Sharp Objects HBO

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Anonymous wrote:Walks out with multiple pairs?

There’s just too many details that were glossed over.

No teen is going to “hang out”at a pig processing plant even if their mom owns it. If a bike belonging to one of the victims at the plant, it would be searched for evidence; employees would be extensively interviewed as possible witnesses/perpetrators. Amma being there would be established a timeline done by detective work.

The mother was routinely using antifreeze and rat poison that would show in any basic blood work.

If this gang of girls were playing dress up then torturing their victims for hours, their dna would be ALL OVER the bodies.

When children go missing or are found dead, it’s routine to search places they spent a lot of time, their house or for example a carriage house where their brother is living.

munchausen by proxy is completely antithetical to take the blame for a child’s misdeeds. There’s no way someone that selfish would take the blame for someone else.

So, I'm a pediatrician, and I do plenty of chronic abdominal pain workups in kids (most of whom are constipated, or who just don't want to go to school- but I digress). There are no routine blood panels for antifreeze or rat poison.

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Chronic arsenic poisoning would show up in the nails.

Absolutely it would- but, the problem is, someone would need to be looking for that. It seems everyone in Wind Gap was dead set on turning a blind eye to it.

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Anonymous wrote:From one website trying to explain the plot holes, “The logistics of how Amma, Jodes, and Kelsey moved around the bodies or kept their mouths shut during the entire investigation is unclear...”

No sh*t. These girls didn’t drive. So they roller skated dead bodies around town or just call an Uber?

So how did Natalie’s body get placed in the middle of town, in the middle of the day by three 13 year old girls?

The skates weren’t surgically attached, first off. Second, who said the body was placed in the middle of the day? Three or four 13 year old girls could easily kill another girl, carry/drag her body behind a shed or into the woods to move to the alley at night. Via “borrowed” car, or a golf cart like Amma had in the book. Not everything needs to be spelled out.

It says so on one of the websites trying to explain all the plot holes.

Three girls could not easily move a dead body around town. That’s silly.

Three determined 13 year olds who no one even remotely would suspect of murder? Ha. When I was 13 my friend and I dragged several full sized Christmas trees from curbs in our neighborhood back to her yard after dark and propped them up as a prank. No one saw a thing. One small body would have been no problem, were we so inclined.

A Christmas tree is nothing like carrying dead weight. It's also not criminal and supposedly the Christmas tree wasn't bleeding profusely after having all its teeth pulled out.

So how did the explain how Adora moved these two bodies around town?

No one ever needed to explain Adora moving a body (one was dumped in the creek where she was killed) because Amma was revealed as the killer before Adora went to trial for them. She was only convicted of Marion’s death in the book.

In the book the girls killed Natalie in the carriage house and took her to the alley at 4 am in a golf cart. I don’t find it a physically challenging possibility.

The girls also cleaned themselves up at the carriage house after the murder. Dead bodies wouldnt bleed profusely from having teeth removed, btw, because the blood is no longer flowing.

If the girls cleaned themselves up at the carriage house their hair and other traces of them would be with the victim's blood in the sink and shower drains.

Of course it would be, because they spent time together there. If the police find loads of blood on the floor and arrest the brother for murder, why would they bother with the drains? Lol.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t watch CSI, but I understand science.

As a scientist, I understand science too. The chances that reliable DNA evidence will be obtained at a crime scene such as the ones in Sharp Objects and used appropriately to prosecute the correct person or persons are not as high as you think.

People get convicted on flimsy dna evidence all the time. But that’s not my point.

the dead girls would be covered in dna from their murderers and trace evidence from where they were actually killed. Highly unlikely that it wouldn’t have been mentioned. Defense would inevitably bring it up to possibly clear their client.

Maybe HBO will will come up with CSI: Wind Gap so we can enjoy the big reveals during Adora’s trial. I doubt the dead girls were covered in DNA from their killers, or anyone was swabbing behind their ears to see if they could find any silica from Adora’s Blue Lagoon mud mask supply, but weirder things have happened. On CSI shows.

CSI: Wind Gap! Hilarious, PP! (DP here) I wonder if there's going to be a second season - the descriptions each week referred to it as Season 1.

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Anonymous wrote:Another hole—amma wiped her prints from the pliers but not the blood?

What’s the hole? Amma is 13.

DP. I think they should have said the girls were older - 15 maybe. They were far too worldly and sophisticated (both in looks and behavior) to actually only be 13.

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Anonymous wrote:Adora was arrested for the killing of the girls in the adaptation. So what was the evidence besides pliers.

Nobody saw a golf cart whizzing around town and girls lugging a body into the alley. And there was zero DNA or trace evidence on the body.

A mouth would bleed even if the heart's not pumping any more. It is also really hard to pull out healthy teeth. These girls didn't have baby teeth any more.

It's such an implausible story. The author was wanting to use shock value but didn't work out the specifics.

Police had enough evidence to arrest Adora for the murder of Marian and the poisoning of her other two daughters. Probably the pliers were enough evidence, on top of all of that, to also indict her for other crimes, but it isn’t covered in the scope of the series, and Amma was caught not long after, so it’s all just speculation.

Not sure how to address your other assumptions in ways that haven’t already been mentioned. I don’t find the story that implausible, and am glad that the series creators didn’t see the need to spoon feed all the details that weren’t covered.

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I haven't read the book and so I'm speculating - does Camille turn Amma in to the police?

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Anonymous wrote:Adora was arrested for the killing of the girls in the adaptation. So what was the evidence besides pliers.

Nobody saw a golf cart whizzing around town and girls lugging a body into the alley. And there was zero DNA or trace evidence on the body.

A mouth would bleed even if the heart's not pumping any more. It is also really hard to pull out healthy teeth. These girls didn't have baby teeth any more.

It's such an implausible story. The author was wanting to use shock value but didn't work out the specifics.

Police had enough evidence to arrest Adora for the murder of Marian and the poisoning of her other two daughters. Probably the pliers were enough evidence, on top of all of that, to also indict her for other crimes, but it isn’t covered in the scope of the series, and Amma was caught not long after, so it’s all just speculation.

Not sure how to address your other assumptions in ways that haven’t already been mentioned. I don’t find the story that implausible, and am glad that the series creators didn’t see the need to spoon feed all the details that weren’t covered.

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I haven't read the book and so I'm speculating - does Camille turn Amma in to the police?

Yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Walks out with multiple pairs?

There’s just too many details that were glossed over.

No teen is going to “hang out”at a pig processing plant even if their mom owns it. If a bike belonging to one of the victims at the plant, it would be searched for evidence; employees would be extensively interviewed as possible witnesses/perpetrators. Amma being there would be established a timeline done by detective work.

The mother was routinely using antifreeze and rat poison that would show in any basic blood work.

If this gang of girls were playing dress up then torturing their victims for hours, their dna would be ALL OVER the bodies.

When children go missing or are found dead, it’s routine to search places they spent a lot of time, their house or for example a carriage house where their brother is living.

munchausen by proxy is completely antithetical to take the blame for a child’s misdeeds. There’s no way someone that selfish would take the blame for someone else.

So, I'm a pediatrician, and I do plenty of chronic abdominal pain workups in kids (most of whom are constipated, or who just don't want to go to school- but I digress). There are no routine blood panels for antifreeze or rat poison.

Okay then in the pee sample: https://www.mayomedicallaboratories.com/test-catalog/Clinical+and+Interpretive/8645

Chronic arsenic poisoning would show up in the nails.

Absolutely it would- but, the problem is, someone would need to be looking for that. It seems everyone in Wind Gap was dead set on turning a blind eye to it.

I'm still appalled that Alan witnessed Adora preparing her "concoction," crushing pills, etc. - and never said a word.

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I was confused as to why the girls were hanging around the pool where Natalie's brother was living with his girlfriend. He obviously hated Amma - who invited them over to swim? His girlfriend? And what was her connection to the girls - how much older was she supposed to be?

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Anonymous wrote:I was confused as to why the girls were hanging around the pool where Natalie's brother was living with his girlfriend. He obviously hated Amma - who invited them over to swim? His girlfriend? And what was her connection to the girls - how much older was she supposed to be?

IIRC in the book he suspected Amma, hated her for what he suspected, and wanted to keep an eye on her- maybe to catch her at something or out of concern for the other friends. I don’t know if there was an open invitation to use the pool that they were still taking advantage of, or what. In the book Amma loved torturing him about Natalie, fwiw, and probably would happily have accepted an invitation just so she could do that (I think these details were revealed after she was implicated in the murders, at the end of the book).

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Anonymous wrote:I was confused as to why the girls were hanging around the pool where Natalie's brother was living with his girlfriend. He obviously hated Amma - who invited them over to swim? His girlfriend? And what was her connection to the girls - how much older was she supposed to be?

So it wasn't nearly as obvious in the show- they briefly mentioned it like once, but it was easy to miss- one of Amma's little roller skating friends was Ashley's (the cheerleader girlfriend's) younger sister. Which is why they killed Natalie in the carriage house- it was where they hung out. John moved into the carriage house with Ashley after his sister died because he didn't want to be in his depressing home anymore- but before that, it was a hangout spot for the girls. In the show, Ashley said very briefly "my sister was pissed John and i moved in here (carriage house) because she and her nasty friends used to hang out in here"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Walks out with multiple pairs?

There’s just too many details that were glossed over.

No teen is going to “hang out”at a pig processing plant even if their mom owns it. If a bike belonging to one of the victims at the plant, it would be searched for evidence; employees would be extensively interviewed as possible witnesses/perpetrators. Amma being there would be established a timeline done by detective work.

The mother was routinely using antifreeze and rat poison that would show in any basic blood work.

If this gang of girls were playing dress up then torturing their victims for hours, their dna would be ALL OVER the bodies.

When children go missing or are found dead, it’s routine to search places they spent a lot of time, their house or for example a carriage house where their brother is living.

munchausen by proxy is completely antithetical to take the blame for a child’s misdeeds. There’s no way someone that selfish would take the blame for someone else.

So, I'm a pediatrician, and I do plenty of chronic abdominal pain workups in kids (most of whom are constipated, or who just don't want to go to school- but I digress). There are no routine blood panels for antifreeze or rat poison.

Okay then in the pee sample: https://www.mayomedicallaboratories.com/test-catalog/Clinical+and+Interpretive/8645

Chronic arsenic poisoning would show up in the nails.

Absolutely it would- but, the problem is, someone would need to be looking for that. It seems everyone in Wind Gap was dead set on turning a blind eye to it.

Then what evidence did they use to convict adora for her daughter’s murder?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Another hole—amma wiped her prints from the pliers but not the blood?

What’s the hole? Amma is 13.

DP. I think they should have said the girls were older - 15 maybe. They were far too worldly and sophisticated (both in looks and behavior) to actually only be 13.

And amma committed the first murder when she was 12.

They had a 19 year old playing a 13 year old and she’s huge. I suspect Adora was injecting her with growth hormones.

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Anonymous wrote:From one website trying to explain the plot holes, “The logistics of how Amma, Jodes, and Kelsey moved around the bodies or kept their mouths shut during the entire investigation is unclear...”

No sh*t. These girls didn’t drive. So they roller skated dead bodies around town or just call an Uber?

So how did Natalie’s body get placed in the middle of town, in the middle of the day by three 13 year old girls?

The skates weren’t surgically attached, first off. Second, who said the body was placed in the middle of the day? Three or four 13 year old girls could easily kill another girl, carry/drag her body behind a shed or into the woods to move to the alley at night. Via “borrowed” car, or a golf cart like Amma had in the book. Not everything needs to be spelled out.

It says so on one of the websites trying to explain all the plot holes.

Three girls could not easily move a dead body around town. That’s silly.

Three determined 13 year olds who no one even remotely would suspect of murder? Ha. When I was 13 my friend and I dragged several full sized Christmas trees from curbs in our neighborhood back to her yard after dark and propped them up as a prank. No one saw a thing. One small body would have been no problem, were we so inclined.

A Christmas tree is nothing like carrying dead weight. It's also not criminal and supposedly the Christmas tree wasn't bleeding profusely after having all its teeth pulled out.

So how did the explain how Adora moved these two bodies around town?

No one ever needed to explain Adora moving a body (one was dumped in the creek where she was killed) because Amma was revealed as the killer before Adora went to trial for them. She was only convicted of Marion’s death in the book.

In the book the girls killed Natalie in the carriage house and took her to the alley at 4 am in a golf cart. I don’t find it a physically challenging possibility.

The girls also cleaned themselves up at the carriage house after the murder. Dead bodies wouldnt bleed profusely from having teeth removed, btw, because the blood is no longer flowing.

If the girls cleaned themselves up at the carriage house their hair and other traces of them would be with the victim's blood in the sink and shower drains.

Of course it would be, because they spent time together there. If the police find loads of blood on the floor and arrest the brother for murder, why would they bother with the drains? Lol.

B/c that’s how you process a crime scene.

[Anonymous]

Another plot hole: weepy boy didn’t live in the carriage house until after his sister died.

His girlfriend’s little sister and her friends hung out there. So why exactly did the police arrest him b/c they found her blood there?

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Anonymous wrote:Another plot hole: weepy boy didn’t live in the carriage house until after his sister died.

His girlfriend’s little sister and her friends hung out there. So why exactly did the police arrest him b/c they found her blood there?

His girlfriend implicated him so that she could be on tv.