Lebanon / Israel

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another thing that's not clear is how these explosives didn't seem to leave a chemical detection trail. Was it the batteries after all, or was something else done to avoid detection?

It may well have been defective batteries, and not an attack at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No need for a ceasefire. Only surrender.

Yes.

Hamas needs to surrender and disband.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No need for a ceasefire. Only surrender.

DP.

I think that this is the unspoken position of the current Israeli government.

10/7 convinced them that they needed to fundamentally alter the regional security dynamic.

They're working to completely eliminate Hamas's infrastructure and fighting capabilities and (at a minimum) deter Hezbollah and Iran.

Possible that they'll go further against Hezbollah and attempt to permanently degrade their capabilities as well.

Will be very interesting to see how this ends.

At a minimum, it looks like 10/7 will be to Palestinians what Pearl Harbor was to Japan in WW2--a stunning tactical victory that ends in a catastrophic strategic defeat.

Given how many members of Hezbollah are permanently injured and disfigured by the pager attack, I think that the organization's operational capacity is already permanently degraded. They are going to have to use couriers to organize complicated attack plans. Rocket attacks require able bodied men to move materials, set up, and launch. Hundreds of Hezbollah members have permanent eye damage/blinded by the pager explosions. They will be utterly useless moving forward.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another thing that's not clear is how these explosives didn't seem to leave a chemical detection trail. Was it the batteries after all, or was something else done to avoid detection?

It may well have been defective batteries, and not an attack at all.

It’s pretty obvious what it was. Mossad installed remote detonated explosives into the pagers and walkie talkies and then had someone (or likely more than one person) sell them to Hezbollah.

It’s a clever intel operation, but not that technically difficult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another thing that's not clear is how these explosives didn't seem to leave a chemical detection trail. Was it the batteries after all, or was something else done to avoid detection?

It may well have been defective batteries, and not an attack at all.

It’s pretty obvious what it was. Mossad installed remote detonated explosives into the pagers and walkie talkies and then had someone (or likely more than one person) sell them to Hezbollah.

It’s a clever intel operation, but not that technically difficult.

The pagers have been traced back to Hungary, and Taiwan.

There is no evidence Israel was involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another thing that's not clear is how these explosives didn't seem to leave a chemical detection trail. Was it the batteries after all, or was something else done to avoid detection?

It may well have been defective batteries, and not an attack at all.

It’s pretty obvious what it was. Mossad installed remote detonated explosives into the pagers and walkie talkies and then had someone (or likely more than one person) sell them to Hezbollah.

It’s a clever intel operation, but not that technically difficult.

The pagers have been traced back to Hungary, and Taiwan.

There is no evidence Israel was involved.

Mossad is smart enough to backstop their operations.

Why would Hungary or Taiwan want to kill Hezbollah militants?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No need for a ceasefire. Only surrender.

DP.

I think that this is the unspoken position of the current Israeli government.

10/7 convinced them that they needed to fundamentally alter the regional security dynamic.

They're working to completely eliminate Hamas's infrastructure and fighting capabilities and (at a minimum) deter Hezbollah and Iran.

Possible that they'll go further against Hezbollah and attempt to permanently degrade their capabilities as well.

Will be very interesting to see how this ends.

At a minimum, it looks like 10/7 will be to Palestinians what Pearl Harbor was to Japan in WW2--a stunning tactical victory that ends in a catastrophic strategic defeat.

Given how many members of Hezbollah are permanently injured and disfigured by the pager attack, I think that the organization's operational capacity is already permanently degraded. They are going to have to use couriers to organize complicated attack plans. Rocket attacks require able bodied men to move materials, set up, and launch. Hundreds of Hezbollah members have permanent eye damage/blinded by the pager explosions. They will be utterly useless moving forward.

They were emasculated.

Think about where men carry pagers (front pocket of their pants).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No need for a ceasefire. Only surrender.

DP.

I think that this is the unspoken position of the current Israeli government.

10/7 convinced them that they needed to fundamentally alter the regional security dynamic.

They're working to completely eliminate Hamas's infrastructure and fighting capabilities and (at a minimum) deter Hezbollah and Iran.

Possible that they'll go further against Hezbollah and attempt to permanently degrade their capabilities as well.

Will be very interesting to see how this ends.

At a minimum, it looks like 10/7 will be to Palestinians what Pearl Harbor was to Japan in WW2--a stunning tactical victory that ends in a catastrophic strategic defeat.

Given how many members of Hezbollah are permanently injured and disfigured by the pager attack, I think that the organization's operational capacity is already permanently degraded. They are going to have to use couriers to organize complicated attack plans. Rocket attacks require able bodied men to move materials, set up, and launch. Hundreds of Hezbollah members have permanent eye damage/blinded by the pager explosions. They will be utterly useless moving forward.

They were emasculated.

Think about where men carry pagers (front pocket of their pants).

What the f is wrong with you. You people are sick. You are so fixated on sexual assault and mutilating genitals of Palestinians. Why does this get you so excited?

Hezbollah has ballistic and supersonic missiles that Iron Dome will not work against. Israel is over committed in Gaza and Hamas is stronger today vs before Oct 7. Israel will have to go to full mobilization and the ultra orthodox is refusing to fight. Israel is so f’ed.

[Anonymous]

Getting paper tiger vibes:

Nasrallah just said he will not discuss any details of how Hezbollah could respond to Israel for the explosions. “I will not speak about time, or form, or place,” he said. “This retribution will come.”

Meanwhile, Israeli jets were flying low over Beirut and causing sonic booms simultaneously while Nasrallah was giving his speech on TV.

If you're a normal Lebanese civilian who doesn't like Hezbollah, this is an opportune moment to get rid of them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No need for a ceasefire. Only surrender.

DP.

I think that this is the unspoken position of the current Israeli government.

10/7 convinced them that they needed to fundamentally alter the regional security dynamic.

They're working to completely eliminate Hamas's infrastructure and fighting capabilities and (at a minimum) deter Hezbollah and Iran.

Possible that they'll go further against Hezbollah and attempt to permanently degrade their capabilities as well.

Will be very interesting to see how this ends.

At a minimum, it looks like 10/7 will be to Palestinians what Pearl Harbor was to Japan in WW2--a stunning tactical victory that ends in a catastrophic strategic defeat.

Given how many members of Hezbollah are permanently injured and disfigured by the pager attack, I think that the organization's operational capacity is already permanently degraded. They are going to have to use couriers to organize complicated attack plans. Rocket attacks require able bodied men to move materials, set up, and launch. Hundreds of Hezbollah members have permanent eye damage/blinded by the pager explosions. They will be utterly useless moving forward.

They were emasculated.

Think about where men carry pagers (front pocket of their pants).

What the f is wrong with you. You people are sick. You are so fixated on sexual assault and mutilating genitals of Palestinians. Why does this get you so excited?

Hezbollah has ballistic and supersonic missiles that Iron Dome will not work against. Israel is over committed in Gaza and Hamas is stronger today vs before Oct 7. Israel will have to go to full mobilization and the ultra orthodox is refusing to fight. Israel is so f’ed.

DP. I totally agree that no one should be celebrating anyone's injury or death. (That's exactly the same awful inhumanity shown by the people who celebrated after 10/7).

Separately, the bolded is just flatly incorrect. Hamas has clearly been severely, perhaps irreparably, damaged. It has lost personnel, leadership, and much of its infrastructure. It is far, far less capable than it was on 10/7.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Getting paper tiger vibes:

Nasrallah just said he will not discuss any details of how Hezbollah could respond to Israel for the explosions. “I will not speak about time, or form, or place,” he said. “This retribution will come.”

Meanwhile, Israeli jets were flying low over Beirut and causing sonic booms simultaneously while Nasrallah was giving his speech on TV.

If you're a normal Lebanese civilian who doesn't like Hezbollah, this is an opportune moment to get rid of them.

Why would a normal Lebanese support Israel? They are a terrorist country and during the coming invasion the IDF will target and kill children, doctors, civilian infrastructure, etc. The Lebanese know what Israel is. It does not seem you know what Israel is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting paper tiger vibes:

Nasrallah just said he will not discuss any details of how Hezbollah could respond to Israel for the explosions. “I will not speak about time, or form, or place,” he said. “This retribution will come.”

Meanwhile, Israeli jets were flying low over Beirut and causing sonic booms simultaneously while Nasrallah was giving his speech on TV.

If you're a normal Lebanese civilian who doesn't like Hezbollah, this is an opportune moment to get rid of them.

Why would a normal Lebanese support Israel? They are a terrorist country and during the coming invasion the IDF will target and kill children, doctors, civilian infrastructure, etc. The Lebanese know what Israel is. It does not seem you know what Israel is.

Where did I say normal Lebanese will support Israel?

Civilian Lebanese support Lebanon. Hezbollah is a foreign controlled force with foreign leadership. Right now, Lebanon is a colony of Iran.

[Anonymous]

Hope the US does not aid Israel in any way in this latest debacle. I bet there are already plans for luxury apartments and resorts along the Lebanese coast.

It is time the US walks away for Israel. Everything Israel stands for is the exact opposite of what the US is all about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No need for a ceasefire. Only surrender.

DP.

I think that this is the unspoken position of the current Israeli government.

10/7 convinced them that they needed to fundamentally alter the regional security dynamic.

They're working to completely eliminate Hamas's infrastructure and fighting capabilities and (at a minimum) deter Hezbollah and Iran.

Possible that they'll go further against Hezbollah and attempt to permanently degrade their capabilities as well.

Will be very interesting to see how this ends.

At a minimum, it looks like 10/7 will be to Palestinians what Pearl Harbor was to Japan in WW2--a stunning tactical victory that ends in a catastrophic strategic defeat.

Given how many members of Hezbollah are permanently injured and disfigured by the pager attack, I think that the organization's operational capacity is already permanently degraded. They are going to have to use couriers to organize complicated attack plans. Rocket attacks require able bodied men to move materials, set up, and launch. Hundreds of Hezbollah members have permanent eye damage/blinded by the pager explosions. They will be utterly useless moving forward.

They were emasculated.

Think about where men carry pagers (front pocket of their pants).

What the f is wrong with you. You people are sick. You are so fixated on sexual assault and mutilating genitals of Palestinians. Why does this get you so excited?

Hezbollah has ballistic and supersonic missiles that Iron Dome will not work against. Israel is over committed in Gaza and Hamas is stronger today vs before Oct 7. Israel will have to go to full mobilization and the ultra orthodox is refusing to fight. Israel is so f’ed.

DP. I totally agree that no one should be celebrating anyone's injury or death. (That's exactly the same awful inhumanity shown by the people who celebrated after 10/7).

Separately, the bolded is just flatly incorrect. Hamas has clearly been severely, perhaps irreparably, damaged. It has lost personnel, leadership, and much of its infrastructure. It is far, far less capable than it was on 10/7.

The injured were terrorists. This was a very targeted surgical strike. Very different from people handing out candy celebrating the deaths and rapes of Israeli citizens. Celebrate would not be the word but these terrorists hizbollah deserved their just desserts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No need for a ceasefire. Only surrender.

DP.

I think that this is the unspoken position of the current Israeli government.

10/7 convinced them that they needed to fundamentally alter the regional security dynamic.

They're working to completely eliminate Hamas's infrastructure and fighting capabilities and (at a minimum) deter Hezbollah and Iran.

Possible that they'll go further against Hezbollah and attempt to permanently degrade their capabilities as well.

Will be very interesting to see how this ends.

At a minimum, it looks like 10/7 will be to Palestinians what Pearl Harbor was to Japan in WW2--a stunning tactical victory that ends in a catastrophic strategic defeat.

Given how many members of Hezbollah are permanently injured and disfigured by the pager attack, I think that the organization's operational capacity is already permanently degraded. They are going to have to use couriers to organize complicated attack plans. Rocket attacks require able bodied men to move materials, set up, and launch. Hundreds of Hezbollah members have permanent eye damage/blinded by the pager explosions. They will be utterly useless moving forward.

They were emasculated.

Think about where men carry pagers (front pocket of their pants).

What the f is wrong with you. You people are sick. You are so fixated on sexual assault and mutilating genitals of Palestinians. Why does this get you so excited?

Hezbollah has ballistic and supersonic missiles that Iron Dome will not work against. Israel is over committed in Gaza and Hamas is stronger today vs before Oct 7. Israel will have to go to full mobilization and the ultra orthodox is refusing to fight. Israel is so f’ed.

Hezbollah aren't Palestinians. They are mostly Shi'a from the Beqaa Valley in Lebanon. Most Lebanese despise Hezbollah for the instability and factionalism they've brought to the country.