Boundary Review Meetings

[Anonymous]

HV will go to Lewis. SC will have room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:HV will go to Lewis. SC will have room.

They will move all of HV to Lewis. And move the rest of Rolling Valley to WSHS.

[Anonymous]

And Crestwood ES to WSHS on top of HV ES moving out? Is that the latest known plan?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And Crestwood ES to WSHS on top of HV ES moving out? Is that the latest known plan?

There is no way. Makes zero sense. WSHS would be just as crowded as it is now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And Crestwood ES to WSHS on top of HV ES moving out? Is that the latest known plan?

Crestwood ES is 2 miles from Lewis and 4 miles from WSHS. Unclear why this would be considered?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And Crestwood ES to WSHS on top of HV ES moving out? Is that the latest known plan?

We don’t know what’s going on with the Crestwood thing. It was some crosstalk in one of the virtual meetings. It could be a rumor that someone heard, it could be Crestwood to WS, it could be Crestwood to Annandale but not without moving something out of Annandale in return.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It was Crestwood.

Listening on line and the Board seems to not know what is going on or even to have any power. The consultants appear to be running the show.

That’s shocking. That wasn’t on any of the maps and they are pretty close to Lewis (well, all of Lewis’s boundaries are fairly close except perhaps the furthest ends of Saratoga).

Do we think this is some kind of move of Crestwood to WSHS and Hunt Valley to Lewis?

makes sense. HV is 200 more students than crestwood. so that adds students to Lewis which is underenrolled and reduces WSHS by 200 which is overenrolled. crestwood is also 50% FARMs and ESL while HV is like 10%. this helps with equitable outcomes between the schools.

Can someone explain how what they’re proposing to Halley and Gunston is equitable? They’re moving the Hagel Circle attendance island from Halley to Gunston (even though it’s still going to technically be an island). Hagel Circle is almost entirely FARMS. Halley will lose the majority of FARMS kids while Gunston will likely become a Title 1 school. In exchange for the increased students from Hagel Circle, they’re planning to move out a middle class neighborhood to Island Creek.

Bussing a low income neighborhood to a higher income school doesn’t work. Every neighborhood should be attending its closest school and this is extra true for lower income areas. Transportation is a real concern in high FARMS areas because not every household has a car, or maybe they only have 1 car for the whole household with multiple adults working in different areas. So if your kid misses the bus, there’s no way for them to get to school if walking isn’t realistic (which it absolutely is not from Hagel Circle to Halley). Parents are less likely to come to school conferences or events. Kids feel disconnected from the larger school community and it creates absenteeism.

I’m a South County parent although my kids are still in ES. If they move in Sangster’s small attendance island and most of HV south of the Parkway and don’t make any moves out, SCMS and HS are going to be overcrowded. No, I don’t really care which areas stay or go or come in to our boundaries in terms of the SES and which could give our school more “prestige,” I knew how the demographics were here when I bought and knew that it was a much larger income range compared to WS or Burke which seem more uniformly middle and UMC. But we can’t have a move in of a few hundred kids from WS and LB without a move out. Also worth noting there is significant room for development in Lorton - so a big new neighborhood could pop up at any moment, making the schools even more crowded and leading to “oops we need to make another boundary adjustment in 5-10 years” and a lot of instability.

Shhh… you can’t say that here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was Crestwood.

Listening on line and the Board seems to not know what is going on or even to have any power. The consultants appear to be running the show.

That’s shocking. That wasn’t on any of the maps and they are pretty close to Lewis (well, all of Lewis’s boundaries are fairly close except perhaps the furthest ends of Saratoga).

Do we think this is some kind of move of Crestwood to WSHS and Hunt Valley to Lewis?

makes sense. HV is 200 more students than crestwood. so that adds students to Lewis which is underenrolled and reduces WSHS by 200 which is overenrolled. crestwood is also 50% FARMs and ESL while HV is like 10%. this helps with equitable outcomes between the schools.

Can someone explain how what they’re proposing to Halley and Gunston is equitable? They’re moving the Hagel Circle attendance island from Halley to Gunston (even though it’s still going to technically be an island). Hagel Circle is almost entirely FARMS. Halley will lose the majority of FARMS kids while Gunston will likely become a Title 1 school. In exchange for the increased students from Hagel Circle, they’re planning to move out a middle class neighborhood to Island Creek.

Bussing a low income neighborhood to a higher income school doesn’t work. Every neighborhood should be attending its closest school and this is extra true for lower income areas. Transportation is a real concern in high FARMS areas because not every household has a car, or maybe they only have 1 car for the whole household with multiple adults working in different areas. So if your kid misses the bus, there’s no way for them to get to school if walking isn’t realistic (which it absolutely is not from Hagel Circle to Halley). Parents are less likely to come to school conferences or events. Kids feel disconnected from the larger school community and it creates absenteeism.

I’m a South County parent although my kids are still in ES. If they move in Sangster’s small attendance island and most of HV south of the Parkway and don’t make any moves out, SCMS and HS are going to be overcrowded. No, I don’t really care which areas stay or go or come in to our boundaries in terms of the SES and which could give our school more “prestige,” I knew how the demographics were here when I bought and knew that it was a much larger income range compared to WS or Burke which seem more uniformly middle and UMC. But we can’t have a move in of a few hundred kids from WS and LB without a move out. Also worth noting there is significant room for development in Lorton - so a big new neighborhood could pop up at any moment, making the schools even more crowded and leading to “oops we need to make another boundary adjustment in 5-10 years” and a lot of instability.

Shhh… you can’t say that here.

+1 South County and WSHS are both closer to my home than Lewis, which is the school we are zoned for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HV will go to Lewis. SC will have room.

They will move all of HV to Lewis. And move the rest of Rolling Valley to WSHS.

Yup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HV will go to Lewis. SC will have room.

They will move all of HV to Lewis. And move the rest of Rolling Valley to WSHS.

It seems like this is one person quoting themselves repeatedly, trying to make fetch happen.

Of all the Hunt Valley options, Hunt Valley to Lewis makes the least sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It was Crestwood.

Listening on line and the Board seems to not know what is going on or even to have any power. The consultants appear to be running the show.

That’s shocking. That wasn’t on any of the maps and they are pretty close to Lewis (well, all of Lewis’s boundaries are fairly close except perhaps the furthest ends of Saratoga).

Do we think this is some kind of move of Crestwood to WSHS and Hunt Valley to Lewis?

makes sense. HV is 200 more students than crestwood. so that adds students to Lewis which is underenrolled and reduces WSHS by 200 which is overenrolled. crestwood is also 50% FARMs and ESL while HV is like 10%. this helps with equitable outcomes between the schools.

Can someone explain how what they’re proposing to Halley and Gunston is equitable? They’re moving the Hagel Circle attendance island from Halley to Gunston (even though it’s still going to technically be an island). Hagel Circle is almost entirely FARMS. Halley will lose the majority of FARMS kids while Gunston will likely become a Title 1 school. In exchange for the increased students from Hagel Circle, they’re planning to move out a middle class neighborhood to Island Creek.

Bussing a low income neighborhood to a higher income school doesn’t work. Every neighborhood should be attending its closest school and this is extra true for lower income areas. Transportation is a real concern in high FARMS areas because not every household has a car, or maybe they only have 1 car for the whole household with multiple adults working in different areas. So if your kid misses the bus, there’s no way for them to get to school if walking isn’t realistic (which it absolutely is not from Hagel Circle to Halley). Parents are less likely to come to school conferences or events. Kids feel disconnected from the larger school community and it creates absenteeism.

I’m a South County parent although my kids are still in ES. If they move in Sangster’s small attendance island and most of HV south of the Parkway and don’t make any moves out, SCMS and HS are going to be overcrowded. No, I don’t really care which areas stay or go or come in to our boundaries in terms of the SES and which could give our school more “prestige,” I knew how the demographics were here when I bought and knew that it was a much larger income range compared to WS or Burke which seem more uniformly middle and UMC. But we can’t have a move in of a few hundred kids from WS and LB without a move out. Also worth noting there is significant room for development in Lorton - so a big new neighborhood could pop up at any moment, making the schools even more crowded and leading to “oops we need to make another boundary adjustment in 5-10 years” and a lot of instability.

Shhh… you can’t say that here.

+1 South County and WSHS are both closer to my home than Lewis, which is the school we are zoned for.

LBSS is closer to my home than Woodson, but my closest elementary is in the Woodson pyramid (and for other kids in the ES, Woodson is closer). It's not always straightforward to put your kid at the shortest drive school with no split feeders at any point while they stay in the same school pyramid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HV will go to Lewis. SC will have room.

They will move all of HV to Lewis. And move the rest of Rolling Valley to WSHS.

It seems like this is one person quoting themselves repeatedly, trying to make fetch happen.

Of all the Hunt Valley options, Hunt Valley to Lewis makes the least sense.

Yes there are some die hard posters on here since the beginning they said HV shouldn’t to Lewis.

Granted the “rumored” leaked maps did indicate that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HV will go to Lewis. SC will have room.

They will move all of HV to Lewis. And move the rest of Rolling Valley to WSHS.

It seems like this is one person quoting themselves repeatedly, trying to make fetch happen.

Of all the Hunt Valley options, Hunt Valley to Lewis makes the least sense.

Yes there are some die hard posters on here since the beginning they said HV shouldn’t to Lewis.

Granted the “rumored” leaked maps did indicate that.

The ones that didn’t actually exist? Those maps?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HV will go to Lewis. SC will have room.

They will move all of HV to Lewis. And move the rest of Rolling Valley to WSHS.

It seems like this is one person quoting themselves repeatedly, trying to make fetch happen.

Of all the Hunt Valley options, Hunt Valley to Lewis makes the least sense.

Makes sense to move the rest of rolling valley to WSHS. Also makes sense to move to school farthest from WSHS out of there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:HV will go to Lewis. SC will have room.

They will move all of HV to Lewis. And move the rest of Rolling Valley to WSHS.

It seems like this is one person quoting themselves repeatedly, trying to make fetch happen.

Of all the Hunt Valley options, Hunt Valley to Lewis makes the least sense.

I think there’s a hunt valley parent on here that is really scared. Perhaps they live in an area that used to be Lewis?