Superintendent's Recommendation for Richard Montgomery ES #5 Boundaries

[Anonymous]

Do you know how many people in the Hispanic community (especially illegal) work under the table? I highly doubt 70% of that area makes a combined family income of less than 39K. Twinbrook is not the slums. The houses are very similar to the ones in walking distance to RM#5

That income under $39K is what is just reported to the government.

[Anonymous]

After MCPS claimed that modified option brings minimal changes to option 8, Mayor asked to present modified 8 options. MCPS gave a non-commital reply.

Since MCPS has the data, it shouldn't take more than couple of hours to present modified 8 options. You don't need months of endless rounds here. Simply present modified 8 options and then have a one week to pick the best option. Wrap it up in one week to not have any impact on staffing and other allocations.

Asking citizens to provide boundary is a ridiculous suggestion. People are paid by taxpayers in MCPS to come up with options. MCPS should present modified 8 options to make the decision transparent, otherwise it seems something weird is going on here. Community has no clue why modified option 8 is picked because no other option is being presented here. We shouldn't be picking rabbit out of hat and claim that it's the only and best option. If modified option 8 is the best we can do then let's see it. Make it transparent.

Everyone from RM cluster should ask MCPS, BOE etc to simply provide 8 modified options as indicated by Mayor and just have 2 quick public input. Then pick the best possible one in one week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do you know how many people in the Hispanic community (especially illegal) work under the table? I highly doubt 70% of that area makes a combined family income of less than 39K. Twinbrook is not the slums. The houses are very similar to the ones in walking distance to RM#5

That income under $39K is what is just reported to the government.

Well, if they are illegal then that means that they don't have a work visa or a SSN so your answer is 100%. For those who are here legally, it's probably near the same as the rest of the population (just a guess though). The other issue is your $39K number. If you have 3 families living in a 3 bedroom house, that max income number will definitely be higher than $39K.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you know how many people in the Hispanic community (especially illegal) work under the table? I highly doubt 70% of that area makes a combined family income of less than 39K. Twinbrook is not the slums. The houses are very similar to the ones in walking distance to RM#5

That income under $39K is what is just reported to the government.

Well, if they are illegal then that means that they don't have a work visa or a SSN so your answer is 100%. For those who are here legally, it's probably near the same as the rest of the population (just a guess though). The other issue is your $39K number. If you have 3 families living in a 3 bedroom house, that max income number will definitely be higher than $39K.

Have you heard of Taxpayer Identification Numbers? https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/taxpayer-identification-numbers-tin

Also, you can live in the same house without being in the same household. It is possible to have multiple households in the same house.

A household is defined as a group of related or unrelated individuals who are not residents of an institution or boarding house but who are living as one economic unit. This means they generally reside in the same house and share expenses such as rent, utilities and food.

https://www.fns.usda.gov/school-meals/faqs#If a child and the child’s parent live with the child’s grandparent, must the grandparent’s income be included on the application for free and reduced price meals?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do you know how many people in the Hispanic community (especially illegal) work under the table? I highly doubt 70% of that area makes a combined family income of less than 39K. Twinbrook is not the slums. The houses are very similar to the ones in walking distance to RM#5

That income under $39K is what is just reported to the government.

Well, if they are illegal then that means that they don't have a work visa or a SSN so your answer is 100%. For those who are here legally, it's probably near the same as the rest of the population (just a guess though). The other issue is your $39K number. If you have 3 families living in a 3 bedroom house, that max income number will definitely be higher than $39K.

Have you heard of Taxpayer Identification Numbers? https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/taxpayer-identification-numbers-tin

Also, you can live in the same house without being in the same household. It is possible to have multiple households in the same house.

A household is defined as a group of related or unrelated individuals who are not residents of an institution or boarding house but who are living as one economic unit. This means they generally reside in the same house and share expenses such as rent, utilities and food.

https://www.fns.usda.gov/school-meals/faqs#If a child and the child’s parent live with the child’s grandparent, must the grandparent’s income be included on the application for free and reduced price meals?

Bless your heart..... I wish I was able to see things with such childlike naivety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Bless your heart..... I wish I was able to see things with such childlike naivety.

You do. Believing things to be so, without any evidence that they actually are so, is childlike naivete.

[Anonymous]

Ritchie park under the superintendents proposal: 10 percent farms, 6 percent SOL

wow!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ritchie park under the superintendents proposal: 10 percent farms, 6 percent SOL

wow!

This is because the demographics of the area around RP are different from the rest of the RM area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ritchie park under the superintendents proposal: 10 percent farms, 6 percent SOL

wow!

This is because the demographics of the area around RP are different from the rest of the RM area.

yes i understand that. i was just surprised that the superintended would propose this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ritchie park under the superintendents proposal: 10 percent farms, 6 percent SOL

wow!

This is because the demographics of the area around RP are different from the rest of the RM area.

yes i understand that. i was just surprised that the superintended would propose this

75% of the options presented called for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:After MCPS claimed that modified option brings minimal changes to option 8, Mayor asked to present modified 8 options. MCPS gave a non-commital reply.

Since MCPS has the data, it shouldn't take more than couple of hours to present modified 8 options. You don't need months of endless rounds here. Simply present modified 8 options and then have a one week to pick the best option. Wrap it up in one week to not have any impact on staffing and other allocations.

Asking citizens to provide boundary is a ridiculous suggestion. People are paid by taxpayers in MCPS to come up with options. MCPS should present modified 8 options to make the decision transparent, otherwise it seems something weird is going on here. Community has no clue why modified option 8 is picked because no other option is being presented here. We shouldn't be picking rabbit out of hat and claim that it's the only and best option. If modified option 8 is the best we can do then let's see it. Make it transparent.

Everyone from RM cluster should ask MCPS, BOE etc to simply provide 8 modified options as indicated by Mayor and just have 2 quick public input. Then pick the best possible one in one week.

you know the Rockville Mayor has literally no oversight over the BOE right? That's why MCPS gave a non-committal reply. They don't have to care what she wants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ritchie park under the superintendents proposal: 10 percent farms, 6 percent SOL

wow!

This is because the demographics of the area around RP are different from the rest of the RM area.

yes i understand that. i was just surprised that the superintended would propose this

75% of the options presented called for it.

Well Ritchie Park's two closest elementary schools; Beverly Farms and Cold Springs have 3 and 2% FARMS. They are in the middle of suburban middle class single-family home neighborhoods. There isn't much FARMS around as they are the only ES in the cluster away from 355/downtown that tends to have the apartments and smaller homes.

Don't forget, they skipped over other closer schools (Fallsmeade, Maryvale) when they moved RP out of Wootton to the RM cluster. Then they added the entire Fallagrove community to overcrowd it. It isn't like this school was ever high FARMS or overcrowded to begin with. They just got screwed. So I don't quite understand the astonishment of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ritchie park under the superintendents proposal: 10 percent farms, 6 percent SOL

wow!

This is because the demographics of the area around RP are different from the rest of the RM area.

RP2 and RP6 are closer to RP school and Falls grove.

Can anyone explain why we have a thin region from other side of 270 going to RP which divides Beall in two parts? I assumed that it's' to diversify RP and also not put all FARMs kids in Beall.

Suddenly diversity of RP doesn't matter?

[Anonymous]

Correction : RP2 and RP6 are closer to RP school than Falls grove.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Correction : RP2 and RP6 are closer to RP school than Falls grove.

An optimized super system is composed of unoptimized subsystems... that’s a fact of complex system. That is, if you optimize all subsystems, you deoptimize the supersystem. You cannot satisfy the requirements of the whole county and every cluster and each ES. You have to have some compromise. So, yes, there is a reason RP2 and RP6 were assigned to RP. There is a reason RP4 goes to RM and not the closer HS—Wootton.