developers putting some condos. Anyway, Crown is irrelevant to this discussion. RM is over crowded right now and moratorium rule is there to make sure that poor situation doesn't get worse.

Which past record, specifically?

The topic is the effect of future residential construction on future high school enrollment. So the high school at Crown is very relevant to this discussion.

Go check how long it takes them to open any new high school once they start discussing about it. No Crown is not relevant at all because it doesn't exist and we are not redrawing boundaries right now. Do you know why moratorium exist ? It simply to make sure that kids are not put lowest in priority. Having 120 students for 100 seats is already a horrible situation and you want to make it even worse?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Town Center has to suffer so that our school is not at 150% capacity, so be it. The market will dictate the success of Town Center.

Is that you, Mark Pierzchala???

Agree here. We can't push for 150 kids with 100 seats , just to make more condos in Town center. Priority of some council members are absurd.

[Anonymous]

Pierzchala wants to simply destroy the RM cluster in order to enrich his developer friends and help the Town Center. There is no sane argument to increasing development so that a cluster is at 150% capacity - its nonsense. Hurts kids and teachers and staff. Contact him and express your disgust.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Based on the way people on this forum talk bad about Rockville, I doubt many people posting here live in Rockville. I think they should make people show ID and prove they are residents of the actual CITY of Rockville before allowing them to talk about how building is bad.

I feel the opposite.

I live in Rockville and have kids in the RM cluster. Anyone who has kids in the cluster (or really in any overcrowded MCPS school) probably doesn’t want a ton of extra housing units in their area. We know it leads to more students in the schools, which are already overcrowded and underfunded.

I think the people who are pushing for additional housing do not actually live in the area.

So does turnover of existing housing -- when people who no longer have kids in MCPS sell their homes to people who do (or soon will). In fact, turnover of existing housing is probably the major factor in most areas.

Saying new to new housing in an area is great in the short term for people who already live there and own their homes. We've got ours, don't let anybody else in, and our housing prices will be high when we sell! But it's terrible for people who don't live there yet but want to move there, and in the long run, it's terrible for the people who already live there. The east county has a building moratorium for 20 years. Was it good for the area?

Such a ridiculous argument.

Turnover of current houses is much different than thousands and thousands of NEW housing units - which is what is happening at Twinbrook and at RTC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Town Center has to suffer so that our school is not at 150% capacity, so be it. The market will dictate the success of Town Center.

Is that you, Mark Pierzchala???

I’m sorry but the council is only talking about the town center. It’s not talking about the entire RM zone. You think MarkPierzchala is the only person in the city of Rockville that wants more development? I live near the town center and my kids walk to Beall and I want the town center successful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pierzchala wants to simply destroy the RM cluster in order to enrich his developer friends and help the Town Center. There is no sane argument to increasing development so that a cluster is at 150% capacity - its nonsense. Hurts kids and teachers and staff. Contact him and express your disgust.

I don't know why any sane person will propose such nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Based on the way people on this forum talk bad about Rockville, I doubt many people posting here live in Rockville. I think they should make people show ID and prove they are residents of the actual CITY of Rockville before allowing them to talk about how building is bad.

I feel the opposite.

I live in Rockville and have kids in the RM cluster. Anyone who has kids in the cluster (or really in any overcrowded MCPS school) probably doesn’t want a ton of extra housing units in their area. We know it leads to more students in the schools, which are already overcrowded and underfunded.

I think the people who are pushing for additional housing do not actually live in the area.

So does turnover of existing housing -- when people who no longer have kids in MCPS sell their homes to people who do (or soon will). In fact, turnover of existing housing is probably the major factor in most areas.

Saying new to new housing in an area is great in the short term for people who already live there and own their homes. We've got ours, don't let anybody else in, and our housing prices will be high when we sell! But it's terrible for people who don't live there yet but want to move there, and in the long run, it's terrible for the people who already live there. The east county has a building moratorium for 20 years. Was it good for the area?

Such a ridiculous argument.

Turnover of current houses is much different than thousands and thousands of NEW housing units - which is what is happening at Twinbrook and at RTC.

Why is it? How is it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Town Center has to suffer so that our school is not at 150% capacity, so be it. The market will dictate the success of Town Center.

Is that you, Mark Pierzchala???

I’m sorry but the council is only talking about the town center. It’s not talking about the entire RM zone. You think MarkPierzchala is the only person in the city of Rockville that wants more development? I live near the town center and my kids walk to Beall and I want the town center successful.

By advocating for having 150 kids in 100 seats in school?

Town center doesn't need to be successful if it requires 150 kids in 100 seats in school.