Sharp Objects HBO

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Anonymous wrote:From one website trying to explain the plot holes, “The logistics of how Amma, Jodes, and Kelsey moved around the bodies or kept their mouths shut during the entire investigation is unclear...”

No sh*t. These girls didn’t drive. So they roller skated dead bodies around town or just call an Uber?

So how did Natalie’s body get placed in the middle of town, in the middle of the day by three 13 year old girls?

The skates weren’t surgically attached, first off. Second, who said the body was placed in the middle of the day? Three or four 13 year old girls could easily kill another girl, carry/drag her body behind a shed or into the woods to move to the alley at night. Via “borrowed” car, or a golf cart like Amma had in the book. Not everything needs to be spelled out.

It says so on one of the websites trying to explain all the plot holes.

Three girls could not easily move a dead body around town. That’s silly.

Three determined 13 year olds who no one even remotely would suspect of murder? Ha. When I was 13 my friend and I dragged several full sized Christmas trees from curbs in our neighborhood back to her yard after dark and propped them up as a prank. No one saw a thing. One small body would have been no problem, were we so inclined.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From one website trying to explain the plot holes, “The logistics of how Amma, Jodes, and Kelsey moved around the bodies or kept their mouths shut during the entire investigation is unclear...”

No sh*t. These girls didn’t drive. So they roller skated dead bodies around town or just call an Uber?

So how did Natalie’s body get placed in the middle of town, in the middle of the day by three 13 year old girls?

The skates weren’t surgically attached, first off. Second, who said the body was placed in the middle of the day? Three or four 13 year old girls could easily kill another girl, carry/drag her body behind a shed or into the woods to move to the alley at night. Via “borrowed” car, or a golf cart like Amma had in the book. Not everything needs to be spelled out.

It says so on one of the websites trying to explain all the plot holes.

Three girls could not easily move a dead body around town. That’s silly.

Three determined 13 year olds who no one even remotely would suspect of murder? Ha. When I was 13 my friend and I dragged several full sized Christmas trees from curbs in our neighborhood back to her yard after dark and propped them up as a prank. No one saw a thing. One small body would have been no problem, were we so inclined.

A Christmas tree is nothing like carrying dead weight. It's also not criminal and supposedly the Christmas tree wasn't bleeding profusely after having all its teeth pulled out.

So how did the explain how Adora moved these two bodies around town?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From one website trying to explain the plot holes, “The logistics of how Amma, Jodes, and Kelsey moved around the bodies or kept their mouths shut during the entire investigation is unclear...”

No sh*t. These girls didn’t drive. So they roller skated dead bodies around town or just call an Uber?

So how did Natalie’s body get placed in the middle of town, in the middle of the day by three 13 year old girls?

The skates weren’t surgically attached, first off. Second, who said the body was placed in the middle of the day? Three or four 13 year old girls could easily kill another girl, carry/drag her body behind a shed or into the woods to move to the alley at night. Via “borrowed” car, or a golf cart like Amma had in the book. Not everything needs to be spelled out.

It says so on one of the websites trying to explain all the plot holes.

Three girls could not easily move a dead body around town. That’s silly.

Three determined 13 year olds who no one even remotely would suspect of murder? Ha. When I was 13 my friend and I dragged several full sized Christmas trees from curbs in our neighborhood back to her yard after dark and propped them up as a prank. No one saw a thing. One small body would have been no problem, were we so inclined.

A Christmas tree is nothing like carrying dead weight. It's also not criminal and supposedly the Christmas tree wasn't bleeding profusely after having all its teeth pulled out.

So how did the explain how Adora moved these two bodies around town?

No one ever needed to explain Adora moving a body (one was dumped in the creek where she was killed) because Amma was revealed as the killer before Adora went to trial for them. She was only convicted of Marion’s death in the book.

In the book the girls killed Natalie in the carriage house and took her to the alley at 4 am in a golf cart. I don’t find it a physically challenging possibility.

The girls also cleaned themselves up at the carriage house after the murder. Dead bodies wouldnt bleed profusely from having teeth removed, btw, because the blood is no longer flowing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From one website trying to explain the plot holes, “The logistics of how Amma, Jodes, and Kelsey moved around the bodies or kept their mouths shut during the entire investigation is unclear...”

No sh*t. These girls didn’t drive. So they roller skated dead bodies around town or just call an Uber?

So how did Natalie’s body get placed in the middle of town, in the middle of the day by three 13 year old girls?

The skates weren’t surgically attached, first off. Second, who said the body was placed in the middle of the day? Three or four 13 year old girls could easily kill another girl, carry/drag her body behind a shed or into the woods to move to the alley at night. Via “borrowed” car, or a golf cart like Amma had in the book. Not everything needs to be spelled out.

It says so on one of the websites trying to explain all the plot holes.

Three girls could not easily move a dead body around town. That’s silly.

Three determined 13 year olds who no one even remotely would suspect of murder? Ha. When I was 13 my friend and I dragged several full sized Christmas trees from curbs in our neighborhood back to her yard after dark and propped them up as a prank. No one saw a thing. One small body would have been no problem, were we so inclined.

A Christmas tree is nothing like carrying dead weight. It's also not criminal and supposedly the Christmas tree wasn't bleeding profusely after having all its teeth pulled out.

So how did the explain how Adora moved these two bodies around town?

No one ever needed to explain Adora moving a body (one was dumped in the creek where she was killed) because Amma was revealed as the killer before Adora went to trial for them. She was only convicted of Marion’s death in the book.

In the book the girls killed Natalie in the carriage house and took her to the alley at 4 am in a golf cart. I don’t find it a physically challenging possibility.

The girls also cleaned themselves up at the carriage house after the murder. Dead bodies wouldnt bleed profusely from having teeth removed, btw, because the blood is no longer flowing.

How does Amma get punished in the book?

[Anonymous]

Adora was arrested for the killing of the girls in the adaptation. So what was the evidence besides pliers.

Nobody saw a golf cart whizzing around town and girls lugging a body into the alley. And there was zero DNA or trace evidence on the body.

A mouth would bleed even if the heart's not pumping any more. It is also really hard to pull out healthy teeth. These girls didn't have baby teeth any more.

It's such an implausible story. The author was wanting to use shock value but didn't work out the specifics.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From one website trying to explain the plot holes, “The logistics of how Amma, Jodes, and Kelsey moved around the bodies or kept their mouths shut during the entire investigation is unclear...”

No sh*t. These girls didn’t drive. So they roller skated dead bodies around town or just call an Uber?

So how did Natalie’s body get placed in the middle of town, in the middle of the day by three 13 year old girls?

The skates weren’t surgically attached, first off. Second, who said the body was placed in the middle of the day? Three or four 13 year old girls could easily kill another girl, carry/drag her body behind a shed or into the woods to move to the alley at night. Via “borrowed” car, or a golf cart like Amma had in the book. Not everything needs to be spelled out.

It says so on one of the websites trying to explain all the plot holes.

Three girls could not easily move a dead body around town. That’s silly.

Three determined 13 year olds who no one even remotely would suspect of murder? Ha. When I was 13 my friend and I dragged several full sized Christmas trees from curbs in our neighborhood back to her yard after dark and propped them up as a prank. No one saw a thing. One small body would have been no problem, were we so inclined.

A Christmas tree is nothing like carrying dead weight. It's also not criminal and supposedly the Christmas tree wasn't bleeding profusely after having all its teeth pulled out.

So how did the explain how Adora moved these two bodies around town?

No one ever needed to explain Adora moving a body (one was dumped in the creek where she was killed) because Amma was revealed as the killer before Adora went to trial for them. She was only convicted of Marion’s death in the book.

In the book the girls killed Natalie in the carriage house and took her to the alley at 4 am in a golf cart. I don’t find it a physically challenging possibility.

The girls also cleaned themselves up at the carriage house after the murder. Dead bodies wouldnt bleed profusely from having teeth removed, btw, because the blood is no longer flowing.

How does Amma get punished in the book?

Juvie. Locked up until she’s 18, and “likely longer.”

[Anonymous]

And after killing two people, they wouldn't have tried her as adult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Adora was arrested for the killing of the girls in the adaptation. So what was the evidence besides pliers.

Nobody saw a golf cart whizzing around town and girls lugging a body into the alley. And there was zero DNA or trace evidence on the body.

A mouth would bleed even if the heart's not pumping any more. It is also really hard to pull out healthy teeth. These girls didn't have baby teeth any more.

It's such an implausible story. The author was wanting to use shock value but didn't work out the specifics.

Police had enough evidence to arrest Adora for the murder of Marian and the poisoning of her other two daughters. Probably the pliers were enough evidence, on top of all of that, to also indict her for other crimes, but it isn’t covered in the scope of the series, and Amma was caught not long after, so it’s all just speculation.

Not sure how to address your other assumptions in ways that haven’t already been mentioned. I don’t find the story that implausible, and am glad that the series creators didn’t see the need to spoon feed all the details that weren’t covered.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If everything were spelled out in glowing detail the series would be twice as long.

I’m ok with some ambiguity about details such as when and how they got the coveralls, etc. It’s easy to come up with plausible answers, so why do they all need to be provided?

I agree. The whole thing had a very dreamlike quality. I can put together the details in my head - or not. I hate shows that treat the viewer like we're so dumb, it has to all be spelled out for us.

The writers were obviously on as many drugs as the teens in the book/series. Not spelled out crystal clear, but when websites crop up to make guesses at many, many plot holes then, yes that’s weak storytelling.

A band of teenaged serial killers and not one tiny bit of DNA evidence implicating any of them? The author should have picked a pre dna testing era if she was going to gloss over so plot points that just didn’t make any sense.

But theoretically none of those 13 year olds were in the criminal justice system so their DNA woudln't be on file, it wouldn't have mattered. Just shown up as unknown DNA. Which wouldn't be helpful at all really.

[Anonymous]

The DNA wouldn't have been in any database, but you can tell if it's female or not. If the the girls painted nails/shaved legs, then tortured the victims, then they're DNA would be present in spades.

The local sheriff may not have wanted to suspect juveniles, but a detective brought in would have reviewed evidence, establishe a timeline, known associates. The fact that neither were sexually assaulted and would have been covered in female DNA would point to a female suspects. Since the 90s juvenile "justice" laws have been in place to try children as adults. So just b/c the sheriff was Adora's toady doesn't mean every other cop would be as stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Walks out with multiple pairs?

There’s just too many details that were glossed over.

No teen is going to “hang out”at a pig processing plant even if their mom owns it. If a bike belonging to one of the victims at the plant, it would be searched for evidence; employees would be extensively interviewed as possible witnesses/perpetrators. Amma being there would be established a timeline done by detective work.

The mother was routinely using antifreeze and rat poison that would show in any basic blood work.

If this gang of girls were playing dress up then torturing their victims for hours, their dna would be ALL OVER the bodies.

When children go missing or are found dead, it’s routine to search places they spent a lot of time, their house or for example a carriage house where their brother is living.

munchausen by proxy is completely antithetical to take the blame for a child’s misdeeds. There’s no way someone that selfish would take the blame for someone else.

So, I'm a pediatrician, and I do plenty of chronic abdominal pain workups in kids (most of whom are constipated, or who just don't want to go to school- but I digress). There are no routine blood panels for antifreeze or rat poison.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Walks out with multiple pairs?

There’s just too many details that were glossed over.

No teen is going to “hang out”at a pig processing plant even if their mom owns it. If a bike belonging to one of the victims at the plant, it would be searched for evidence; employees would be extensively interviewed as possible witnesses/perpetrators. Amma being there would be established a timeline done by detective work.

The mother was routinely using antifreeze and rat poison that would show in any basic blood work.

If this gang of girls were playing dress up then torturing their victims for hours, their dna would be ALL OVER the bodies.

When children go missing or are found dead, it’s routine to search places they spent a lot of time, their house or for example a carriage house where their brother is living.

munchausen by proxy is completely antithetical to take the blame for a child’s misdeeds. There’s no way someone that selfish would take the blame for someone else.

So, I'm a pediatrician, and I do plenty of chronic abdominal pain workups in kids (most of whom are constipated, or who just don't want to go to school- but I digress). There are no routine blood panels for antifreeze or rat poison.

Okay then in the pee sample: https://www.mayomedicallaboratories.com/test-catalog/Clinical+and+Interpretive/8645

Chronic arsenic poisoning would show up in the nails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Walks out with multiple pairs?

There’s just too many details that were glossed over.

No teen is going to “hang out”at a pig processing plant even if their mom owns it. If a bike belonging to one of the victims at the plant, it would be searched for evidence; employees would be extensively interviewed as possible witnesses/perpetrators. Amma being there would be established a timeline done by detective work.

The mother was routinely using antifreeze and rat poison that would show in any basic blood work.

If this gang of girls were playing dress up then torturing their victims for hours, their dna would be ALL OVER the bodies.

When children go missing or are found dead, it’s routine to search places they spent a lot of time, their house or for example a carriage house where their brother is living.

munchausen by proxy is completely antithetical to take the blame for a child’s misdeeds. There’s no way someone that selfish would take the blame for someone else.

So, I'm a pediatrician, and I do plenty of chronic abdominal pain workups in kids (most of whom are constipated, or who just don't want to go to school- but I digress). There are no routine blood panels for antifreeze or rat poison.

Okay then in the pee sample: https://www.mayomedicallaboratories.com/test-catalog/Clinical+and+Interpretive/8645

Chronic arsenic poisoning would show up in the nails.

Just because it’s there doesn’t mean anyone is looking for it. Adora knew what she was doing when she had the body cremated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Walks out with multiple pairs?

There’s just too many details that were glossed over.

No teen is going to “hang out”at a pig processing plant even if their mom owns it. If a bike belonging to one of the victims at the plant, it would be searched for evidence; employees would be extensively interviewed as possible witnesses/perpetrators. Amma being there would be established a timeline done by detective work.

The mother was routinely using antifreeze and rat poison that would show in any basic blood work.

If this gang of girls were playing dress up then torturing their victims for hours, their dna would be ALL OVER the bodies.

When children go missing or are found dead, it’s routine to search places they spent a lot of time, their house or for example a carriage house where their brother is living.

munchausen by proxy is completely antithetical to take the blame for a child’s misdeeds. There’s no way someone that selfish would take the blame for someone else.

So, I'm a pediatrician, and I do plenty of chronic abdominal pain workups in kids (most of whom are constipated, or who just don't want to go to school- but I digress). There are no routine blood panels for antifreeze or rat poison.

Okay then in the pee sample: https://www.mayomedicallaboratories.com/test-catalog/Clinical+and+Interpretive/8645

Chronic arsenic poisoning would show up in the nails.

Just because it’s there doesn’t mean anyone is looking for it. Adora knew what she was doing when she had the body cremated.

Then how was she convicted for killing her daughter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From one website trying to explain the plot holes, “The logistics of how Amma, Jodes, and Kelsey moved around the bodies or kept their mouths shut during the entire investigation is unclear...”

No sh*t. These girls didn’t drive. So they roller skated dead bodies around town or just call an Uber?

So how did Natalie’s body get placed in the middle of town, in the middle of the day by three 13 year old girls?

The skates weren’t surgically attached, first off. Second, who said the body was placed in the middle of the day? Three or four 13 year old girls could easily kill another girl, carry/drag her body behind a shed or into the woods to move to the alley at night. Via “borrowed” car, or a golf cart like Amma had in the book. Not everything needs to be spelled out.

It says so on one of the websites trying to explain all the plot holes.

Three girls could not easily move a dead body around town. That’s silly.

Three determined 13 year olds who no one even remotely would suspect of murder? Ha. When I was 13 my friend and I dragged several full sized Christmas trees from curbs in our neighborhood back to her yard after dark and propped them up as a prank. No one saw a thing. One small body would have been no problem, were we so inclined.

A Christmas tree is nothing like carrying dead weight. It's also not criminal and supposedly the Christmas tree wasn't bleeding profusely after having all its teeth pulled out.

So how did the explain how Adora moved these two bodies around town?

No one ever needed to explain Adora moving a body (one was dumped in the creek where she was killed) because Amma was revealed as the killer before Adora went to trial for them. She was only convicted of Marion’s death in the book.

In the book the girls killed Natalie in the carriage house and took her to the alley at 4 am in a golf cart. I don’t find it a physically challenging possibility.

The girls also cleaned themselves up at the carriage house after the murder. Dead bodies wouldnt bleed profusely from having teeth removed, btw, because the blood is no longer flowing.

If the girls cleaned themselves up at the carriage house their hair and other traces of them would be with the victim's blood in the sink and shower drains.