How are your Aug-Dec kids doing re:offers?

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Anonymous wrote:While this does affect a few, many don't really care about this debate (other than people are treated fairly). Many more DO/did like talking about offers to share information. Sigh.

Well, past the time for a funeral dirge on this thread.

Swing low, sweet chariot ...

This directly affects how teams will be rostered this fall.

If clubs want wins and dont care about player development Aug birthdays will be rostered on one team.

If clubs do care about player development and want to keep teams together long term Aug birthdays will be rostered on a different team.

What type of club is your kid participating in?

Why just attack August kids? What about September kids?

And the PP is right so few kids are in this situation that clubs can handle case by case, like they say around here.

All these years January and February kids aren't a thing, but now August and September kids need their own league and rules

Flaming pile of manure nonsense

Its because in BY grade doesnt apply.

Thinking it grade came into the rules in the switch from BY to SY is delusional.

Okay, so if grade has nothing to do with the new rules, why call it SY?

“School year” and “grade” are not equivalent categories. One is a time frame. The other is an academic placement. They overlap culturally, but they are not the same thing.

“SY” is simply a tag for the new registration window: August 1 through July 31. That’s it. It’s a clean data set. A standardized 12-month block that leagues can organize around.

Think of it like fiscal year versus calendar year. No one believes a fiscal year defines when the sun rises. It’s just a framework for accounting. Same principle here. SY isn’t redefining grade. It’s defining a uniform operational window.

The confusion happens because in youth sports we’ve historically blurred grade, birth year, and team placement as if they’re interchangeable. They’re not. Grade is academic progression. Birth year is biological timing. SY is an administrative cycle.

Why call it SY at all? Because leagues need a consistent reference point that aligns with how families already think about seasonal transitions. August to July mirrors the rhythm of a school calendar without being the same thing. It’s a scheduling spine, not a developmental philosophy.

So if grade has nothing to do with the rule itself, calling it SY doesn’t contradict that. SY names the time block. Grade remains an academic marker. Team placement remains a developmental decision.

Administrative clarity and player development are two different conversations. Mixing them creates noise. Separating them creates better decisions for kids.

This logical factual explanation is wasted on the recipient

The issue is if you bring College Recuiting into the mix Graduating Year (grade in school) becomes part of the equation. Like it or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are your Aug-Dec kids doing re:offers?

We haven't been provided official offers (not NVA) but it's going to get really interesting soon because top teams nationally and the team below my kid has 8 Aug-Dec starters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While this does affect a few, many don't really care about this debate (other than people are treated fairly). Many more DO/did like talking about offers to share information. Sigh.

Well, past the time for a funeral dirge on this thread.

Swing low, sweet chariot ...

This directly affects how teams will be rostered this fall.

If clubs want wins and dont care about player development Aug birthdays will be rostered on one team.

If clubs do care about player development and want to keep teams together long term Aug birthdays will be rostered on a different team.

What type of club is your kid participating in?

Why just attack August kids? What about September kids?

And the PP is right so few kids are in this situation that clubs can handle case by case, like they say around here.

All these years January and February kids aren't a thing, but now August and September kids need their own league and rules

Flaming pile of manure nonsense

Its because in BY grade doesnt apply.

Thinking it grade came into the rules in the switch from BY to SY is delusional.

Okay, so if grade has nothing to do with the new rules, why call it SY?

“School year” and “grade” are not equivalent categories. One is a time frame. The other is an academic placement. They overlap culturally, but they are not the same thing.

“SY” is simply a tag for the new registration window: August 1 through July 31. That’s it. It’s a clean data set. A standardized 12-month block that leagues can organize around.

Think of it like fiscal year versus calendar year. No one believes a fiscal year defines when the sun rises. It’s just a framework for accounting. Same principle here. SY isn’t redefining grade. It’s defining a uniform operational window.

The confusion happens because in youth sports we’ve historically blurred grade, birth year, and team placement as if they’re interchangeable. They’re not. Grade is academic progression. Birth year is biological timing. SY is an administrative cycle.

Why call it SY at all? Because leagues need a consistent reference point that aligns with how families already think about seasonal transitions. August to July mirrors the rhythm of a school calendar without being the same thing. It’s a scheduling spine, not a developmental philosophy.

So if grade has nothing to do with the rule itself, calling it SY doesn’t contradict that. SY names the time block. Grade remains an academic marker. Team placement remains a developmental decision.

Administrative clarity and player development are two different conversations. Mixing them creates noise. Separating them creates better decisions for kids.

This logical factual explanation is wasted on the recipient

The issue is if you bring College Recuiting into the mix Graduating Year (grade in school) becomes part of the equation. Like it or not.

Then why don't the MLS Club academies do grade year since they send the highest percentage of players to college teams?

England has SY, they don't group by school grades

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While this does affect a few, many don't really care about this debate (other than people are treated fairly). Many more DO/did like talking about offers to share information. Sigh.

Well, past the time for a funeral dirge on this thread.

Swing low, sweet chariot ...

This directly affects how teams will be rostered this fall.

If clubs want wins and dont care about player development Aug birthdays will be rostered on one team.

If clubs do care about player development and want to keep teams together long term Aug birthdays will be rostered on a different team.

What type of club is your kid participating in?

Why just attack August kids? What about September kids?

And the PP is right so few kids are in this situation that clubs can handle case by case, like they say around here.

All these years January and February kids aren't a thing, but now August and September kids need their own league and rules

Flaming pile of manure nonsense

Its because in BY grade doesnt apply.

Thinking it grade came into the rules in the switch from BY to SY is delusional.

Okay, so if grade has nothing to do with the new rules, why call it SY?

“School year” and “grade” are not equivalent categories. One is a time frame. The other is an academic placement. They overlap culturally, but they are not the same thing.

“SY” is simply a tag for the new registration window: August 1 through July 31. That’s it. It’s a clean data set. A standardized 12-month block that leagues can organize around.

Think of it like fiscal year versus calendar year. No one believes a fiscal year defines when the sun rises. It’s just a framework for accounting. Same principle here. SY isn’t redefining grade. It’s defining a uniform operational window.

The confusion happens because in youth sports we’ve historically blurred grade, birth year, and team placement as if they’re interchangeable. They’re not. Grade is academic progression. Birth year is biological timing. SY is an administrative cycle.

Why call it SY at all? Because leagues need a consistent reference point that aligns with how families already think about seasonal transitions. August to July mirrors the rhythm of a school calendar without being the same thing. It’s a scheduling spine, not a developmental philosophy.

So if grade has nothing to do with the rule itself, calling it SY doesn’t contradict that. SY names the time block. Grade remains an academic marker. Team placement remains a developmental decision.

Administrative clarity and player development are two different conversations. Mixing them creates noise. Separating them creates better decisions for kids.

This logical factual explanation is wasted on the recipient

The issue is if you bring College Recuiting into the mix Graduating Year (grade in school) becomes part of the equation. Like it or not.

Then why don't the MLS Club academies do grade year since they send the highest percentage of players to college teams?

England has SY, they don't group by school grades

Because college soccer doesnt exist in Europe and eveyone else is BY.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While this does affect a few, many don't really care about this debate (other than people are treated fairly). Many more DO/did like talking about offers to share information. Sigh.

Well, past the time for a funeral dirge on this thread.

Swing low, sweet chariot ...

This directly affects how teams will be rostered this fall.

If clubs want wins and dont care about player development Aug birthdays will be rostered on one team.

If clubs do care about player development and want to keep teams together long term Aug birthdays will be rostered on a different team.

What type of club is your kid participating in?

Why just attack August kids? What about September kids?

And the PP is right so few kids are in this situation that clubs can handle case by case, like they say around here.

All these years January and February kids aren't a thing, but now August and September kids need their own league and rules

Flaming pile of manure nonsense

Its because in BY grade doesnt apply.

Thinking it grade came into the rules in the switch from BY to SY is delusional.

Okay, so if grade has nothing to do with the new rules, why call it SY?

“School year” and “grade” are not equivalent categories. One is a time frame. The other is an academic placement. They overlap culturally, but they are not the same thing.

“SY” is simply a tag for the new registration window: August 1 through July 31. That’s it. It’s a clean data set. A standardized 12-month block that leagues can organize around.

Think of it like fiscal year versus calendar year. No one believes a fiscal year defines when the sun rises. It’s just a framework for accounting. Same principle here. SY isn’t redefining grade. It’s defining a uniform operational window.

The confusion happens because in youth sports we’ve historically blurred grade, birth year, and team placement as if they’re interchangeable. They’re not. Grade is academic progression. Birth year is biological timing. SY is an administrative cycle.

Why call it SY at all? Because leagues need a consistent reference point that aligns with how families already think about seasonal transitions. August to July mirrors the rhythm of a school calendar without being the same thing. It’s a scheduling spine, not a developmental philosophy.

So if grade has nothing to do with the rule itself, calling it SY doesn’t contradict that. SY names the time block. Grade remains an academic marker. Team placement remains a developmental decision.

Administrative clarity and player development are two different conversations. Mixing them creates noise. Separating them creates better decisions for kids.

This logical factual explanation is wasted on the recipient

The issue is if you bring College Recuiting into the mix Graduating Year (grade in school) becomes part of the equation. Like it or not.

Nothing says you can't play U14 as a freshman and then make the jump to U16 as a sophomore with a growth spurt. The time spent FR year starting and refining skills will pay off SOPH year. Or make that change Junior year if getting recruited is a focus.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While this does affect a few, many don't really care about this debate (other than people are treated fairly). Many more DO/did like talking about offers to share information. Sigh.

Well, past the time for a funeral dirge on this thread.

Swing low, sweet chariot ...

This directly affects how teams will be rostered this fall.

If clubs want wins and dont care about player development Aug birthdays will be rostered on one team.

If clubs do care about player development and want to keep teams together long term Aug birthdays will be rostered on a different team.

What type of club is your kid participating in?

Why just attack August kids? What about September kids?

And the PP is right so few kids are in this situation that clubs can handle case by case, like they say around here.

All these years January and February kids aren't a thing, but now August and September kids need their own league and rules

Flaming pile of manure nonsense

Its because in BY grade doesnt apply.

Thinking it grade came into the rules in the switch from BY to SY is delusional.

Okay, so if grade has nothing to do with the new rules, why call it SY?

“School year” and “grade” are not equivalent categories. One is a time frame. The other is an academic placement. They overlap culturally, but they are not the same thing.

“SY” is simply a tag for the new registration window: August 1 through July 31. That’s it. It’s a clean data set. A standardized 12-month block that leagues can organize around.

Think of it like fiscal year versus calendar year. No one believes a fiscal year defines when the sun rises. It’s just a framework for accounting. Same principle here. SY isn’t redefining grade. It’s defining a uniform operational window.

The confusion happens because in youth sports we’ve historically blurred grade, birth year, and team placement as if they’re interchangeable. They’re not. Grade is academic progression. Birth year is biological timing. SY is an administrative cycle.

Why call it SY at all? Because leagues need a consistent reference point that aligns with how families already think about seasonal transitions. August to July mirrors the rhythm of a school calendar without being the same thing. It’s a scheduling spine, not a developmental philosophy.

So if grade has nothing to do with the rule itself, calling it SY doesn’t contradict that. SY names the time block. Grade remains an academic marker. Team placement remains a developmental decision.

Administrative clarity and player development are two different conversations. Mixing them creates noise. Separating them creates better decisions for kids.

This logical factual explanation is wasted on the recipient

The issue is if you bring College Recuiting into the mix Graduating Year (grade in school) becomes part of the equation. Like it or not.

Nothing says you can't play U14 as a freshman and then make the jump to U16 as a sophomore with a growth spurt. The time spent FR year starting and refining skills will pay off SOPH year. Or make that change Junior year if getting recruited is a focus.

So you believe that playing on your kids grade in school team is the way to go for college recruiting. You just think that its not needed until High School.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While this does affect a few, many don't really care about this debate (other than people are treated fairly). Many more DO/did like talking about offers to share information. Sigh.

Well, past the time for a funeral dirge on this thread.

Swing low, sweet chariot ...

This directly affects how teams will be rostered this fall.

If clubs want wins and dont care about player development Aug birthdays will be rostered on one team.

If clubs do care about player development and want to keep teams together long term Aug birthdays will be rostered on a different team.

What type of club is your kid participating in?

Why just attack August kids? What about September kids?

And the PP is right so few kids are in this situation that clubs can handle case by case, like they say around here.

All these years January and February kids aren't a thing, but now August and September kids need their own league and rules

Flaming pile of manure nonsense

Its because in BY grade doesnt apply.

Thinking it grade came into the rules in the switch from BY to SY is delusional.

Okay, so if grade has nothing to do with the new rules, why call it SY?

“School year” and “grade” are not equivalent categories. One is a time frame. The other is an academic placement. They overlap culturally, but they are not the same thing.

“SY” is simply a tag for the new registration window: August 1 through July 31. That’s it. It’s a clean data set. A standardized 12-month block that leagues can organize around.

Think of it like fiscal year versus calendar year. No one believes a fiscal year defines when the sun rises. It’s just a framework for accounting. Same principle here. SY isn’t redefining grade. It’s defining a uniform operational window.

The confusion happens because in youth sports we’ve historically blurred grade, birth year, and team placement as if they’re interchangeable. They’re not. Grade is academic progression. Birth year is biological timing. SY is an administrative cycle.

Why call it SY at all? Because leagues need a consistent reference point that aligns with how families already think about seasonal transitions. August to July mirrors the rhythm of a school calendar without being the same thing. It’s a scheduling spine, not a developmental philosophy.

So if grade has nothing to do with the rule itself, calling it SY doesn’t contradict that. SY names the time block. Grade remains an academic marker. Team placement remains a developmental decision.

Administrative clarity and player development are two different conversations. Mixing them creates noise. Separating them creates better decisions for kids.

This logical factual explanation is wasted on the recipient

The issue is if you bring College Recuiting into the mix Graduating Year (grade in school) becomes part of the equation. Like it or not.

Then why don't the MLS Club academies do grade year since they send the highest percentage of players to college teams?

England has SY, they don't group by school grades

Age guy, aka a club has the answer.

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

Seems college coaches don't care what age group you are in because of transfers, foreign players, redshirts and players from all different flavor HS aged players. All have to be evaluated to find the best.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While this does affect a few, many don't really care about this debate (other than people are treated fairly). Many more DO/did like talking about offers to share information. Sigh.

Well, past the time for a funeral dirge on this thread.

Swing low, sweet chariot ...

This directly affects how teams will be rostered this fall.

If clubs want wins and dont care about player development Aug birthdays will be rostered on one team.

If clubs do care about player development and want to keep teams together long term Aug birthdays will be rostered on a different team.

What type of club is your kid participating in?

Why just attack August kids? What about September kids?

And the PP is right so few kids are in this situation that clubs can handle case by case, like they say around here.

All these years January and February kids aren't a thing, but now August and September kids need their own league and rules

Flaming pile of manure nonsense

Its because in BY grade doesnt apply.

Thinking it grade came into the rules in the switch from BY to SY is delusional.

Okay, so if grade has nothing to do with the new rules, why call it SY?

“School year” and “grade” are not equivalent categories. One is a time frame. The other is an academic placement. They overlap culturally, but they are not the same thing.

“SY” is simply a tag for the new registration window: August 1 through July 31. That’s it. It’s a clean data set. A standardized 12-month block that leagues can organize around.

Think of it like fiscal year versus calendar year. No one believes a fiscal year defines when the sun rises. It’s just a framework for accounting. Same principle here. SY isn’t redefining grade. It’s defining a uniform operational window.

The confusion happens because in youth sports we’ve historically blurred grade, birth year, and team placement as if they’re interchangeable. They’re not. Grade is academic progression. Birth year is biological timing. SY is an administrative cycle.

Why call it SY at all? Because leagues need a consistent reference point that aligns with how families already think about seasonal transitions. August to July mirrors the rhythm of a school calendar without being the same thing. It’s a scheduling spine, not a developmental philosophy.

So if grade has nothing to do with the rule itself, calling it SY doesn’t contradict that. SY names the time block. Grade remains an academic marker. Team placement remains a developmental decision.

Administrative clarity and player development are two different conversations. Mixing them creates noise. Separating them creates better decisions for kids.

This logical factual explanation is wasted on the recipient

The issue is if you bring College Recuiting into the mix Graduating Year (grade in school) becomes part of the equation. Like it or not.

Then why don't the MLS Club academies do grade year since they send the highest percentage of players to college teams?

England has SY, they don't group by school grades

Age guy, aka a club has the answer.

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

Seems college coaches don't care what age group you are in because of transfers, foreign players, redshirts and players from all different flavor HS aged players. All have to be evaluated to find the best.

This is nonsense.

College coaches are comparing you against all the other players available in your graduating year. Throw out the foreigners and transfer players because these happen independent of youth club soccer.

If you had two equivalent players in rhe same graduating year but one played correct grade and the other played down a grade in club Which one will 99% of people choose?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While this does affect a few, many don't really care about this debate (other than people are treated fairly). Many more DO/did like talking about offers to share information. Sigh.

Well, past the time for a funeral dirge on this thread.

Swing low, sweet chariot ...

This directly affects how teams will be rostered this fall.

If clubs want wins and dont care about player development Aug birthdays will be rostered on one team.

If clubs do care about player development and want to keep teams together long term Aug birthdays will be rostered on a different team.

What type of club is your kid participating in?

Why just attack August kids? What about September kids?

And the PP is right so few kids are in this situation that clubs can handle case by case, like they say around here.

All these years January and February kids aren't a thing, but now August and September kids need their own league and rules

Flaming pile of manure nonsense

Its because in BY grade doesnt apply.

Thinking it grade came into the rules in the switch from BY to SY is delusional.

Okay, so if grade has nothing to do with the new rules, why call it SY?

“School year” and “grade” are not equivalent categories. One is a time frame. The other is an academic placement. They overlap culturally, but they are not the same thing.

“SY” is simply a tag for the new registration window: August 1 through July 31. That’s it. It’s a clean data set. A standardized 12-month block that leagues can organize around.

Think of it like fiscal year versus calendar year. No one believes a fiscal year defines when the sun rises. It’s just a framework for accounting. Same principle here. SY isn’t redefining grade. It’s defining a uniform operational window.

The confusion happens because in youth sports we’ve historically blurred grade, birth year, and team placement as if they’re interchangeable. They’re not. Grade is academic progression. Birth year is biological timing. SY is an administrative cycle.

Why call it SY at all? Because leagues need a consistent reference point that aligns with how families already think about seasonal transitions. August to July mirrors the rhythm of a school calendar without being the same thing. It’s a scheduling spine, not a developmental philosophy.

So if grade has nothing to do with the rule itself, calling it SY doesn’t contradict that. SY names the time block. Grade remains an academic marker. Team placement remains a developmental decision.

Administrative clarity and player development are two different conversations. Mixing them creates noise. Separating them creates better decisions for kids.

This logical factual explanation is wasted on the recipient

The issue is if you bring College Recuiting into the mix Graduating Year (grade in school) becomes part of the equation. Like it or not.

Then why don't the MLS Club academies do grade year since they send the highest percentage of players to college teams?

England has SY, they don't group by school grades

Age guy, aka a club has the answer.

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

Seems college coaches don't care what age group you are in because of transfers, foreign players, redshirts and players from all different flavor HS aged players. All have to be evaluated to find the best.

This is nonsense.

College coaches are comparing you against all the other players available in your graduating year. Throw out the foreigners and transfer players because these happen independent of youth club soccer.

If you had two equivalent players in rhe same graduating year but one played correct grade and the other played down a grade in club Which one will 99% of people choose?

Colleges aren't going to just throw out the foreigners and transfer players because they happen independent of youth club soccer. All potential players have to be evaluated in various ecosystems equally to find the best players. This is what coaches do, evaluate players.

99 percent take the players with the best performance, development, and potential. It's what they said, not me.

Sorry if it doesn't fit your narrative of forcing grade year on youth soccer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While this does affect a few, many don't really care about this debate (other than people are treated fairly). Many more DO/did like talking about offers to share information. Sigh.

Well, past the time for a funeral dirge on this thread.

Swing low, sweet chariot ...

This directly affects how teams will be rostered this fall.

If clubs want wins and dont care about player development Aug birthdays will be rostered on one team.

If clubs do care about player development and want to keep teams together long term Aug birthdays will be rostered on a different team.

What type of club is your kid participating in?

Why just attack August kids? What about September kids?

And the PP is right so few kids are in this situation that clubs can handle case by case, like they say around here.

All these years January and February kids aren't a thing, but now August and September kids need their own league and rules

Flaming pile of manure nonsense

Its because in BY grade doesnt apply.

Thinking it grade came into the rules in the switch from BY to SY is delusional.

Okay, so if grade has nothing to do with the new rules, why call it SY?

“School year” and “grade” are not equivalent categories. One is a time frame. The other is an academic placement. They overlap culturally, but they are not the same thing.

“SY” is simply a tag for the new registration window: August 1 through July 31. That’s it. It’s a clean data set. A standardized 12-month block that leagues can organize around.

Think of it like fiscal year versus calendar year. No one believes a fiscal year defines when the sun rises. It’s just a framework for accounting. Same principle here. SY isn’t redefining grade. It’s defining a uniform operational window.

The confusion happens because in youth sports we’ve historically blurred grade, birth year, and team placement as if they’re interchangeable. They’re not. Grade is academic progression. Birth year is biological timing. SY is an administrative cycle.

Why call it SY at all? Because leagues need a consistent reference point that aligns with how families already think about seasonal transitions. August to July mirrors the rhythm of a school calendar without being the same thing. It’s a scheduling spine, not a developmental philosophy.

So if grade has nothing to do with the rule itself, calling it SY doesn’t contradict that. SY names the time block. Grade remains an academic marker. Team placement remains a developmental decision.

Administrative clarity and player development are two different conversations. Mixing them creates noise. Separating them creates better decisions for kids.

This logical factual explanation is wasted on the recipient

The issue is if you bring College Recuiting into the mix Graduating Year (grade in school) becomes part of the equation. Like it or not.

Then why don't the MLS Club academies do grade year since they send the highest percentage of players to college teams?

England has SY, they don't group by school grades

Age guy, aka a club has the answer.

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

Seems college coaches don't care what age group you are in because of transfers, foreign players, redshirts and players from all different flavor HS aged players. All have to be evaluated to find the best.

This is nonsense.

College coaches are comparing you against all the other players available in your graduating year. Throw out the foreigners and transfer players because these happen independent of youth club soccer.

If you had two equivalent players in rhe same graduating year but one played correct grade and the other played down a grade in club Which one will 99% of people choose?

Dear Soccer Dunce,
The college recruiter is looking at soccer talent, performance, potential and if the person fits their program.
That's who they choose.

Don't give a rats behind about school grade

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While this does affect a few, many don't really care about this debate (other than people are treated fairly). Many more DO/did like talking about offers to share information. Sigh.

Well, past the time for a funeral dirge on this thread.

Swing low, sweet chariot ...

This directly affects how teams will be rostered this fall.

If clubs want wins and dont care about player development Aug birthdays will be rostered on one team.

If clubs do care about player development and want to keep teams together long term Aug birthdays will be rostered on a different team.

What type of club is your kid participating in?

Why just attack August kids? What about September kids?

And the PP is right so few kids are in this situation that clubs can handle case by case, like they say around here.

All these years January and February kids aren't a thing, but now August and September kids need their own league and rules

Flaming pile of manure nonsense

Its because in BY grade doesnt apply.

Thinking it grade came into the rules in the switch from BY to SY is delusional.

Okay, so if grade has nothing to do with the new rules, why call it SY?

“School year” and “grade” are not equivalent categories. One is a time frame. The other is an academic placement. They overlap culturally, but they are not the same thing.

“SY” is simply a tag for the new registration window: August 1 through July 31. That’s it. It’s a clean data set. A standardized 12-month block that leagues can organize around.

Think of it like fiscal year versus calendar year. No one believes a fiscal year defines when the sun rises. It’s just a framework for accounting. Same principle here. SY isn’t redefining grade. It’s defining a uniform operational window.

The confusion happens because in youth sports we’ve historically blurred grade, birth year, and team placement as if they’re interchangeable. They’re not. Grade is academic progression. Birth year is biological timing. SY is an administrative cycle.

Why call it SY at all? Because leagues need a consistent reference point that aligns with how families already think about seasonal transitions. August to July mirrors the rhythm of a school calendar without being the same thing. It’s a scheduling spine, not a developmental philosophy.

So if grade has nothing to do with the rule itself, calling it SY doesn’t contradict that. SY names the time block. Grade remains an academic marker. Team placement remains a developmental decision.

Administrative clarity and player development are two different conversations. Mixing them creates noise. Separating them creates better decisions for kids.

This logical factual explanation is wasted on the recipient

The issue is if you bring College Recuiting into the mix Graduating Year (grade in school) becomes part of the equation. Like it or not.

Then why don't the MLS Club academies do grade year since they send the highest percentage of players to college teams?

England has SY, they don't group by school grades

Age guy, aka a club has the answer.

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

Seems college coaches don't care what age group you are in because of transfers, foreign players, redshirts and players from all different flavor HS aged players. All have to be evaluated to find the best.

This is nonsense.

College coaches are comparing you against all the other players available in your graduating year. Throw out the foreigners and transfer players because these happen independent of youth club soccer.

If you had two equivalent players in rhe same graduating year but one played correct grade and the other played down a grade in club Which one will 99% of people choose?

Dear Soccer Dunce,
The college recruiter is looking at soccer talent, performance, potential and if the person fits their program.
That's who they choose.

Don't give a rats behind about school grade

I guarantee the first thing every college coach figures out before considering a player is their graduating year aka grade in school.

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Anonymous wrote:While this does affect a few, many don't really care about this debate (other than people are treated fairly). Many more DO/did like talking about offers to share information. Sigh.

Well, past the time for a funeral dirge on this thread.

Swing low, sweet chariot ...

This directly affects how teams will be rostered this fall.

If clubs want wins and dont care about player development Aug birthdays will be rostered on one team.

If clubs do care about player development and want to keep teams together long term Aug birthdays will be rostered on a different team.

What type of club is your kid participating in?

Why just attack August kids? What about September kids?

And the PP is right so few kids are in this situation that clubs can handle case by case, like they say around here.

All these years January and February kids aren't a thing, but now August and September kids need their own league and rules

Flaming pile of manure nonsense

Its because in BY grade doesnt apply.

Thinking it grade came into the rules in the switch from BY to SY is delusional.

Okay, so if grade has nothing to do with the new rules, why call it SY?

“School year” and “grade” are not equivalent categories. One is a time frame. The other is an academic placement. They overlap culturally, but they are not the same thing.

“SY” is simply a tag for the new registration window: August 1 through July 31. That’s it. It’s a clean data set. A standardized 12-month block that leagues can organize around.

Think of it like fiscal year versus calendar year. No one believes a fiscal year defines when the sun rises. It’s just a framework for accounting. Same principle here. SY isn’t redefining grade. It’s defining a uniform operational window.

The confusion happens because in youth sports we’ve historically blurred grade, birth year, and team placement as if they’re interchangeable. They’re not. Grade is academic progression. Birth year is biological timing. SY is an administrative cycle.

Why call it SY at all? Because leagues need a consistent reference point that aligns with how families already think about seasonal transitions. August to July mirrors the rhythm of a school calendar without being the same thing. It’s a scheduling spine, not a developmental philosophy.

So if grade has nothing to do with the rule itself, calling it SY doesn’t contradict that. SY names the time block. Grade remains an academic marker. Team placement remains a developmental decision.

Administrative clarity and player development are two different conversations. Mixing them creates noise. Separating them creates better decisions for kids.

This logical factual explanation is wasted on the recipient

The issue is if you bring College Recuiting into the mix Graduating Year (grade in school) becomes part of the equation. Like it or not.

Then why don't the MLS Club academies do grade year since they send the highest percentage of players to college teams?

England has SY, they don't group by school grades

Age guy, aka a club has the answer.

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

Seems college coaches don't care what age group you are in because of transfers, foreign players, redshirts and players from all different flavor HS aged players. All have to be evaluated to find the best.

This is nonsense.

College coaches are comparing you against all the other players available in your graduating year. Throw out the foreigners and transfer players because these happen independent of youth club soccer.

If you had two equivalent players in rhe same graduating year but one played correct grade and the other played down a grade in club Which one will 99% of people choose?

Dear Soccer Dunce,
The college recruiter is looking at soccer talent, performance, potential and if the person fits their program.
That's who they choose.

Don't give a rats behind about school grade

I guarantee the first thing every college coach figures out before considering a player is their graduating year aka grade in school.

Graduation year is unrelated to age group played as a youth, see BY as an example. Recruits have to make the first contact with colleges almost all the time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While this does affect a few, many don't really care about this debate (other than people are treated fairly). Many more DO/did like talking about offers to share information. Sigh.

Well, past the time for a funeral dirge on this thread.

Swing low, sweet chariot ...

This directly affects how teams will be rostered this fall.

If clubs want wins and dont care about player development Aug birthdays will be rostered on one team.

If clubs do care about player development and want to keep teams together long term Aug birthdays will be rostered on a different team.

What type of club is your kid participating in?

Why just attack August kids? What about September kids?

And the PP is right so few kids are in this situation that clubs can handle case by case, like they say around here.

All these years January and February kids aren't a thing, but now August and September kids need their own league and rules

Flaming pile of manure nonsense

Its because in BY grade doesnt apply.

Thinking it grade came into the rules in the switch from BY to SY is delusional.

Okay, so if grade has nothing to do with the new rules, why call it SY?

“School year” and “grade” are not equivalent categories. One is a time frame. The other is an academic placement. They overlap culturally, but they are not the same thing.

“SY” is simply a tag for the new registration window: August 1 through July 31. That’s it. It’s a clean data set. A standardized 12-month block that leagues can organize around.

Think of it like fiscal year versus calendar year. No one believes a fiscal year defines when the sun rises. It’s just a framework for accounting. Same principle here. SY isn’t redefining grade. It’s defining a uniform operational window.

The confusion happens because in youth sports we’ve historically blurred grade, birth year, and team placement as if they’re interchangeable. They’re not. Grade is academic progression. Birth year is biological timing. SY is an administrative cycle.

Why call it SY at all? Because leagues need a consistent reference point that aligns with how families already think about seasonal transitions. August to July mirrors the rhythm of a school calendar without being the same thing. It’s a scheduling spine, not a developmental philosophy.

So if grade has nothing to do with the rule itself, calling it SY doesn’t contradict that. SY names the time block. Grade remains an academic marker. Team placement remains a developmental decision.

Administrative clarity and player development are two different conversations. Mixing them creates noise. Separating them creates better decisions for kids.

This logical factual explanation is wasted on the recipient

The issue is if you bring College Recuiting into the mix Graduating Year (grade in school) becomes part of the equation. Like it or not.

Then why don't the MLS Club academies do grade year since they send the highest percentage of players to college teams?

England has SY, they don't group by school grades

Age guy, aka a club has the answer.

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

Seems college coaches don't care what age group you are in because of transfers, foreign players, redshirts and players from all different flavor HS aged players. All have to be evaluated to find the best.

This is nonsense.

College coaches are comparing you against all the other players available in your graduating year. Throw out the foreigners and transfer players because these happen independent of youth club soccer.

If you had two equivalent players in rhe same graduating year but one played correct grade and the other played down a grade in club Which one will 99% of people choose?

Dear Soccer Dunce,
The college recruiter is looking at soccer talent, performance, potential and if the person fits their program.
That's who they choose.

Don't give a rats behind about school grade

I guarantee the first thing every college coach figures out before considering a player is their graduating year aka grade in school.

Graduation year is unrelated to age group played as a youth, see BY as an example. Recruits have to make the first contact with colleges almost all the time.

NCAA Division I and II soccer coaches can start directly contacting, emailing, and calling student-athletes on June 15 after their Sophomore year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While this does affect a few, many don't really care about this debate (other than people are treated fairly). Many more DO/did like talking about offers to share information. Sigh.

Well, past the time for a funeral dirge on this thread.

Swing low, sweet chariot ...

This directly affects how teams will be rostered this fall.

If clubs want wins and dont care about player development Aug birthdays will be rostered on one team.

If clubs do care about player development and want to keep teams together long term Aug birthdays will be rostered on a different team.

What type of club is your kid participating in?

Why just attack August kids? What about September kids?

And the PP is right so few kids are in this situation that clubs can handle case by case, like they say around here.

All these years January and February kids aren't a thing, but now August and September kids need their own league and rules

Flaming pile of manure nonsense

Its because in BY grade doesnt apply.

Thinking it grade came into the rules in the switch from BY to SY is delusional.

Okay, so if grade has nothing to do with the new rules, why call it SY?

“School year” and “grade” are not equivalent categories. One is a time frame. The other is an academic placement. They overlap culturally, but they are not the same thing.

“SY” is simply a tag for the new registration window: August 1 through July 31. That’s it. It’s a clean data set. A standardized 12-month block that leagues can organize around.

Think of it like fiscal year versus calendar year. No one believes a fiscal year defines when the sun rises. It’s just a framework for accounting. Same principle here. SY isn’t redefining grade. It’s defining a uniform operational window.

The confusion happens because in youth sports we’ve historically blurred grade, birth year, and team placement as if they’re interchangeable. They’re not. Grade is academic progression. Birth year is biological timing. SY is an administrative cycle.

Why call it SY at all? Because leagues need a consistent reference point that aligns with how families already think about seasonal transitions. August to July mirrors the rhythm of a school calendar without being the same thing. It’s a scheduling spine, not a developmental philosophy.

So if grade has nothing to do with the rule itself, calling it SY doesn’t contradict that. SY names the time block. Grade remains an academic marker. Team placement remains a developmental decision.

Administrative clarity and player development are two different conversations. Mixing them creates noise. Separating them creates better decisions for kids.

This logical factual explanation is wasted on the recipient

The issue is if you bring College Recuiting into the mix Graduating Year (grade in school) becomes part of the equation. Like it or not.

Then why don't the MLS Club academies do grade year since they send the highest percentage of players to college teams?

England has SY, they don't group by school grades

Age guy, aka a club has the answer.

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

Seems college coaches don't care what age group you are in because of transfers, foreign players, redshirts and players from all different flavor HS aged players. All have to be evaluated to find the best.

This is nonsense.

College coaches are comparing you against all the other players available in your graduating year. Throw out the foreigners and transfer players because these happen independent of youth club soccer.

If you had two equivalent players in rhe same graduating year but one played correct grade and the other played down a grade in club Which one will 99% of people choose?

Dear Soccer Dunce,
The college recruiter is looking at soccer talent, performance, potential and if the person fits their program.
That's who they choose.

Don't give a rats behind about school grade

I guarantee the first thing every college coach figures out before considering a player is their graduating year aka grade in school.

Graduation year is unrelated to age group played as a youth, see BY as an example. Recruits have to make the first contact with colleges almost all the time.

NCAA Division I and II soccer coaches can start directly contacting, emailing, and calling student-athletes on June 15 after their Sophomore year.

I was told it was Junior year

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While this does affect a few, many don't really care about this debate (other than people are treated fairly). Many more DO/did like talking about offers to share information. Sigh.

Well, past the time for a funeral dirge on this thread.

Swing low, sweet chariot ...

This directly affects how teams will be rostered this fall.

If clubs want wins and dont care about player development Aug birthdays will be rostered on one team.

If clubs do care about player development and want to keep teams together long term Aug birthdays will be rostered on a different team.

What type of club is your kid participating in?

Why just attack August kids? What about September kids?

And the PP is right so few kids are in this situation that clubs can handle case by case, like they say around here.

All these years January and February kids aren't a thing, but now August and September kids need their own league and rules

Flaming pile of manure nonsense

Its because in BY grade doesnt apply.

Thinking it grade came into the rules in the switch from BY to SY is delusional.

Okay, so if grade has nothing to do with the new rules, why call it SY?

“School year” and “grade” are not equivalent categories. One is a time frame. The other is an academic placement. They overlap culturally, but they are not the same thing.

“SY” is simply a tag for the new registration window: August 1 through July 31. That’s it. It’s a clean data set. A standardized 12-month block that leagues can organize around.

Think of it like fiscal year versus calendar year. No one believes a fiscal year defines when the sun rises. It’s just a framework for accounting. Same principle here. SY isn’t redefining grade. It’s defining a uniform operational window.

The confusion happens because in youth sports we’ve historically blurred grade, birth year, and team placement as if they’re interchangeable. They’re not. Grade is academic progression. Birth year is biological timing. SY is an administrative cycle.

Why call it SY at all? Because leagues need a consistent reference point that aligns with how families already think about seasonal transitions. August to July mirrors the rhythm of a school calendar without being the same thing. It’s a scheduling spine, not a developmental philosophy.

So if grade has nothing to do with the rule itself, calling it SY doesn’t contradict that. SY names the time block. Grade remains an academic marker. Team placement remains a developmental decision.

Administrative clarity and player development are two different conversations. Mixing them creates noise. Separating them creates better decisions for kids.

This logical factual explanation is wasted on the recipient

The issue is if you bring College Recuiting into the mix Graduating Year (grade in school) becomes part of the equation. Like it or not.

Then why don't the MLS Club academies do grade year since they send the highest percentage of players to college teams?

England has SY, they don't group by school grades

Age guy, aka a club has the answer.

"The new two-year age group structure will not negatively impact college recruiting. College coaches evaluate players based on their performance, development, and potential—not the exact age grouping of their club team."

Seems college coaches don't care what age group you are in because of transfers, foreign players, redshirts and players from all different flavor HS aged players. All have to be evaluated to find the best.

This is nonsense.

College coaches are comparing you against all the other players available in your graduating year. Throw out the foreigners and transfer players because these happen independent of youth club soccer.

If you had two equivalent players in rhe same graduating year but one played correct grade and the other played down a grade in club Which one will 99% of people choose?

Dear Soccer Dunce,
The college recruiter is looking at soccer talent, performance, potential and if the person fits their program.
That's who they choose.

Don't give a rats behind about school grade

I guarantee the first thing every college coach figures out before considering a player is their graduating year aka grade in school.

Graduation year is unrelated to age group played as a youth, see BY as an example. Recruits have to make the first contact with colleges almost all the time.

NCAA Division I and II soccer coaches can start directly contacting, emailing, and calling student-athletes on June 15 after their Sophomore year.

You have no point because college coaches can contact juniors that are playing in any age group, just like in BY now and will be BY for MLSN.