Lebanon / Israel

Anonymous
This was terrorism by Israel. I can’t believe the US hasn’t condemned it yet (or did I miss it?).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This was terrorism by Israel. I can’t believe the US hasn’t condemned it yet (or did I miss it?).


Terrorism?

Not even close. Attacking enemy combatants during a state of conflict does not even come close to falling within the definition of "terrorism".

You could try to argue that this is a "war crime", but I don't see much of a case for that under international law either.

Anonymous
Hezbollah is well-armed and backed by Iran.

ICYMI: Hezbollah has fired 5k missiles at Israel in the last couple months…no clue why there hasn’t been more media coverage of that fact.

I am baffled by critics who think Israel is just itching for war just for funsies. They are trying to get out in front of a likely well orchestrated, Iran-backed attack. They strategically disrupted their communications by blowing up the pagers. They are seemingly doing a precise job to thwart or deter attacks…in response to…again…thousands of missiles recently launched by the terror group hezbolah.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This was terrorism by Israel. I can’t believe the US hasn’t condemned it yet (or did I miss it?).


There is no solid evidence Israel was behind this situation.
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Anonymous wrote:No need for a ceasefire. Only surrender.


DP.

I think that this is the unspoken position of the current Israeli government.

10/7 convinced them that they needed to fundamentally alter the regional security dynamic.

They're working to completely eliminate Hamas's infrastructure and fighting capabilities and (at a minimum) deter Hezbollah and Iran.

Possible that they'll go further against Hezbollah and attempt to permanently degrade their capabilities as well.

Will be very interesting to see how this ends.

At a minimum, it looks like 10/7 will be to Palestinians what Pearl Harbor was to Japan in WW2--a stunning tactical victory that ends in a catastrophic strategic defeat.



Given how many members of Hezbollah are permanently injured and disfigured by the pager attack, I think that the organization's operational capacity is already permanently degraded. They are going to have to use couriers to organize complicated attack plans. Rocket attacks require able bodied men to move materials, set up, and launch. Hundreds of Hezbollah members have permanent eye damage/blinded by the pager explosions. They will be utterly useless moving forward.


They were emasculated.

Think about where men carry pagers (front pocket of their pants).


What the f is wrong with you. You people are sick. You are so fixated on sexual assault and mutilating genitals of Palestinians. Why does this get you so excited?

Hezbollah has ballistic and supersonic missiles that Iron Dome will not work against. Israel is over committed in Gaza and Hamas is stronger today vs before Oct 7. Israel will have to go to full mobilization and the ultra orthodox is refusing to fight. Israel is so f’ed.



Hezbollah aren't Palestinians. They are mostly Shi'a from the Beqaa Valley in Lebanon. Most Lebanese despise Hezbollah for the instability and factionalism they've brought to the country.


Hezbollah is a Shi’a. Nearly all Palestinians are Sunni.

Hezbollah are a designated terrorist organization and are vile opportunists at present. They do not really support the Sunni Gazans at all.
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Anonymous wrote:No need for a ceasefire. Only surrender.


DP.

I think that this is the unspoken position of the current Israeli government.

10/7 convinced them that they needed to fundamentally alter the regional security dynamic.

They're working to completely eliminate Hamas's infrastructure and fighting capabilities and (at a minimum) deter Hezbollah and Iran.

Possible that they'll go further against Hezbollah and attempt to permanently degrade their capabilities as well.

Will be very interesting to see how this ends.

At a minimum, it looks like 10/7 will be to Palestinians what Pearl Harbor was to Japan in WW2--a stunning tactical victory that ends in a catastrophic strategic defeat.



Given how many members of Hezbollah are permanently injured and disfigured by the pager attack, I think that the organization's operational capacity is already permanently degraded. They are going to have to use couriers to organize complicated attack plans. Rocket attacks require able bodied men to move materials, set up, and launch. Hundreds of Hezbollah members have permanent eye damage/blinded by the pager explosions. They will be utterly useless moving forward.


They were emasculated.

Think about where men carry pagers (front pocket of their pants).


What the f is wrong with you. You people are sick. You are so fixated on sexual assault and mutilating genitals of Palestinians. Why does this get you so excited?

Hezbollah has ballistic and supersonic missiles that Iron Dome will not work against. Israel is over committed in Gaza and Hamas is stronger today vs before Oct 7. Israel will have to go to full mobilization and the ultra orthodox is refusing to fight. Israel is so f’ed.


How dumb are you? Hezbollah are not Palestinians.

They are not even Sunni.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:This was terrorism by Israel. I can’t believe the US hasn’t condemned it yet (or did I miss it?).


There is no solid evidence Israel was behind this situation.


Thank you for reminding us of your position for the 47th time. It's adding a great deal of substance to the discussion.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Israel cannot fight two ground wars at the same time. This operation just ended the risk that Israel would need to engage Hezbollah in a ground war. Hezbollah has been continually escalating for the past six months and it was getting dangerously close to Israel being pulled into a 2nd war or - at the very least - a sustained air campaign that would have catastrophic effects on Lebanese civilians.

This pager sabotage operation actually saved many thousands of civilian lives on both side of the border.

Further, it needs to be reiterated that Hezbollah just killed 12 Druze children playing soccer on a playground in northern Israel just last month with their rockets.

Yes, war sucks.


When Israel blows up kids by bombing building where they know there are children and when kids are starved through the denial of aid, the response is, "Accidents happen in war"

When an errant missile fired by Hezbollah is shot down and land on children playing soccer, "Hezbollah is the greatest of terrorists and war criminals".

Anyone with half a brain watching can see what is happening here..
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This was terrorism by Israel. I can’t believe the US hasn’t condemned it yet (or did I miss it?).


There is no solid evidence Israel was behind this situation.


Thank you for reminding us of your position for the 47th time. It's adding a great deal of substance to the discussion.



If you are too dumb to accept BBC as a legitimate news source, then sorry:

- I can’t help you with your delusions and conspiracy theories:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cew12r5qe1ro
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This was terrorism by Israel. I can’t believe the US hasn’t condemned it yet (or did I miss it?).


There is no solid evidence Israel was behind this situation.


Thank you for reminding us of your position for the 47th time. It's adding a great deal of substance to the discussion.



If you are too dumb to accept BBC as a legitimate news source, then sorry:

- I can’t help you with your delusions and conspiracy theories:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cew12r5qe1ro


You're funny.

Incessant repetition will definitely help you win friends and influence people.

You're funny.

Incessant repetition will definitely help you win friends and influence people.

You're funny.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel cannot fight two ground wars at the same time. This operation just ended the risk that Israel would need to engage Hezbollah in a ground war. Hezbollah has been continually escalating for the past six months and it was getting dangerously close to Israel being pulled into a 2nd war or - at the very least - a sustained air campaign that would have catastrophic effects on Lebanese civilians.

This pager sabotage operation actually saved many thousands of civilian lives on both side of the border.

Further, it needs to be reiterated that Hezbollah just killed 12 Druze children playing soccer on a playground in northern Israel just last month with their rockets.

Yes, war sucks.


Hezbollah has said multiple times they will stop the rocket attacks if there is a ceasefire in Gaza.

Israel has killed over 150 civilians in Lebanon in the past 11 months. That is civilians, not Hezbollah.

That number includes a journalist for Reuters, paramedics, and many children.

I don't think the life of an Israeli kid is worth more than a Druze kid or a Lebanese kid or a Palestinian kid.

The best way to stop the Lebanon and Israel war is to get a ceasefire in Gaza. Which Netanyahu and his cronies don't want.

https://apnews.com/article/lebanon-israel-airstrike-nabatiyeh-294288635bb489fdefd8d36978651554
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-tank-strike-killed-clearly-identifiable-reuters-reporter-un-report-2024-03-13/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/lebanese-paramedics-killed-israeli-strike-border-fighting-intensifies-2024-09-07/


Let's at least be honest about recent history--the first rocket attack from Hezbollah after October 7th came on October 8th. Israel hadn't even finished assessing the damage from the day before, let alone begun their movement into Gaza at that point. So while I absolutely support a ceasefire, I also will not give Hezbollah some kind of pass for being anything other than a terrorist organization that saw October 7th as the excuse they needed to attack Israel as soon and as often as they could.


Ah yes, history started on October 7th, please ignore every Israel attack against Lebanon (and the West bank, and Syria, and Iran) before then.


Let's also ignore 1947-48, when Arabs and Palestinians launched a war to annihilate Israel on the very day it was created.

That act of violence is the original sin that has given rise to everything since.

Competes with Hitler's invasion of Russia for the most idiotic move of the 20th century.


Let's go back to July 22, 1946 when the terrorist Zionists bombed the King David hotel - pretending to be Arabs in hopes that the British Military would vacate... Then let us ask ourselves what other atrocities and lies we may have missed...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This was terrorism by Israel. I can’t believe the US hasn’t condemned it yet (or did I miss it?).

Agree. Children were killed. Random people were affected. In markets, streets, etc. But once again, the US shows that only Jewish/Israeli lives matter in that part of the world. And when they strike back everyone cries “but why do they hate us?!”

Maybe if you stopped blindly supporting a murderous regime (Israel) they would stop hating us.
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It is time the US walks away for Israel. Everything Israel stands for is the exact opposite of what the US is all about.


+100 and hopefully Kamala will make good on her promise to do exactly that. It’s time to cut ties with the zionists.
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Anonymous wrote:No need for a ceasefire. Only surrender.


DP.

I think that this is the unspoken position of the current Israeli government.

10/7 convinced them that they needed to fundamentally alter the regional security dynamic.

They're working to completely eliminate Hamas's infrastructure and fighting capabilities and (at a minimum) deter Hezbollah and Iran.

Possible that they'll go further against Hezbollah and attempt to permanently degrade their capabilities as well.

Will be very interesting to see how this ends.

At a minimum, it looks like 10/7 will be to Palestinians what Pearl Harbor was to Japan in WW2--a stunning tactical victory that ends in a catastrophic strategic defeat.



Given how many members of Hezbollah are permanently injured and disfigured by the pager attack, I think that the organization's operational capacity is already permanently degraded. They are going to have to use couriers to organize complicated attack plans. Rocket attacks require able bodied men to move materials, set up, and launch. Hundreds of Hezbollah members have permanent eye damage/blinded by the pager explosions. They will be utterly useless moving forward.


Their sons, brothers, and cousins will rise to fill their place. No one in that region looking at Gaza doesn't feel sympathy for the Gazans. Now that they've blown up their friends and relatives, you better believe the people will rise up. Could you imagine what the US would do if the british government attacked members of the libertarian or green party through such an act? You better believe I would take up arms if they blew up my way too liberal brother or my racist nutty uncle. Human nature is strong.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No need for a ceasefire. Only surrender.


DP.

I think that this is the unspoken position of the current Israeli government.

10/7 convinced them that they needed to fundamentally alter the regional security dynamic.

They're working to completely eliminate Hamas's infrastructure and fighting capabilities and (at a minimum) deter Hezbollah and Iran.

Possible that they'll go further against Hezbollah and attempt to permanently degrade their capabilities as well.

Will be very interesting to see how this ends.

At a minimum, it looks like 10/7 will be to Palestinians what Pearl Harbor was to Japan in WW2--a stunning tactical victory that ends in a catastrophic strategic defeat.



Given how many members of Hezbollah are permanently injured and disfigured by the pager attack, I think that the organization's operational capacity is already permanently degraded. They are going to have to use couriers to organize complicated attack plans. Rocket attacks require able bodied men to move materials, set up, and launch. Hundreds of Hezbollah members have permanent eye damage/blinded by the pager explosions. They will be utterly useless moving forward.


They were emasculated.

Think about where men carry pagers (front pocket of their pants).


What the f is wrong with you. You people are sick. You are so fixated on sexual assault and mutilating genitals of Palestinians. Why does this get you so excited?

Hezbollah has ballistic and supersonic missiles that Iron Dome will not work against. Israel is over committed in Gaza and Hamas is stronger today vs before Oct 7. Israel will have to go to full mobilization and the ultra orthodox is refusing to fight. Israel is so f’ed.


+1. It is barbaric what the people on here are supporting.
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