Trying to compare Boston Colleges for DC

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Anonymous wrote:If you're considering BC, they are still test optional for next year, but if you have above a 1350, they really want you to submit it, especially if that score is high for your community/high school.

To be fair, only 28% of freshmen submitted an SAT score. With other colleges going test mandatory again, look for BC to change in the near future. A metric that isn't published, but should be, is the admission rate for those NOT submitting an SAT score. For BC, I bet it is lower than those who did submit.

For BC Freshman fall 2023, 44% submitted scores, 28% (SAT) + 16% (ACT). DS will start next week but we’ve been given the impression that many more submitted scores this year.

Yes, we were told that many more submitted scores last year at an info session this summer. Also implied that might be going to test required for high school class of 2026.

We were told something similar at both BU and NEU tours. These crazy high SATs, where a 1490 doesn't get submitted makes zero sense. We just look at pre-covid scores and base submit or not on that.
One thing we were told over and over at BU and NEU that if its your top choice, do ED. Most of the q & A revolved around that.

i don't know if it is true or not, but BC has more student athletes because of football, so more ED slots are taken by recruited athletes than at Tufts, BU or NEU.

Yes, BC has D1 athletes, but they don't gobble up the ED spots.
For BC, absolutely go ED1 (or ED2) if it's your top choice. (We're full pay, so I can't say how this actually works but BC says you can get out of the ED agreement if you can't get the FA you expected.)

You can totally get out of ED contracts if the reasonably expected FA isn't there.

It's still annoying that the BU/BC kind of schools are pushing for ED.

I get it for Chicago and Northwestern and Duke and so on. But Tulane and Northeastern?

Goodbye.

I don't love anything I don't know. BC/BU being very presumptuous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're considering BC, they are still test optional for next year, but if you have above a 1350, they really want you to submit it, especially if that score is high for your community/high school.

To be fair, only 28% of freshmen submitted an SAT score. With other colleges going test mandatory again, look for BC to change in the near future. A metric that isn't published, but should be, is the admission rate for those NOT submitting an SAT score. For BC, I bet it is lower than those who did submit.

For BC Freshman fall 2023, 44% submitted scores, 28% (SAT) + 16% (ACT). DS will start next week but we’ve been given the impression that many more submitted scores this year.

Yes, we were told that many more submitted scores last year at an info session this summer. Also implied that might be going to test required for high school class of 2026.

We were told something similar at both BU and NEU tours. These crazy high SATs, where a 1490 doesn't get submitted makes zero sense. We just look at pre-covid scores and base submit or not on that.
One thing we were told over and over at BU and NEU that if its your top choice, do ED. Most of the q & A revolved around that.

i don't know if it is true or not, but BC has more student athletes because of football, so more ED slots are taken by recruited athletes than at Tufts, BU or NEU.

Yes, BC has D1 athletes, but they don't gobble up the ED spots.
For BC, absolutely go ED1 (or ED2) if it's your top choice. (We're full pay, so I can't say how this actually works but BC says you can get out of the ED agreement if you can't get the FA you expected.)

You can totally get out of ED contracts if the reasonably expected FA isn't there.

It's still annoying that the BU/BC kind of schools are pushing for ED.

I get it for Chicago and Northwestern and Duke and so on. But Tulane and Northeastern?

Goodbye.

I don't love anything I don't know. BC/BU being very presumptuous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're considering BC, they are still test optional for next year, but if you have above a 1350, they really want you to submit it, especially if that score is high for your community/high school.

To be fair, only 28% of freshmen submitted an SAT score. With other colleges going test mandatory again, look for BC to change in the near future. A metric that isn't published, but should be, is the admission rate for those NOT submitting an SAT score. For BC, I bet it is lower than those who did submit.

For BC Freshman fall 2023, 44% submitted scores, 28% (SAT) + 16% (ACT). DS will start next week but we’ve been given the impression that many more submitted scores this year.

Yes, we were told that many more submitted scores last year at an info session this summer. Also implied that might be going to test required for high school class of 2026.

We were told something similar at both BU and NEU tours. These crazy high SATs, where a 1490 doesn't get submitted makes zero sense. We just look at pre-covid scores and base submit or not on that.
One thing we were told over and over at BU and NEU that if its your top choice, do ED. Most of the q & A revolved around that.

i don't know if it is true or not, but BC has more student athletes because of football, so more ED slots are taken by recruited athletes than at Tufts, BU or NEU.

Yes, BC has D1 athletes, but they don't gobble up the ED spots.
For BC, absolutely go ED1 (or ED2) if it's your top choice. (We're full pay, so I can't say how this actually works but BC says you can get out of the ED agreement if you can't get the FA you expected.)

You can totally get out of ED contracts if the reasonably expected FA isn't there.

It's still annoying that the BU/BC kind of schools are pushing for ED.

I get it for Chicago and Northwestern and Duke and so on. But Tulane and Northeastern?

Goodbye.

I don't love anything I don't know. BC/BU being very presumptuous.

Makes sense. Since BU, BC and Northeastern are getting more and more kids to apply ED, you think it's a bad idea. Maybe you can email the deans of admission and that'll probably make them stop offering ED because you find it annoying.

Or, they will continue to do what every school craves, getting guaranteed enrollment from a very well-qualified, targeted applicant.

[Anonymous]

What's the share of the freshman class that is filled by ED? I hear on the tour upwards of 60% for these schools.

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Boston College
1,260 ED admits
2,335 freshmen enrolled
54% of class

Boston University
1,791 ED admits
3,145 freshmen enrolled
57% of class

Northeastern University
1,420 ED admits
2,744 freshmen enrolled
52% of class

Tufts University
Does not publish ED information

[Anonymous]

Note that BC has ED1 and ED2, but doesn't break down acceptances between the two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Note that BC has ED1 and ED2, but doesn't break down acceptances between the two.

If the data is correct, in 2022-2023 (so class of 2027), BC had around 4,400 apply early decision. Last year's cycle 2023-2024 (so class of 2028), BC had 4,300 ED applications, so ED applications ticked down just a bit. I think for most schools, ED2 is a harder admit. For one, they have already filled the majority of slots for ED for ED1. Second, the pool of applicants in ED2 tend to be stronger in that many of the students were rejected/deferred EA at an Ivy, etc.

I am not sure if there is a lot of information about the ED1% versus ED2% out there.

With respect to Tufts, when they last reported their data, around 750 students were admitted early decision. This out of approximately 1,700 freshmen. To put it in perspective, in 2017 only 540 students were admitted early decision. It very well may be possible that Tufts has over 1,000 early decision admits by now. There obviously is a marketing/admissions reason for not publishing the information.

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Anonymous wrote:Note that BC has ED1 and ED2, but doesn't break down acceptances between the two.

Remember, Boston College didn't even start offering early decision until 2019. So in just 5 years, they went from no ED to filling half of their class ED.

Look at how crazy it has gotten. Take Boston University and Northeastern:

In 2015-2016, BU received 1,643 ED applications.
In 2019-2020, BU received 4,877.
In 2023-2024, BU received 6,850.

In 2015-2016, NEU received 773 ED applications.
In 2019-2020, NEU received 1,478.
In 2023-2024, NEU received 6,400.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Note that BC has ED1 and ED2, but doesn't break down acceptances between the two.

Remember, Boston College didn't even start offering early decision until 2019. So in just 5 years, they went from no ED to filling half of their class ED.

Look at how crazy it has gotten. Take Boston University and Northeastern:

In 2015-2016, BU received 1,643 ED applications.
In 2019-2020, BU received 4,877.
In 2023-2024, BU received 6,850.

In 2015-2016, NEU received 773 ED applications.
In 2019-2020, NEU received 1,478.
In 2023-2024, NEU received 6,400.

BU and NEU's increase in ED is, in large part, driven by the massive number coming southeast asia. Endless supply of high stat, wealthy Chinese, Indian students.

[Anonymous]

We've tried getting a campus visit for Tufts next week before kiddo starts school, but the calendar was full. The nice lady at admissions said it was full, but to call back early next week. Has anyone just jumped in to a Tufts tour? Does a guided tour get you a lot?

We are especially interested in the Q&A portion to see if questions about SAT, rigor, etc are answered. We have some zoom webinars scheduled also.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're considering BC, they are still test optional for next year, but if you have above a 1350, they really want you to submit it, especially if that score is high for your community/high school.

To be fair, only 28% of freshmen submitted an SAT score. With other colleges going test mandatory again, look for BC to change in the near future. A metric that isn't published, but should be, is the admission rate for those NOT submitting an SAT score. For BC, I bet it is lower than those who did submit.

For BC Freshman fall 2023, 44% submitted scores, 28% (SAT) + 16% (ACT). DS will start next week but we’ve been given the impression that many more submitted scores this year.

Yes, we were told that many more submitted scores last year at an info session this summer. Also implied that might be going to test required for high school class of 2026.

We were told something similar at both BU and NEU tours. These crazy high SATs, where a 1490 doesn't get submitted makes zero sense. We just look at pre-covid scores and base submit or not on that.
One thing we were told over and over at BU and NEU that if its your top choice, do ED. Most of the q & A revolved around that.

i don't know if it is true or not, but BC has more student athletes because of football, so more ED slots are taken by recruited athletes than at Tufts, BU or NEU.

Yes, BC has D1 athletes, but they don't gobble up the ED spots.
For BC, absolutely go ED1 (or ED2) if it's your top choice. (We're full pay, so I can't say how this actually works but BC says you can get out of the ED agreement if you can't get the FA you expected.)

You can totally get out of ED contracts if the reasonably expected FA isn't there.

It's still annoying that the BU/BC kind of schools are pushing for ED.

I get it for Chicago and Northwestern and Duke and so on. But Tulane and Northeastern?

Goodbye.

I don't love anything I don't know. BC/BU being very presumptuous.

There are ton of smart high stat kids who don't have fancy ECs, exotic sports, rich dads, ALDC status.
A lot of these kids are like F the BS and ED to schools like Emory, NYU, CMU, Tufts, BU, BC, Northeastern these days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you're considering BC, they are still test optional for next year, but if you have above a 1350, they really want you to submit it, especially if that score is high for your community/high school.

To be fair, only 28% of freshmen submitted an SAT score. With other colleges going test mandatory again, look for BC to change in the near future. A metric that isn't published, but should be, is the admission rate for those NOT submitting an SAT score. For BC, I bet it is lower than those who did submit.

For BC Freshman fall 2023, 44% submitted scores, 28% (SAT) + 16% (ACT). DS will start next week but we’ve been given the impression that many more submitted scores this year.

Yes, we were told that many more submitted scores last year at an info session this summer. Also implied that might be going to test required for high school class of 2026.

We were told something similar at both BU and NEU tours. These crazy high SATs, where a 1490 doesn't get submitted makes zero sense. We just look at pre-covid scores and base submit or not on that.
One thing we were told over and over at BU and NEU that if its your top choice, do ED. Most of the q & A revolved around that.

i don't know if it is true or not, but BC has more student athletes because of football, so more ED slots are taken by recruited athletes than at Tufts, BU or NEU.

Yes, BC has D1 athletes, but they don't gobble up the ED spots.
For BC, absolutely go ED1 (or ED2) if it's your top choice. (We're full pay, so I can't say how this actually works but BC says you can get out of the ED agreement if you can't get the FA you expected.)

You can totally get out of ED contracts if the reasonably expected FA isn't there.

It's still annoying that the BU/BC kind of schools are pushing for ED.

I get it for Chicago and Northwestern and Duke and so on. But Tulane and Northeastern?

Goodbye.

I don't love anything I don't know. BC/BU being very presumptuous.

There are ton of smart high stat kids who don't have fancy ECs, exotic sports, rich dads, ALDC status.
A lot of these kids are like F the BS and ED to schools like Emory, NYU, CMU, Tufts, BU, BC, Northeastern these days.

Since schools claim that they want EC's which reflect the passion of the student, but everybody knows that if you are trying to get into top college, you need to be president of student government, varsity captain, winner of some academic award plus hundreds of volunteer hours. How many students would trade not having to go through all of that if ED allowed them to skip it? The problem is ED kids are probably some of the most accomplished in those areas.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know what admissions actually says about submitting an SAT score right at or slightly below the 25%? Any tips or insight from those who did official visits, etc and heard direct??

Specifically for Boston Univ, Boston College and Northeastern?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We've tried getting a campus visit for Tufts next week before kiddo starts school, but the calendar was full. The nice lady at admissions said it was full, but to call back early next week. Has anyone just jumped in to a Tufts tour? Does a guided tour get you a lot?

We are especially interested in the Q&A portion to see if questions about SAT, rigor, etc are answered. We have some zoom webinars scheduled also.

Guided tour turned our dd off of Tufts (had been her first choice on paper, but after visiting, it came off of her list). So much of tour depends on the student guide, and they are hit or miss.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We've tried getting a campus visit for Tufts next week before kiddo starts school, but the calendar was full. The nice lady at admissions said it was full, but to call back early next week. Has anyone just jumped in to a Tufts tour? Does a guided tour get you a lot?

We are especially interested in the Q&A portion to see if questions about SAT, rigor, etc are answered. We have some zoom webinars scheduled also.

Guided tour turned our dd off of Tufts (had been her first choice on paper, but after visiting, it came off of her list). So much of tour depends on the student guide, and they are hit or miss.

That is a big thing to happen. Can I ask what happened on the tour? It must have gone pretty bad to go from number 1, to getting taken off the list completely.