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Anonymous
ECNL is eating into both NPL and CCL. NCSL shall rise again! |
Pay nowhere near that and we are at a strong ccl club on a decent team.
Anonymous
Arlington Soccer is going ECNL. |
Anonymous
You have no clue what you're talking about here. For ECNL, the U16 and U17 teams have to do 3 showcases of their choice. U18 and U14 have to do two. I forget if U15 is 2 or 3 but it's easy to check if you want to go to the ECNL website. No one has to do all five. In fact, if a team attends more than the required number of showcases then at PDA, the team will usually be put into a non-ECNL bracket, ie, treated like any other non-ECNL team at the event. Also, very few, if any, ECNL clubs do Disney because they can just do ECNL Florida during the same time frame and it counts as one of the required showcases. At least have some clue what you're talking about |
Anonymous
What exactly is the goal for your DD? Mine wants to play at the highest level. She dreams of it. She works at it. She can get a scholarship just as easy in ECNL as DA most likely. Older girls in her club get to train with real professionals. She's not going to get scouted by national team scouts nearly as much anywhere but the DA. They are are almost every regular season game. The WS fee looks high. But we haven't had to pay a dime over that for anything but travel. Overall, it's about the same or even less than we paid in ECNL. We paid for everything that happened in ECNL. Uniforms. Supplemental this or that. Futsal. I'm afraid to really add it up. Cost is around the same, but we get more IMO. DA is 4 nights per week, ECNL was mostly 3, and many of those in the off season were skipped. Extra field nights cost $$ or takes away from other teams the club can handle. Every game is video taped and we can see them within 24 hours. That can't be cheap. Every showcase is 3 games in 4 days, so a 5 day trip and safer for the players. DA requires trainers at every game. DA requires medical and fitness testing. The DA requires A and B coaching licenses, which I understand the clubs pay for. |
Anonymous
hey butthead, go ahead and leave Arl. if they don't get a precious elite uniform patch for your little Mia. no one is claiming King of CCL is elite and we don't need want your stupid patch to enjoy State cup,.as cr@ppy as it is, yes I admit it. |
Anonymous
Not PP. Not sure what the disagreement is you are having, but with the dilution of ECNL given all their clubs in the DMV, I think these posters would agree with you that the FCV or Spirit DAs are the top level. ECNL is a new second tier, which has some benefits for some college-playing families especially if it is at your local club. The costs are very comparable. ECNL needs to lower its costs and DA can keep theirs where they are. All DA players want college, but the same can't be said for all ECNL players now IMO. |
Anonymous
Apply for GDA but go ECNL - what happened? |
Anonymous
In re-reading the PP I think we actually are in agreement. ECNL can lower cost by reducing regular season travel. Their expansion locally can address that cost. They can reduce the number of National events or at least regionalize them. No reason for a CA club to play in a NJ showcase. And then bada bing you have well organized "second" level league. And with a true second tier league, yes, National Scouts have a place to look for those late bloomers. College scouts will do the same. It will remain a legitimate pathway. |
Anonymous
I was referring to the cost comparisons, which seemed to imply it was wrong that a DA might be higher even though I really don't think it is. Not sure what all the ECNL clubs charge. I don't think either that people here agree WS and FCV are clearly the top. If they keep adding ECNLs that will be a fact for sure sooner than later. For us, all other things being equal, the upward opportunity at WS is the difference. Missing HS is the only rough spot, but she's moved on. |
Anonymous
This is the most sensible, honest post I've read in days. We have #MONEYGRAB, Soccer Dad, Nothing Burger, and all the rest with their agendas, but ECNL, as a remade second tier at a lower cost makes a whole lot of sense. Does your DD play at DA and was she at ECNL before? My DD got an early offer for WS DA and she is having a tough time deciding. Every ECNL meeting we hear about has parents being told ECNL is as elite a path, if not more, than DA. But when I examine the landscape around the US, it doesn't seem to be unfolding that way at the club level. |
Anonymous
Are you surprised one club holds a meeting who's committed to one league and does nothing but bash the other clubs and league? |
Anonymous
Yes. Former ECNL now DA. How is it possible ECNL is a more elite path? Path to what? Did someone look you in the eye and say your DD has a better chance at being a pro or making a youth national team in ECNL than at WS DA? There is nothing wrong with ECNL. It should become the clear #2 option (and #1 option in markets without DAs). It would then still be heavily scouted for college, which is as high as most players will every want or need to go. It's not really ECNL vs. DA if you're looking for the most elite path. It's WS or not. There aren't any FCV kids training with Mallory Pugh at the soccer plex. The ECNL clubs are mostly well coached and will get plenty of college exposure. |
Anonymous
Sorry but disagree, VPL is losing mid level clubs and adding weak clubs in order to have numbers. Besides Richmond clubs there isn't much in competition. Just because VPL is associated with NPL? CCL has stronger clubs overall even with some of those teams being a club's 2nd team since their first is in DA or ECNL. |
Anonymous
I agree, VPL lost NVSC last year and now Rush. Nobody cares if CCL doesn't have a national championship. If your kid can't make a DA or ECNL team then should you really be playing in a national championship anyway ? |
Anonymous
| Arlington getting Girls DA and expansion for boys. Boom, discus |