Trump blaming minorities for the crash.

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Anonymous wrote:The night before an airplane moved away and circled around for another approach to avoid being hit by a helicopter.


Source?


Helicopters flying along Potomac frequently pose dangers to passenger jets

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/01/30/dc-helicopters-potomac-river-dangers/
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Anonymous wrote:Trump is a master at tapping into the viseceral hatred much of the country has for the Democrats and their diversity politicies.

I mean Trump IS right when he showed all of the diversity insanity the FAA uses to hire candidates. Be 10000% honest, do you give a single flying F about whether a candidate is a quadriplegic, whether there aren't enough dwarves who are ATCs and the race of people manning the traffic of the skies while you are a passenger? Hell no. All you care about is landing safely and alive. Yet that's exactly what the FAA was forced to consider under Biden and Obama.... whether heightism and not enough mentally handicapped individuals are represented as ATCs. Utter and complete lunacy.

This is exactly why Trump won and why Democrats got smoked.


Please explain in detail what exactly you think is the problem? If there is a shortage of ATC then why wouldn’t you analyze your internal policies to see if you can expand the hiring pool?


The problem is that whether or not you're dwarf, a quadriplegic, your race, or if you have a learning disability takes precedent over qualifications and aptitude. None of those things should have any weight in the hiring process. Period. Yet Biden and Obama ramrod it through and force this junk. That's why everyone hates the Democrats.

Good grief. I want to be alive after flying. I don't give a rat's ass whether there are enough ATCs with learning disabilities who are represented in the tower or what the average height is for your crew. Utter insanity.


The FAA is not only ATCs, there are plenty of regular old office jobs. We haven’t had a commercial crash like this since 2009 so clearly they are doing something right.



Trump was taking about ATCs. He showed the document with the insane DEIngsr garbage they use during the press conference.

Imagine forcing people with learning disabilities into ATC roles for diversity purposes. Just nuts.

The way USA does diversity is utterly insane and mindless. Just no common sense at all. It's all fake facade superficial garbage that is putting peoples' lives at risk now.


None of what you're saying is true. Just shut up already.
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Anonymous wrote:Most of you probably aren't old enough to remember Reagan fired over 11,000 air traffic controllers in 1991 and then there was a terrible plane crash in DC in 1982. Republican Presidents don't believe in regulations and the public suffers.



WTAF are talking about? Reagan was out of office for 3 years and back digging post holes on his ranch in 1991.

You have zero credibility.


They mis-typed and corrected it later. He fired the controllers in 1981. They've been under-staffed ever since. Not even lying.


They were fired because they went on strike. It is against the law for Federal employees to strike.
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Anonymous wrote:You can see on the video that the helicopter runs straight into the plane, and should have seen it right in front of them from a ways back. You can hear the controller ask if they see it, hear them say yes, and tell them to go behind it. Instead, they went into it.

How is this the controller's fault? It's clearly the fault of the army. Why are they having "training" flights right in a major flight zone? Why didn't they see the plane right in front of them?

Whatever the reason, it almost certainly leads straight back to some stupid thing someone in the new admin did, and they are deflecting by suggesting the controller did something wrong because they only got the job as a minority. But....wasn't the controller white??


The controller was doing the work of two.
Air traffic control is understaffed.

It was a year ago that Washington Times had an editorial about FAA not hiring air traffic controllers for being white.


Guess they shouldn’t have rejected 3,00 qualified white applicants on the basis of race and quotas.


Can you MAGAs please stop saying stuff like this without citing a reputable source.


It happened during the Obama years. This is a long read but it’s enlightening. And disturbing.



Maybe they weren't qualified.



They weren’t qualified. They were white.


If they’re not qualified, who cares if they’re white.


You idiots are stooping to the level of Trump with all this skin color ridiculousness. Grow up.

If there is something that can be fairly questioned at this point, it's why training/maintenance flights involving helicopters flying at 300 feet are happening that close to major airports in a routine manner. Too much air traffic with too many flight path variables for this not to have been an accident waiting to happen.


They have to train there because they serve as taxi service for congresspeople who need to be flown around DC. This is true. I don't understand why we are flying these people around. That needs to stop ASAP.
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Anonymous wrote:I just can’t believe people actually vote for him. It’s only been 10 days and it’s been a shi$how.

Four more years of this crap, every day!

God help us!


Things Trump did wrong: Pardon some of the J6 criminals who attacked police. He was wrong to bring DEI and blame to today's press conference really bad move.

Things Trump has done well: Quick action EO. Deportation will be popular especially the Columbia compromise. Mandatory RTO and the purging of career feds will be popular.

The rest is neutral on party lines


Purging of career Feds will not be long term popular. It will not save money and you apparently have no idea what Feds do or how their jobs are funded.
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Anonymous wrote:I just can’t believe people actually vote for him. It’s only been 10 days and it’s been a shi$how.

Four more years of this crap, every day!

God help us!


Things Trump did wrong: Pardon some of the J6 criminals who attacked police. He was wrong to bring DEI and blame to today's press conference really bad move.

Things Trump has done well: Quick action EO. Deportation will be popular especially the Columbia compromise. Mandatory RTO and the purging of career feds will be popular.

The rest is neutral on party lines


Purging of career Feds will not be long term popular. It will not save money and you apparently have no idea what Feds do or how their jobs are funded.


Agreed.

Also mandatory RTO is going to cost taxpayers even more money.

Oh well- who cares about the deficit or fiscal responsibility?
Anonymous
We went from supposed "DEI hires" where no accidents happened to the DUI hire Pete Hegseth where right out of the gate we have the worst air disaster in 25 years and the guy couldn't even be bothered to show up for the press conference over how a military helo took out a passenger plane full of ice skating kids. What's the deal, still drunk? Hangover?
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Anonymous wrote:The night before an airplane moved away and circled around for another approach to avoid being hit by a helicopter.


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Lots of near misses PP.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pilots-recall-problems-washington-airport-after-fatal-crash-2025-01-30/

And traffic has been increased in the DC airspace with more direct flights to tiny markets due to pressure from members of Congress who want quick flights back home.


Entitled jackasses can't be bothered to take the new train out to Dulles. Meanwhile DCA is WAY too busy.
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Anonymous wrote:You can see on the video that the helicopter runs straight into the plane, and should have seen it right in front of them from a ways back. You can hear the controller ask if they see it, hear them say yes, and tell them to go behind it. Instead, they went into it.

How is this the controller's fault? It's clearly the fault of the army. Why are they having "training" flights right in a major flight zone? Why didn't they see the plane right in front of them?

Whatever the reason, it almost certainly leads straight back to some stupid thing someone in the new admin did, and they are deflecting by suggesting the controller did something wrong because they only got the job as a minority. But....wasn't the controller white??


The controller was doing the work of two.
Air traffic control is understaffed.

It was a year ago that Washington Times had an editorial about FAA not hiring air traffic controllers for being white.


Guess they shouldn’t have rejected 3,00 qualified white applicants on the basis of race and quotas.


Can you MAGAs please stop saying stuff like this without citing a reputable source.


It happened during the Obama years. This is a long read but it’s enlightening. And disturbing.



Maybe they weren't qualified.



They weren’t qualified. They were white.


If they’re not qualified, who cares if they’re white.


You idiots are stooping to the level of Trump with all this skin color ridiculousness. Grow up.

If there is something that can be fairly questioned at this point, it's why training/maintenance flights involving helicopters flying at 300 feet are happening that close to major airports in a routine manner. Too much air traffic with too many flight path variables for this not to have been an accident waiting to happen.


They have to train there because they serve as taxi service for congresspeople who need to be flown around DC. This is true. I don't understand why we are flying these people around. That needs to stop ASAP.


No training exercise or real thing air taxi service should be flying in and out of commercial jet flight paths that close to a major airport. Disaster waiting to happen.
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DEI this DEI that everything is the fault of DEI.

The man is deranged.

If there ever was a derangement syndrome or mind virus it's the wacko MAGA obsession with DEI.
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Anonymous wrote:I just can’t believe people actually vote for him. It’s only been 10 days and it’s been a shi$how.

Four more years of this crap, every day!

God help us!


Things Trump did wrong: Pardon some of the J6 criminals who attacked police. He was wrong to bring DEI and blame to today's press conference really bad move.

Things Trump has done well: Quick action EO. Deportation will be popular especially the Columbia compromise. Mandatory RTO and the purging of career feds will be popular.

The rest is neutral on party lines


Purging of career Feds will not be long term popular. It will not save money and you apparently have no idea what Feds do or how their jobs are funded.


Right - we have understaffed Air Traffic Control Towers, with this 1 guy reportedly doing the work of 2, yet he and the other controllers that were there probably received the dumb “Fork in the road” email earlier that day.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just can’t believe people actually vote for him. It’s only been 10 days and it’s been a shi$how.

Four more years of this crap, every day!

God help us!


Things Trump did wrong: Pardon some of the J6 criminals who attacked police. He was wrong to bring DEI and blame to today's press conference really bad move.

Things Trump has done well: Quick action EO. Deportation will be popular especially the Columbia compromise. Mandatory RTO and the purging of career feds will be popular.

The rest is neutral on party lines


Purging of career Feds will not be long term popular. It will not save money and you apparently have no idea what Feds do or how their jobs are funded.


Right - we have understaffed Air Traffic Control Towers, with this 1 guy reportedly doing the work of 2, yet he and the other controllers that were there probably received the dumb “Fork in the road” email earlier that day.


Understaffed, overworked, freeze on backfills, demoralized by Trump and Musk's deranged demonization of feds, their jobs threatened, even more cuts and pointless but draconian nonsense proposed, accused of being "DEI hires" despite meeting very stringent health standards and qualifications, being spammed with bizarre "buy out" emails that are probably a scam... yeah I'm sure those guys in the tower are top o' the world right now.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just can’t believe people actually vote for him. It’s only been 10 days and it’s been a shi$how.

Four more years of this crap, every day!

God help us!


Things Trump did wrong: Pardon some of the J6 criminals who attacked police. He was wrong to bring DEI and blame to today's press conference really bad move.

Things Trump has done well: Quick action EO. Deportation will be popular especially the Columbia compromise. Mandatory RTO and the purging of career feds will be popular.

The rest is neutral on party lines


Purging of career Feds will not be long term popular. It will not save money and you apparently have no idea what Feds do or how their jobs are funded.


Right - we have understaffed Air Traffic Control Towers, with this 1 guy reportedly doing the work of 2, yet he and the other controllers that were there probably received the dumb “Fork in the road” email earlier that day.


Trump said he’s getting rid of DEI b/c the govt needs the best and the brightest. But honestly, who in their right mind would want to work for this government. He started accusing the black hawk crew of being intellectually disabled before knowing anything about them. Imagine how their families must feel. It’s truly disgusting. Govt employees, especially those in hard dangerous jobs need to know their employer has their back. It’s such an incredible breach of trust the way he is treating federal employees. This is certainly not the way to get the best and the brightest.
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Anonymous wrote:Here is what we know. We have a limited number of facts about exactly what happened and what seems to indicate is that the pilot was at error over the air traffic controller.

We have a president who rather than acknowledging that this is a tragedy where many good people died. He instead immediately wants to attack and blame and use divisive language.

Rather than acknowledge that He has continued to demonstrate abysmal, leadership skills and no empathy or compassion. In this moment we are instead are going over which kind of insane half-baked lie is got any kind of kernel of Truth.

This is what he wants. He doesn't want to take any kind of responsibility or leadership he wants to lie and then hope that everyone will be busy dissecting all of his lies so that he can move on to the next lie.


Don’t disagree. But at the end of the day a U.S. government helicopter slammed into a commercial aircraft and 67 people are dead.

This has never ever happened before.

The buck stops with Trump whether he likes it or not. All the flailing and lying doesn’t change the reality of what happened on his watch.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He should hope of bunch of Air Traffic Controllers don’t resign. It sounds like it wasn’t the controllers fault, but the President then went on a bashing spree blaming them for something horrific happening. Could you imagine the guilt that Air Traffic Controller is feeling right now that people died on their watch even if they did their job right, just to be dragged through the mud by the most powerful person in the country?


Right. They should sue him for defamation.
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