s/o what are AA parents teaching their kids?

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Anonymous wrote:Jerry Sandusky was such a stand up guy.
Blacks parents could learn a lot from guys like him.

Oh and don't forget about great gals like Andrea Yates and Susan Smith and Casey Anthony. Blacks could learn a lot about parenting from them!

Totally!

I think Andrea Yates suffered from extreme PPD. Her husband was weird and controlling, too.

Ah, the convenient white criminal with a mental disorder trick. It never gets old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jerry Sandusky was such a stand up guy.
Blacks parents could learn a lot from guys like him.

Oh and don't forget about great gals like Andrea Yates and Susan Smith and Casey Anthony. Blacks could learn a lot about parenting from them!

Totally!

I think Andrea Yates suffered from extreme PPD. Her husband was weird and controlling, too.

Ah, the convenient white criminal with a mental disorder trick. It never gets old.

Well, there was the African American woman in DC who killed her four kids. She was mentally ill.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wait so white parents aren't perfect and have issues raising their own kids without the burdens and obstacles of racism and discrimination but they claim to know how to raise black children?
I'm still confused.

PREACH!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jerry Sandusky was such a stand up guy.
Blacks parents could learn a lot from guys like him.

Oh and don't forget about great gals like Andrea Yates and Susan Smith and Casey Anthony. Blacks could learn a lot about parenting from them!

Totally!

I think Andrea Yates suffered from extreme PPD. Her husband was weird and controlling, too.

Ah, the convenient white criminal with a mental disorder trick. It never gets old.

Well, there was the African American woman in DC who killed her four kids. She was mentally ill.

Nah, she was acting white

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Anonymous wrote:I think Bill Cosby isn't all wrong -- 50 yrs ago AAs fought to integrate schools. The parents in those families had respectable jobs -- they worked hard at whatever jobs they could find and emphasized the value of education to their kids. They faced discrimination and I'm sure hated it, but they accepted it and dealt with it as best they could and hoped for something better for their kids. That generation could have made more excuses -- their lives growing up were far worse; they were closer in time to their ancestors in slavery, they were still dealing with "colored" everything. Yet they chose to deal and move past.

Now a few generations later -- things are "easier." I'm not suggesting there isn't racism, but AA kids at least have access to schools. Yet across the board, AA kids are always the lowest for everything (NOT YOUR KID but across the board) -- lowest achievement, lowest HS grad rate, lowest college attendance, lowest college grad rate. They yell and scream about racism and slavery holding them back -- being several generations removed from it; their grandparents and great grandparents made more of themselves with far fewer opportunities.

And while they're complaining about what's holding them back, they have enough time and energy to pick up the thug culture. From pants half way down the ass to the language, gang signs (whether in a gang or not), and weapons.

Sorry but all the successful of AA families I know have distanced themselves from the majority of AAs out there; that is the only way to get ahead -- not bc you won't still face discrimination -- but bc you will still keep pushing forward bc you won't be pulled into the vortex of "the world is unfair, why you try -- let's just blame EVERYTHING on racism."

Very well said.

+2

Exactly!

Have successful whites distanced themselves from their poor, backwards, criminal rural relatives?

YES! Most people from other races and ethnicities have the common sense to distance themselves from the lower class and criminal elements within their families. AAs and "some" Latinos don't do it and it hurts them tremendously.

Yes. I know quite a few successful white families in DC that don't have much to do with their extended families, cousins and sometimes even parents back home in rural wherever. Often times they don't want judgment about -- oh why are you sending your kid to fancy private school or oh you think your kid is too good for Franklin Community College back home in Tenn?! They choose to live their own lives, raise kids how they want, and meet up with their families a few days a yr at Christmas or whenever. I think AAs and Latios don't do this as much -- even when family is dragging them down or stomping on or mocking their dreams. Even Obama has sad it -- a black boy reading a book is mocked for being white. Yeah that mocking may come from school, but don't kid yourself it's also coming from uncles and cousins who are making fun of him for being a geek because he aspires to be a dr. rather than an NFL star.

+1

This is unfortunately true! The crabs in the barrel mentalities are extremely pervasive in both the black and Latino communities. I work in social services and I see this all the time. It's quite disturbing. So much abuse occurs when a child is perceived as "acting white" within their household.

You're full of shit. I was an honor roll student in school and was never picked on. Neither were my friends. Neither are my children and their friends. There's a difference between being smart and being a nerd and nerds DO get picked on. That's not anything new and it's damn sure not a black only thing. In fact, aren't many of the school shootings perpetrated by whites teens about being picked on?

That's great that your community is supportive of good grades and college, but you have to admit that that is not the case for the AA community across the board. I have worked part-time office jobs as a student where the offices were predominately black -- in Philadelphia; I will say that at least 50% of the women working there mocked the idea of going to college and thought it was an unnecessary activity that doesn't "get you anything." The other 50% were diligently planning and saving so that their kids would in fact go to college. Problem is that 50% of women who didn't care about education-- mostly single moms-- likely took their attitudes home. Even if they didn't say to their sons "there is no need to go to college," kids are not stupid; they realize that when they bring home an A in science, mom shrugs. When they score a touchdown, mom brags to the whole world. They realize that if they say they want to be an engineer, mom won't be as proud as if they want to be an NBA star. And this doesn't account for all the uncles, cousins etc. who mock boys in different ways for being geeks etc.

While your personal experience may be different, the preceding was my experience. And unless Obama, Sharpton, and Bill Cosby are lying -- there is something to the whole "black boys reading a book are acting white."

And before you jump all over me arguing -- so what not every black person is the same. It is not about individual people but about community attitude. I know lots of Asian communities -- from wealthy Indian who came here with advanced degrees to poor Bangladeshi taxi drivers with no education who are trying to make ends meet. Let me tell you that in NONE of those communities is there mocking when a kid wants to be a dr. I have known poor immigrant parents who knew that there was no way they could put a kid through 4 yr college plus med school or even co sign for a loan, BUT when their kids said they wanted to be doctors -- they encouraged the hard work and straight As. Their thinking was -- if they do well in high school, maybe they'll still never get to med school but maybe it'll be good enough to be in the healthcare field somehow even if just a 2 yr program to be an ultrasound tech where they'll have a steady salary plus benefits. Across the board, AAs just don't think like that. It's much more about -- oh my baby will be the 1 out of 10 million who gets drafted to the NBA with a few million dollar contract and then we'll all live large. Again -- community attitudes -- not saying any one family is like this.

[Anonymous]

Hey if I became a cuckold and got off watching my wife with sleep with other men would I be "acting white"?
Do white parents teach that to their sons?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jerry Sandusky was such a stand up guy.
Blacks parents could learn a lot from guys like him.

I don't think anyone is saying that all white people are exemplary.

There is no doubt that our society and especially the judicial system is racist against blacks. I think being black in this country is hard (I am Asian). Blacks do definitely get the brunt of most of the racism around the world. Years of instituted slavery, families torn apart, not being allowed to be educated or even if you were, couldn't get a good job probably would hamper most cultures.

However, I think it is true that the black community in the US does not help itself as much as it could. I'm not saying it would be easy. How do you go about changing 200 yrs of a certain culture. But I don't see Al Sharpton and the likes shouting "we must change our culture to value education more than sports or music". It would be a good start if such leaders would indeed lead the way.

And I don't think black culture is all about violence. A lot of them do value family, going to church, etc...

IDK - this country is definitely unique because of its history with slavery. Other European countries had slavery but it was usually limited to the islands and not in the actual home country on the Continent or the UK, so its people and culture weren't as affected by slavery as the US is.

You're not looking hard enough. Sharpton has done this.

But if he has, it's not loud and frequent enough. Or it's falling a deaf ears.

Yes, but you asserted that he doesn't even do it. Now, you say it's not enough. Even more, you seem to think that what he says has some sway with black people. It doesn't. No more than you follow the words of wisdom from Rush Limbaugh.

Admittedly, I don't pay attention to what Sharpton says. He mostly sounds like an idiot to me. However, if he has no sway with black people, then who does? The athlete and the musician, I'm guessing, which goes back to my point about the lack of black leaders pushing education.

BTW - I stated I'm Asian, and I think RL is a big fat idiot, too.

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Anonymous wrote:I think Bill Cosby isn't all wrong -- 50 yrs ago AAs fought to integrate schools. The parents in those families had respectable jobs -- they worked hard at whatever jobs they could find and emphasized the value of education to their kids. They faced discrimination and I'm sure hated it, but they accepted it and dealt with it as best they could and hoped for something better for their kids. That generation could have made more excuses -- their lives growing up were far worse; they were closer in time to their ancestors in slavery, they were still dealing with "colored" everything. Yet they chose to deal and move past.

Now a few generations later -- things are "easier." I'm not suggesting there isn't racism, but AA kids at least have access to schools. Yet across the board, AA kids are always the lowest for everything (NOT YOUR KID but across the board) -- lowest achievement, lowest HS grad rate, lowest college attendance, lowest college grad rate. They yell and scream about racism and slavery holding them back -- being several generations removed from it; their grandparents and great grandparents made more of themselves with far fewer opportunities.

And while they're complaining about what's holding them back, they have enough time and energy to pick up the thug culture. From pants half way down the ass to the language, gang signs (whether in a gang or not), and weapons.

Sorry but all the successful of AA families I know have distanced themselves from the majority of AAs out there; that is the only way to get ahead -- not bc you won't still face discrimination -- but bc you will still keep pushing forward bc you won't be pulled into the vortex of "the world is unfair, why you try -- let's just blame EVERYTHING on racism."

Very well said.

+2

Exactly!

Have successful whites distanced themselves from their poor, backwards, criminal rural relatives?

YES! Most people from other races and ethnicities have the common sense to distance themselves from the lower class and criminal elements within their families. AAs and "some" Latinos don't do it and it hurts them tremendously.

Yes. I know quite a few successful white families in DC that don't have much to do with their extended families, cousins and sometimes even parents back home in rural wherever. Often times they don't want judgment about -- oh why are you sending your kid to fancy private school or oh you think your kid is too good for Franklin Community College back home in Tenn?! They choose to live their own lives, raise kids how they want, and meet up with their families a few days a yr at Christmas or whenever. I think AAs and Latios don't do this as much -- even when family is dragging them down or stomping on or mocking their dreams. Even Obama has sad it -- a black boy reading a book is mocked for being white. Yeah that mocking may come from school, but don't kid yourself it's also coming from uncles and cousins who are making fun of him for being a geek because he aspires to be a dr. rather than an NFL star.

+1

This is unfortunately true! The crabs in the barrel mentalities are extremely pervasive in both the black and Latino communities. I work in social services and I see this all the time. It's quite disturbing. So much abuse occurs when a child is perceived as "acting white" within their household.

You're full of shit. I was an honor roll student in school and was never picked on. Neither were my friends. Neither are my children and their friends. There's a difference between being smart and being a nerd and nerds DO get picked on. That's not anything new and it's damn sure not a black only thing. In fact, aren't many of the school shootings perpetrated by whites teens about being picked on?

That's great that your community is supportive of good grades and college, but you have to admit that that is not the case for the AA community across the board. I have worked part-time office jobs as a student where the offices were predominately black -- in Philadelphia; I will say that at least 50% of the women working there mocked the idea of going to college and thought it was an unnecessary activity that doesn't "get you anything." The other 50% were diligently planning and saving so that their kids would in fact go to college. Problem is that 50% of women who didn't care about education-- mostly single moms-- likely took their attitudes home. Even if they didn't say to their sons "there is no need to go to college," kids are not stupid; they realize that when they bring home an A in science, mom shrugs. When they score a touchdown, mom brags to the whole world. They realize that if they say they want to be an engineer, mom won't be as proud as if they want to be an NBA star. And this doesn't account for all the uncles, cousins etc. who mock boys in different ways for being geeks etc.

While your personal experience may be different, the preceding was my experience. And unless Obama, Sharpton, and Bill Cosby are lying -- there is something to the whole "black boys reading a book are acting white."

And before you jump all over me arguing -- so what not every black person is the same. It is not about individual people but about community attitude. I know lots of Asian communities -- from wealthy Indian who came here with advanced degrees to poor Bangladeshi taxi drivers with no education who are trying to make ends meet. Let me tell you that in NONE of those communities is there mocking when a kid wants to be a dr. I have known poor immigrant parents who knew that there was no way they could put a kid through 4 yr college plus med school or even co sign for a loan, BUT when their kids said they wanted to be doctors -- they encouraged the hard work and straight As. Their thinking was -- if they do well in high school, maybe they'll still never get to med school but maybe it'll be good enough to be in the healthcare field somehow even if just a 2 yr program to be an ultrasound tech where they'll have a steady salary plus benefits. Across the board, AAs just don't think like that. It's much more about -- oh my baby will be the 1 out of 10 million who gets drafted to the NBA with a few million dollar contract and then we'll all live large. Again -- community attitudes -- not saying any one family is like this.

Working in an office with some black folk does not make you an expert on black people
STFU already
You
Sound
Stupid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Bill Cosby isn't all wrong -- 50 yrs ago AAs fought to integrate schools. The parents in those families had respectable jobs -- they worked hard at whatever jobs they could find and emphasized the value of education to their kids. They faced discrimination and I'm sure hated it, but they accepted it and dealt with it as best they could and hoped for something better for their kids. That generation could have made more excuses -- their lives growing up were far worse; they were closer in time to their ancestors in slavery, they were still dealing with "colored" everything. Yet they chose to deal and move past.

Now a few generations later -- things are "easier." I'm not suggesting there isn't racism, but AA kids at least have access to schools. Yet across the board, AA kids are always the lowest for everything (NOT YOUR KID but across the board) -- lowest achievement, lowest HS grad rate, lowest college attendance, lowest college grad rate. They yell and scream about racism and slavery holding them back -- being several generations removed from it; their grandparents and great grandparents made more of themselves with far fewer opportunities.

And while they're complaining about what's holding them back, they have enough time and energy to pick up the thug culture. From pants half way down the ass to the language, gang signs (whether in a gang or not), and weapons.

Sorry but all the successful of AA families I know have distanced themselves from the majority of AAs out there; that is the only way to get ahead -- not bc you won't still face discrimination -- but bc you will still keep pushing forward bc you won't be pulled into the vortex of "the world is unfair, why you try -- let's just blame EVERYTHING on racism."

Very well said.

+2

Exactly!

Have successful whites distanced themselves from their poor, backwards, criminal rural relatives?

YES! Most people from other races and ethnicities have the common sense to distance themselves from the lower class and criminal elements within their families. AAs and "some" Latinos don't do it and it hurts them tremendously.

Yes. I know quite a few successful white families in DC that don't have much to do with their extended families, cousins and sometimes even parents back home in rural wherever. Often times they don't want judgment about -- oh why are you sending your kid to fancy private school or oh you think your kid is too good for Franklin Community College back home in Tenn?! They choose to live their own lives, raise kids how they want, and meet up with their families a few days a yr at Christmas or whenever. I think AAs and Latios don't do this as much -- even when family is dragging them down or stomping on or mocking their dreams. Even Obama has sad it -- a black boy reading a book is mocked for being white. Yeah that mocking may come from school, but don't kid yourself it's also coming from uncles and cousins who are making fun of him for being a geek because he aspires to be a dr. rather than an NFL star.

+1

This is unfortunately true! The crabs in the barrel mentalities are extremely pervasive in both the black and Latino communities. I work in social services and I see this all the time. It's quite disturbing. So much abuse occurs when a child is perceived as "acting white" within their household.

You're full of shit. I was an honor roll student in school and was never picked on. Neither were my friends. Neither are my children and their friends. There's a difference between being smart and being a nerd and nerds DO get picked on. That's not anything new and it's damn sure not a black only thing. In fact, aren't many of the school shootings perpetrated by whites teens about being picked on?

That's great that your community is supportive of good grades and college, but you have to admit that that is not the case for the AA community across the board. I have worked part-time office jobs as a student where the offices were predominately black -- in Philadelphia; I will say that at least 50% of the women working there mocked the idea of going to college and thought it was an unnecessary activity that doesn't "get you anything." The other 50% were diligently planning and saving so that their kids would in fact go to college. Problem is that 50% of women who didn't care about education-- mostly single moms-- likely took their attitudes home. Even if they didn't say to their sons "there is no need to go to college," kids are not stupid; they realize that when they bring home an A in science, mom shrugs. When they score a touchdown, mom brags to the whole world. They realize that if they say they want to be an engineer, mom won't be as proud as if they want to be an NBA star. And this doesn't account for all the uncles, cousins etc. who mock boys in different ways for being geeks etc.

While your personal experience may be different, the preceding was my experience. And unless Obama, Sharpton, and Bill Cosby are lying -- there is something to the whole "black boys reading a book are acting white."

And before you jump all over me arguing -- so what not every black person is the same. It is not about individual people but about community attitude. I know lots of Asian communities -- from wealthy Indian who came here with advanced degrees to poor Bangladeshi taxi drivers with no education who are trying to make ends meet. Let me tell you that in NONE of those communities is there mocking when a kid wants to be a dr. I have known poor immigrant parents who knew that there was no way they could put a kid through 4 yr college plus med school or even co sign for a loan, BUT when their kids said they wanted to be doctors -- they encouraged the hard work and straight As. Their thinking was -- if they do well in high school, maybe they'll still never get to med school but maybe it'll be good enough to be in the healthcare field somehow even if just a 2 yr program to be an ultrasound tech where they'll have a steady salary plus benefits. Across the board, AAs just don't think like that. It's much more about -- oh my baby will be the 1 out of 10 million who gets drafted to the NBA with a few million dollar contract and then we'll all live large. Again -- community attitudes -- not saying any one family is like this.

I grew up in the projects of SE, DC. In the 80's. My experience flies in the face of everything you're saying.

How is your experience with blacks and education different from poor rural whites who think that college is elitism? Rather than a black/white thing, shunning education is sometimes a poor AMERICAN thing. Why the focus on black people?

Also re: sports. You have white people who are just as obsessed with their sons and football. It is their life. The kids are groomed to become NFL players. Again, why the focus on blacks?

You see what you want to see. From your post, it's clear you don't much about black people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think Bill Cosby isn't all wrong -- 50 yrs ago AAs fought to integrate schools. The parents in those families had respectable jobs -- they worked hard at whatever jobs they could find and emphasized the value of education to their kids. They faced discrimination and I'm sure hated it, but they accepted it and dealt with it as best they could and hoped for something better for their kids. That generation could have made more excuses -- their lives growing up were far worse; they were closer in time to their ancestors in slavery, they were still dealing with "colored" everything. Yet they chose to deal and move past.

Now a few generations later -- things are "easier." I'm not suggesting there isn't racism, but AA kids at least have access to schools. Yet across the board, AA kids are always the lowest for everything (NOT YOUR KID but across the board) -- lowest achievement, lowest HS grad rate, lowest college attendance, lowest college grad rate. They yell and scream about racism and slavery holding them back -- being several generations removed from it; their grandparents and great grandparents made more of themselves with far fewer opportunities.

And while they're complaining about what's holding them back, they have enough time and energy to pick up the thug culture. From pants half way down the ass to the language, gang signs (whether in a gang or not), and weapons.

Sorry but all the successful of AA families I know have distanced themselves from the majority of AAs out there; that is the only way to get ahead -- not bc you won't still face discrimination -- but bc you will still keep pushing forward bc you won't be pulled into the vortex of "the world is unfair, why you try -- let's just blame EVERYTHING on racism."

Very well said.

+2

Exactly!

Have successful whites distanced themselves from their poor, backwards, criminal rural relatives?

YES! Most people from other races and ethnicities have the common sense to distance themselves from the lower class and criminal elements within their families. AAs and "some" Latinos don't do it and it hurts them tremendously.

Yes. I know quite a few successful white families in DC that don't have much to do with their extended families, cousins and sometimes even parents back home in rural wherever. Often times they don't want judgment about -- oh why are you sending your kid to fancy private school or oh you think your kid is too good for Franklin Community College back home in Tenn?! They choose to live their own lives, raise kids how they want, and meet up with their families a few days a yr at Christmas or whenever. I think AAs and Latios don't do this as much -- even when family is dragging them down or stomping on or mocking their dreams. Even Obama has sad it -- a black boy reading a book is mocked for being white. Yeah that mocking may come from school, but don't kid yourself it's also coming from uncles and cousins who are making fun of him for being a geek because he aspires to be a dr. rather than an NFL star.

+1

This is unfortunately true! The crabs in the barrel mentalities are extremely pervasive in both the black and Latino communities. I work in social services and I see this all the time. It's quite disturbing. So much abuse occurs when a child is perceived as "acting white" within their household.

You're full of shit. I was an honor roll student in school and was never picked on. Neither were my friends. Neither are my children and their friends. There's a difference between being smart and being a nerd and nerds DO get picked on. That's not anything new and it's damn sure not a black only thing. In fact, aren't many of the school shootings perpetrated by whites teens about being picked on?

That's great that your community is supportive of good grades and college, but you have to admit that that is not the case for the AA community across the board. I have worked part-time office jobs as a student where the offices were predominately black -- in Philadelphia; I will say that at least 50% of the women working there mocked the idea of going to college and thought it was an unnecessary activity that doesn't "get you anything." The other 50% were diligently planning and saving so that their kids would in fact go to college. Problem is that 50% of women who didn't care about education-- mostly single moms-- likely took their attitudes home. Even if they didn't say to their sons "there is no need to go to college," kids are not stupid; they realize that when they bring home an A in science, mom shrugs. When they score a touchdown, mom brags to the whole world. They realize that if they say they want to be an engineer, mom won't be as proud as if they want to be an NBA star. And this doesn't account for all the uncles, cousins etc. who mock boys in different ways for being geeks etc.

While your personal experience may be different, the preceding was my experience. And unless Obama, Sharpton, and Bill Cosby are lying -- there is something to the whole "black boys reading a book are acting white."

And before you jump all over me arguing -- so what not every black person is the same. It is not about individual people but about community attitude. I know lots of Asian communities -- from wealthy Indian who came here with advanced degrees to poor Bangladeshi taxi drivers with no education who are trying to make ends meet. Let me tell you that in NONE of those communities is there mocking when a kid wants to be a dr. I have known poor immigrant parents who knew that there was no way they could put a kid through 4 yr college plus med school or even co sign for a loan, BUT when their kids said they wanted to be doctors -- they encouraged the hard work and straight As. Their thinking was -- if they do well in high school, maybe they'll still never get to med school but maybe it'll be good enough to be in the healthcare field somehow even if just a 2 yr program to be an ultrasound tech where they'll have a steady salary plus benefits. Across the board, AAs just don't think like that. It's much more about -- oh my baby will be the 1 out of 10 million who gets drafted to the NBA with a few million dollar contract and then we'll all live large. Again -- community attitudes -- not saying any one family is like this.

Working in an office with some black folk does not make you an expert on black people
STFU already
You
Sound
Stupid

Nothing makes anyone an expert because you simply DON'T WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH. So I'm wrong. Obama is wrong. Sharpton is wrong. Cosby is wrong. Yep -- anyone criticizing AAs must be wrong.

[Anonymous]

20:40 you state that 50% of the black people you work with save for their children's college. The other 50% do not and do not think it is the best investment for their children. Are you telling me that 100% of white folks in America save for their children to attend college and 100% believe college is a good investment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jerry Sandusky was such a stand up guy.
Blacks parents could learn a lot from guys like him.

I don't think anyone is saying that all white people are exemplary.

There is no doubt that our society and especially the judicial system is racist against blacks. I think being black in this country is hard (I am Asian). Blacks do definitely get the brunt of most of the racism around the world. Years of instituted slavery, families torn apart, not being allowed to be educated or even if you were, couldn't get a good job probably would hamper most cultures.

However, I think it is true that the black community in the US does not help itself as much as it could. I'm not saying it would be easy. How do you go about changing 200 yrs of a certain culture. But I don't see Al Sharpton and the likes shouting "we must change our culture to value education more than sports or music". It would be a good start if such leaders would indeed lead the way.

And I don't think black culture is all about violence. A lot of them do value family, going to church, etc...

IDK - this country is definitely unique because of its history with slavery. Other European countries had slavery but it was usually limited to the islands and not in the actual home country on the Continent or the UK, so its people and culture weren't as affected by slavery as the US is.

You're not looking hard enough. Sharpton has done this.

But if he has, it's not loud and frequent enough. Or it's falling a deaf ears.

Yes, but you asserted that he doesn't even do it. Now, you say it's not enough. Even more, you seem to think that what he says has some sway with black people. It doesn't. No more than you follow the words of wisdom from Rush Limbaugh.

Admittedly, I don't pay attention to what Sharpton says. He mostly sounds like an idiot to me. However, if he has no sway with black people, then who does? The athlete and the musician, I'm guessing, which goes back to my point about the lack of black leaders pushing education.

BTW - I stated I'm Asian, and I think RL is a big fat idiot, too.

Who has sway with the Asians?

[Anonymous]

Who are your Asian leaders in USA, and which Group of Asians?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jerry Sandusky was such a stand up guy.
Blacks parents could learn a lot from guys like him.

I don't think anyone is saying that all white people are exemplary.

There is no doubt that our society and especially the judicial system is racist against blacks. I think being black in this country is hard (I am Asian). Blacks do definitely get the brunt of most of the racism around the world. Years of instituted slavery, families torn apart, not being allowed to be educated or even if you were, couldn't get a good job probably would hamper most cultures.

However, I think it is true that the black community in the US does not help itself as much as it could. I'm not saying it would be easy. How do you go about changing 200 yrs of a certain culture. But I don't see Al Sharpton and the likes shouting "we must change our culture to value education more than sports or music". It would be a good start if such leaders would indeed lead the way.

And I don't think black culture is all about violence. A lot of them do value family, going to church, etc...

IDK - this country is definitely unique because of its history with slavery. Other European countries had slavery but it was usually limited to the islands and not in the actual home country on the Continent or the UK, so its people and culture weren't as affected by slavery as the US is.

You're not looking hard enough. Sharpton has done this.

But if he has, it's not loud and frequent enough. Or it's falling a deaf ears.

Yes, but you asserted that he doesn't even do it. Now, you say it's not enough. Even more, you seem to think that what he says has some sway with black people. It doesn't. No more than you follow the words of wisdom from Rush Limbaugh.

Admittedly, I don't pay attention to what Sharpton says. He mostly sounds like an idiot to me. However, if he has no sway with black people, then who does? The athlete and the musician, I'm guessing, which goes back to my point about the lack of black leaders pushing education.

BTW - I stated I'm Asian, and I think RL is a big fat idiot, too.

Why do you seem to think that black people need a leader? As if we're all sheeple looking for someone to follow. This idea that we need people to tell us what to do is HIHGLY insulting. Can you see that? Do you look to Jackie Chan for words to live by?

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Hmmm...now we're saying that not every black person is the same but nonetheless the entire black community is homogeneous and that ALL blacks regardless of their socioeconomic class or educational backgrounds or religious beliefs are one singular community with fixed values and ethics and attitudes.
Amazing. I never knew millions of people of seemingly varied interests and environments could be so lacking in diversity.