what is wrong with modern kids and no motivation to shovel?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many of these kids are studying because that is their full time job and they carry heavy academic loads that include tons of honors and AP classes. So let them study OP, they want to work smart and not hard when they grow up. Besides many neighborhoods have crews to come in and do that hard work.

Kids can do multiple things.
And they are not learning to work smarter. They are learning to be lazy and entitled. The results are in a gen x sucks as parents

Or you’re just too dumb to understand that my kid doesn’t owe you a damn thing. My kid shoveled my drive. If you didn’t properly prepare for the storm, that’s on you. You sound like a petulant toddler complaining about CHILDREN not working for peanuts. You’re right though that they are working smarter and that includes not working for d1cks like you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.

BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.

Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.

You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20

Minimum wage is like $15 an hour. $20 for a term is good money. Mine just finished and probably got the equivalent of $17-18 an hour and he was happy as a clam. He can’t wait until this summer when he will be old enough for a job.

Um - do you live here? it's more than an hour for most driveways with this storm.

It took all day to shovel our driveway - two adults taking turns - and we started early before it froze up. We'd have paid $200 and thought it was fair.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.

BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.

Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.

You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20

Minimum wage is like $15 an hour. $20 for a term is good money. Mine just finished and probably got the equivalent of $17-18 an hour and he was happy as a clam. He can’t wait until this summer when he will be old enough for a job.

Um - do you live here? it's more than an hour for most driveways with this storm.

It took all day to shovel our driveway - two adults taking turns - and we started early before it froze up. We'd have paid $200 and thought it was fair.

Shoveling today if you haven’t shoveled previous days was so slow due to the ice. My teen is done after today wouldn’t accept anymore jobs for tomorrow because it was such frustratingly slow work today. He did 8 houses since Sunday and made good money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these kids are studying because that is their full time job and they carry heavy academic loads that include tons of honors and AP classes. So let them study OP, they want to work smart and not hard when they grow up. Besides many neighborhoods have crews to come in and do that hard work.

Kids can do multiple things.
And they are not learning to work smarter. They are learning to be lazy and entitled. The results are in a gen x sucks as parents

Or you’re just too dumb to understand that my kid doesn’t owe you a damn thing. My kid shoveled my drive. If you didn’t properly prepare for the storm, that’s on you. You sound like a petulant toddler complaining about CHILDREN not working for peanuts. You’re right though that they are working smarter and that includes not working for d1cks like you.

+1. Shoveling is a job. Teens can’t win between idiots like the OP complaining no teen wants to work for any amount of money and idiots like the parent on this thread who says that any teen who expects to be paid for shoveling is “indecent” and should be doing it for free because homeowners need the money more.

[Anonymous]

My 12 year old made over $200 shoveling the past few days, but it was HARD work. This snow was very heavy and iced over after the first day.

[Anonymous]

My son and two friends spent hours shoveling on Sunday. They did all three of their family houses, plus four elderly neighbors houses for free, then they went door to door and made $400 between the three of them.

But they haven’t been going door to door since because digging out the ice is so hard, that they haven’t even finished redoing all the houses that they did on Sunday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They're not motivated because their parents buy them everything they want and ask for. They don't have the incentive to earn money, since mom and dad will get it anyway. Why do hard work?

If mom and dad think shoveling is beneath them, the kids think and act the same.

[Anonymous]

I broke my shovel today digging out a stuck food delivery guy. This ice is tough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They're not motivated because their parents buy them everything they want and ask for. They don't have the incentive to earn money, since mom and dad will get it anyway. Why do hard work?

If mom and dad think shoveling is beneath them, the kids think and act the same.

Op clearly thinks he/she is too good to shovel but it’s ok to pay kids peanuts to break their backs 🙄🙄

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Anonymous wrote:I remember as a kid loving snow because it meant we could go door to door and earn cold hard cash shoveling. It was great earning $200 bucks for a few hours of work.

Now I'm reading in DC that it is a sidewalk apocalypse because no one shoveled their walkways. It is too late now because it is packed down into ice, but where are the kids going door to door to make loot? It was a goldmine opportunity if they went out and made some effort. They even had multiple rounds of opportunity for shoveling due to the hours of snowfall and days off from school. I bet they could have easily made $2000 going door to door all day.

What happened to modern kids? Parent too scared? Or are they completely demotivated because they're stuck on their screens the whole time scrolling TikTok? It is great exercise too.

Because snow shoveling prices haven't kept pace. No one is going to spend an hour shoveling for $20.

So charge $40/h.

I would have paid a kid $40 to do our sidewalk. Probably 20 minutes of work = $120/h.

Psst

Shoveling a sidewalk was not 20 minutes worth of work this weekend.

It was 5x 20 minutes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This isn’t easy, push around snow. It took 3 grown men 2 hours to clear my driveway and sidewalk. My kids couldn’t have done it. The high schools I’d “contracted” never showed though they were great last year.

Agree. It took my 16 yo daughter 6 hours. She took a lunch break and two shorter breaks. She had to break up the ice and then shovel.

Bravo to your daughter.

There were so few girls out shoveling in our area, but scores of boys from around 10-12 years old to young adults.

Most of the girls were inside. It is nice to hear that a few of the girls were out doing this hard work.

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Anonymous wrote:They don't need money. Their parents fund their lives and expect them to get 4.5 GPA, do a travel sport, play an instrument and start a foundation.

It’s this, plus the fact that this was not a normal snowstorm. The sleet made it more like trying to shovel a layer of concrete. Just getting the sidewalk shoveled is a tough physical job.

Not if you were out on Sunday...

Wrong.

We shoveled twice on sunday and still has about 6 hours of shoveling ice on Monday.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This isn’t easy, push around snow. It took 3 grown men 2 hours to clear my driveway and sidewalk. My kids couldn’t have done it. The high schools I’d “contracted” never showed though they were great last year.

Agree. It took my 16 yo daughter 6 hours. She took a lunch break and two shorter breaks. She had to break up the ice and then shovel.

Bravo to your daughter.

There were so few girls out shoveling in our area, but scores of boys from around 10-12 years old to young adults.

Most of the girls were inside. It is nice to hear that a few of the girls were out doing this hard work.

Yes, it is good. I saw three teen girls selling hot chocolate at the park. They asked where my teen son was. I said he was shoveling and suggested they could make more money that way than selling hot chocolate to sledders, but they weren't interested.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these kids are studying because that is their full time job and they carry heavy academic loads that include tons of honors and AP classes. So let them study OP, they want to work smart and not hard when they grow up. Besides many neighborhoods have crews to come in and do that hard work.

Kids can do multiple things.
And they are not learning to work smarter. They are learning to be lazy and entitled. The results are in a gen x sucks as parents

Or you’re just too dumb to understand that my kid doesn’t owe you a damn thing. My kid shoveled my drive. If you didn’t properly prepare for the storm, that’s on you. You sound like a petulant toddler complaining about CHILDREN not working for peanuts. You’re right though that they are working smarter and that includes not working for d1cks like you.

My kids shoveled my driveway and the elderly neighbors. There's a thing called being neighborly, community.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Many of these kids are studying because that is their full time job and they carry heavy academic loads that include tons of honors and AP classes. So let them study OP, they want to work smart and not hard when they grow up. Besides many neighborhoods have crews to come in and do that hard work.

Kids can do multiple things.
And they are not learning to work smarter. They are learning to be lazy and entitled. The results are in a gen x sucks as parents

Or you’re just too dumb to understand that my kid doesn’t owe you a damn thing. My kid shoveled my drive. If you didn’t properly prepare for the storm, that’s on you. You sound like a petulant toddler complaining about CHILDREN not working for peanuts. You’re right though that they are working smarter and that includes not working for d1cks like you.

+1. Shoveling is a job. Teens can’t win between idiots like the OP complaining no teen wants to work for any amount of money and idiots like the parent on this thread who says that any teen who expects to be paid for shoveling is “indecent” and should be doing it for free because homeowners need the money more.

Just admit you raised lazy brats.