what is wrong with modern kids and no motivation to shovel?

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Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.

BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.

Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.

You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20

This x1000. If they are boomers, they will pay even less if the kid is younger. My aunt was complaining that the boy Nextdoor she hired to water her outdoor plants, sweep their porch, bring in mail, take trash cans to the curb etc was not reliable and she was paying him a full dollar! A dollar, a cold buck!

My poor kid had an elderly neighbor who asked him last year to shovel, and for an hour's work for a fairly large house/driveway, he was paid 10$. I told my kid not to complain and paid him an extra 20$. But he didn't shovel for that neighbor this year again.

A decent teen would do an elderly neighbor for free. Mine did. One day you will need the help.

Actually, a decent family would shovel an elderly neighbors walk together. A decent family is not sending their teen out by themselves to do charity work to feel good about themselves. They take a few hours off of work and they do it with them.

+1 Wtf. If you want to do volunteer work, go and do it. Don’t blame a hardworking teenager for being annoyed by stingy grandpa who thinks that shoveling is only worth 10$ an hour.

Parents liek you are the problem. Mine doesn't need $10 and did it for free to be a decent person.

Whatever mommy warbucks. If you want your kid to be taken advantage of by a stingy person, go ahead and volunteer your own kid and our own time to go shoveling with your kid. Don’t insult other kids who don’t want to do it.

How sad that all you're capable of in this thread is calling names , and making empty threats.

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Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.

BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.

Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.

Your teen is capable of more than prom, homecoming and beach week. Let them surprise you.

You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20

This x1000. If they are boomers, they will pay even less if the kid is younger. My aunt was complaining that the boy Nextdoor she hired to water her outdoor plants, sweep their porch, bring in mail, take trash cans to the curb etc was not reliable and she was paying him a full dollar! A dollar, a cold buck!

My poor kid had an elderly neighbor who asked him last year to shovel, and for an hour's work for a fairly large house/driveway, he was paid 10$. I told my kid not to complain and paid him an extra 20$. But he didn't shovel for that neighbor this year again.

A decent teen would do an elderly neighbor for free. Mine did. One day you will need the help.

Actually, a decent family would shovel an elderly neighbors walk together. A decent family is not sending their teen out by themselves to do charity work to feel good about themselves. They take a few hours off of work and they do it with them.

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Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.

BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.

Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.

You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20

This x1000. If they are boomers, they will pay even less if the kid is younger. My aunt was complaining that the boy Nextdoor she hired to water her outdoor plants, sweep their porch, bring in mail, take trash cans to the curb etc was not reliable and she was paying him a full dollar! A dollar, a cold buck!

My poor kid had an elderly neighbor who asked him last year to shovel, and for an hour's work for a fairly large house/driveway, he was paid 10$. I told my kid not to complain and paid him an extra 20$. But he didn't shovel for that neighbor this year again.

A decent teen would do an elderly neighbor for free. Mine did. One day you will need the help.

Actually, a decent family would shovel an elderly neighbors walk together. A decent family is not sending their teen out by themselves to do charity work to feel good about themselves. They take a few hours off of work and they do it with them.

+1 Wtf. If you want to do volunteer work, go and do it. Don’t blame a hardworking teenager for being annoyed by stingy grandpa who thinks that shoveling is only worth 10$ an hour.

Parents liek you are the problem. Mine doesn't need $10 and did it for free to be a decent person.

Whatever mommy warbucks. If you want your kid to be taken advantage of by a stingy person, go ahead and volunteer your own kid and our own time to go shoveling with your kid. Don’t insult other kids who don’t want to do it.

How sad that all you're capable of in this thread is calling names , and making empty threats.

You’re the unkind human being for calling a teen “indecent” for wanting to get paid more than 10$/hr for shoveling snow. If your kids could see your posts they would be ashamed of you for being so nasty and ignorant.

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Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.

BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.

Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.

Your teen is capable of more than prom, homecoming and beach week. Let them surprise you.

You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20

This x1000. If they are boomers, they will pay even less if the kid is younger. My aunt was complaining that the boy Nextdoor she hired to water her outdoor plants, sweep their porch, bring in mail, take trash cans to the curb etc was not reliable and she was paying him a full dollar! A dollar, a cold buck!

My poor kid had an elderly neighbor who asked him last year to shovel, and for an hour's work for a fairly large house/driveway, he was paid 10$. I told my kid not to complain and paid him an extra 20$. But he didn't shovel for that neighbor this year again.

A decent teen would do an elderly neighbor for free. Mine did. One day you will need the help.

Actually, a decent family would shovel an elderly neighbors walk together. A decent family is not sending their teen out by themselves to do charity work to feel good about themselves. They take a few hours off of work and they do it with them.

+1 Why would you send a teen alone on these icy days to work for free to do work you have deemed charity? If you are so rich that it’s beneath your dignity for your child to accept pay, you’re probably in a wealthy neighborhood. I wouldn’t send my kid out to work for free for a neighbor who probably has a million dollars of equity in their home.

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They are being given too much money, whether a debit card, allowance, cash, etc. Give them less, they'll work more.

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We have kids shoveling in our neighborhood, but it's considered a "bad" poor area on DCUM.

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Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.

BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.

Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.

Your teen is capable of more than prom, homecoming and beach week. Let them surprise you.

You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20

This x1000. If they are boomers, they will pay even less if the kid is younger. My aunt was complaining that the boy Nextdoor she hired to water her outdoor plants, sweep their porch, bring in mail, take trash cans to the curb etc was not reliable and she was paying him a full dollar! A dollar, a cold buck!

My poor kid had an elderly neighbor who asked him last year to shovel, and for an hour's work for a fairly large house/driveway, he was paid 10$. I told my kid not to complain and paid him an extra 20$. But he didn't shovel for that neighbor this year again.

A decent teen would do an elderly neighbor for free. Mine did. One day you will need the help.

Actually, a decent family would shovel an elderly neighbors walk together. A decent family is not sending their teen out by themselves to do charity work to feel good about themselves. They take a few hours off of work and they do it with them.

+1 Why would you send a teen alone on these icy days to work for free to do work you have deemed charity? If you are so rich that it’s beneath your dignity for your child to accept pay, you’re probably in a wealthy neighborhood. I wouldn’t send my kid out to work for free for a neighbor who probably has a million dollars of equity in their home.

Our homes are about 1000 square feet and not wealthy. Our homes are not worth millions. Of course one of us was out there too. We just teach our kids to do the right thing. Are you so poor you have to have your kids work? Probably not, just lazy and selfish. It’s about helping out others, not a money grab. One day we may need the help. What goes around comes around.

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Anonymous wrote:They're not motivated because their parents buy them everything they want and ask for. They don't have the incentive to earn money, since mom and dad will get it anyway. Why do hard work?

If mom and dad think shoveling is beneath them, the kids think and act the same.

Why did you not shovel? My kids are far from spoiled. They are taught to be good people and neighbors and aren’t onto material things. They work summers which goes into their Roth. They don’t ask for much.

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Anonymous wrote:They are being given too much money, whether a debit card, allowance, cash, etc. Give them less, they'll work more.

And they will record opportunity for what it is- hard work. Hard Rota shouldn’t be what other people do.

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My teens are in college now so the driveway was all on us, and it was hard. I felt so bad but could not do our elderly neighbor’s because DH and I have middle-aged backs and joints and we had to prioritize our health.

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Anonymous wrote:My teens are in college now so the driveway was all on us, and it was hard. I felt so bad but could not do our elderly neighbor’s because DH and I have middle-aged backs and joints and we had to prioritize our health.

And as far as this bitter debate - eh, to each their own. I don’t begrudge kids who charge, as long as they do a good job. This was the first year we didn’t have kids knocking on our door - maybe because of the unusually low temps.

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Anonymous wrote:They are being given too much money, whether a debit card, allowance, cash, etc. Give them less, they'll work more.

This. Our problem is that the money comes from grandparents. "Oh I heard you breathed yesterday, here's $100 of apple cash!"

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What age did child start shoveling home driveway and sidewalk with parents?

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Anonymous wrote:What age did child start shoveling home driveway and sidewalk with parents?

4-5, she had a kid size shovel and would “help”. By 9-10, she was in charge of clearing the cars off. Now as teen, she clears the cars and does the front walk. We have a snow blower so when the conditions are right it’s fairly quick. But in these Hoth level ice blocks conditions the blower doesn’t work.

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Anonymous wrote:The reason you can't a neighbor team for labor is that half the houses on your block are occupied by elderly Boomers who won't sell their houses to families who need houses.

The reason some people like the PP are the way they are is because they feel it is always someone else's fault

If a person is the owner of their home they get to live there. Seems pretty obvious to me!