Strategy after Capital Tryouts - 2030?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why a Capital/club director coach spamming this board boastfully listing Ivies? The question is about what are your best options if your daughter doesn't make Capital.

If you don’t make Capital, go to a MD club.

M&D
HG
SW
MDU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cap has been the only real program in a talent rich area, of course they will have recruiting success. My contention has always been that the program has had very little to do with that success other than being the only game in town to pool top talent. The coaches aren’t great usually, the admin is a joke, and the recruiting apparatus is almost nonexistent.

Cap blue 27 just had a wonderful recruiting cycle, but most parents would tell you that the club did very little to make it happen. Look at the bottom of the roster kids, they committed to places like Monmouth, Kennesaw State, F&M, and Denison. Good for them and they will have a great time, but if the cap program had that much pull, those kids would probably have been able to play at better programs.

Former Capital Blue parent here and my daughter wouldn’t be where she is at one of these schools were it not for the club. On breaks during my daughter’s games during her recruiting season, I would often walk the tournament fields and regularly saw lower ranked teams with few to no coaches on the sidelines. At Capital games, coaches would swarm the recruiting tents to watch our team play. That doesn’t just happen randomly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cap has been the only real program in a talent rich area, of course they will have recruiting success. My contention has always been that the program has had very little to do with that success other than being the only game in town to pool top talent. The coaches aren’t great usually, the admin is a joke, and the recruiting apparatus is almost nonexistent.

Cap blue 27 just had a wonderful recruiting cycle, but most parents would tell you that the club did very little to make it happen. Look at the bottom of the roster kids, they committed to places like Monmouth, Kennesaw State, F&M, and Denison. Good for them and they will have a great time, but if the cap program had that much pull, those kids would probably have been able to play at better programs.

Then by your logic every player on M&D Black, ranked #1 for the 27s, should be going to top 25 programs - except they have commits going to UMBC, ASU, Hofstra, Jacksonville, South Florida, Old Dominion University, and Mount Saint Mary.

Why?

Same for Hero’s Green, ranked #3, who has players going to Hofstra, Delaware, Vermont, Towson and Cinci.

These are the top ranked programs in the country. Why aren’t they all going higher?

The answer, of course, is that there is a natural separation of talent on every team. Club reputations and relationships draw coaches, player performances determine where they go.

[Anonymous]

Don’t forget that different people are looking for different things in their recruiting process. Some are looking for schools where they can get scholarships to minimize college costs, others don’t care about money and are just looking for the best academics possible or the best lacrosse program possible. Just because a person accepts an offer at a lower level lacrosse program doesn’t mean they couldn’t get an offer somewhere else. It may have been the best financial offer available, which is success for that family and ultimately the club program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why a Capital/club director coach spamming this board boastfully listing Ivies? The question is about what are your best options if your daughter doesn't make Capital.

If you don’t make Capital, go to a MD club.

M&D
HG
SW
MDU

MDU? This is a joke

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why a Capital/club director coach spamming this board boastfully listing Ivies? The question is about what are your best options if your daughter doesn't make Capital.

If you don’t make Capital, go to a MD club.

M&D
HG
SW
MDU

Trying out for these clubs makes sense however it is more likley that any roster spot would be on one of the B Teams (M&D Red, Hero's White, Skywalkers White, etc.) which I am not knocking in any way.

How much better is an MD based B Team than M&D DC Black, YJ DMV, etc. or whatever DC area club the remaining talent ends up going to (Stars and Pride both want to have high school teams and could still be in the mix)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cap has been the only real program in a talent rich area, of course they will have recruiting success. My contention has always been that the program has had very little to do with that success other than being the only game in town to pool top talent. The coaches aren’t great usually, the admin is a joke, and the recruiting apparatus is almost nonexistent.

Cap blue 27 just had a wonderful recruiting cycle, but most parents would tell you that the club did very little to make it happen. Look at the bottom of the roster kids, they committed to places like Monmouth, Kennesaw State, F&M, and Denison. Good for them and they will have a great time, but if the cap program had that much pull, those kids would probably have been able to play at better programs.

Former Capital Blue parent here and my daughter wouldn’t be where she is at one of these schools were it not for the club. On breaks during my daughter’s games during her recruiting season, I would often walk the tournament fields and regularly saw lower ranked teams with few to no coaches on the sidelines. At Capital games, coaches would swarm the recruiting tents to watch our team play. That doesn’t just happen randomly.

The coaches were there bc cap blue is the collection of the best DC talent generally. They weren’t there bc of a connection with the club or its recruiting director. That is my point. So yes, your kid got exposure being on a great team, but what did the admin or recruiting director do specifically?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cap has been the only real program in a talent rich area, of course they will have recruiting success. My contention has always been that the program has had very little to do with that success other than being the only game in town to pool top talent. The coaches aren’t great usually, the admin is a joke, and the recruiting apparatus is almost nonexistent.

Cap blue 27 just had a wonderful recruiting cycle, but most parents would tell you that the club did very little to make it happen. Look at the bottom of the roster kids, they committed to places like Monmouth, Kennesaw State, F&M, and Denison. Good for them and they will have a great time, but if the cap program had that much pull, those kids would probably have been able to play at better programs.

Then by your logic every player on M&D Black, ranked #1 for the 27s, should be going to top 25 programs - except they have commits going to UMBC, ASU, Hofstra, Jacksonville, South Florida, Old Dominion University, and Mount Saint Mary.

Why?

Same for Hero’s Green, ranked #3, who has players going to Hofstra, Delaware, Vermont, Towson and Cinci.

These are the top ranked programs in the country. Why aren’t they all going higher?

The answer, of course, is that there is a natural separation of talent on every team. Club reputations and relationships draw coaches, player performances determine where they go.

That’s not my logic at all. Of course there is a lower tier of player on any given team, and no club or recruiting director is going to get every kid on to a top 25 program. The kid’s talent and hard work gets them there and the club provides a platform for them to show themselves. I am just countering the people acting like the cap blue program has some magic formula for recruiting success, when in reality it is just a talent rich area with very little local competition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we ban the dude who incessantly posts Caps recruiting results list at every fricking opportunity. Seek help dude. It’s not too late. Arguably.

Its somebody that works for Capital promoting their brand

Absolutely not. They still have a picture of their 2022 team on the website. No branding support will ever be forthcoming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why a Capital/club director coach spamming this board boastfully listing Ivies? The question is about what are your best options if your daughter doesn't make Capital.

If you don’t make Capital, go to a MD club.

M&D
HG
SW
MDU

lol. If you don’t make Capital you are not making M&D, HG and probably not SW

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why a Capital/club director coach spamming this board boastfully listing Ivies? The question is about what are your best options if your daughter doesn't make Capital.

If you don’t make Capital, go to a MD club.

M&D
HG
SW
MDU

lol. If you don’t make Capital you are not making M&D, HG and probably not SW

^ this. those clubs have already reached out to girls they are interested in. If you havent heard from them, and you dont make capital, dont bother unless you are okay to be on B team

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why a Capital/club director coach spamming this board boastfully listing Ivies? The question is about what are your best options if your daughter doesn't make Capital.

If you don’t make Capital, go to a MD club.

M&D
HG
SW
MDU

Do you mean to a B-team for one of these clubs? If you don't make Capital Orange, you may have a shot at M&D Red or Hero's or Sky Walkers White, but if you don't make Capital Blue, you have no shot of making the A-team for those clubs. Not sure about MDU given the turnover.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cap has been the only real program in a talent rich area, of course they will have recruiting success. My contention has always been that the program has had very little to do with that success other than being the only game in town to pool top talent. The coaches aren’t great usually, the admin is a joke, and the recruiting apparatus is almost nonexistent.

Cap blue 27 just had a wonderful recruiting cycle, but most parents would tell you that the club did very little to make it happen. Look at the bottom of the roster kids, they committed to places like Monmouth, Kennesaw State, F&M, and Denison. Good for them and they will have a great time, but if the cap program had that much pull, those kids would probably have been able to play at better programs.

Then by your logic every player on M&D Black, ranked #1 for the 27s, should be going to top 25 programs - except they have commits going to UMBC, ASU, Hofstra, Jacksonville, South Florida, Old Dominion University, and Mount Saint Mary.

Why?

Same for Hero’s Green, ranked #3, who has players going to Hofstra, Delaware, Vermont, Towson and Cinci.

These are the top ranked programs in the country. Why aren’t they all going higher?

The answer, of course, is that there is a natural separation of talent on every team. Club reputations and relationships draw coaches, player performances determine where they go.

This is cold hard truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cap has been the only real program in a talent rich area, of course they will have recruiting success. My contention has always been that the program has had very little to do with that success other than being the only game in town to pool top talent. The coaches aren’t great usually, the admin is a joke, and the recruiting apparatus is almost nonexistent.

Cap blue 27 just had a wonderful recruiting cycle, but most parents would tell you that the club did very little to make it happen. Look at the bottom of the roster kids, they committed to places like Monmouth, Kennesaw State, F&M, and Denison. Good for them and they will have a great time, but if the cap program had that much pull, those kids would probably have been able to play at better programs.

Then by your logic every player on M&D Black, ranked #1 for the 27s, should be going to top 25 programs - except they have commits going to UMBC, ASU, Hofstra, Jacksonville, South Florida, Old Dominion University, and Mount Saint Mary.

Why?

Same for Hero’s Green, ranked #3, who has players going to Hofstra, Delaware, Vermont, Towson and Cinci.

These are the top ranked programs in the country. Why aren’t they all going higher?

The answer, of course, is that there is a natural separation of talent on every team. Club reputations and relationships draw coaches, player performances determine where they go.

This is cold hard truth.

Bottom line is club brand matters and many of those kids were overrecruited, which is the only thing you can really want from your club, get your kid to their ceiling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From what I've heard YJ DMV and YJ VA 2030 are all staying together. So that's a great option.

Untrue. YJ DMV is a dumpster fire! Team will fold.