Charles Allen faces recall effort

[Anonymous]

El Salvador cleaned up its act. El Salvador!

Look at the Capital of the United States. Shame!

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like people are just looking for a scapegoat instead of trying to formulate a real plan to get us out of this mess. There are a lot of people who messed up to get us here, and just removing one isn’t going to do anything. What’s the real plan here???

I do not think Charles Allen is to entirely blame for the current issues. I think we are dealing with a confluence of issues, exacerbated by the pandemic and made harder to address by the movement to "defund the police," and while I think some of what Allen did with the crime bill contributed to making it worse, I don't think he's the source of the issues.

But I also think he is wholly unqualified to address the current issues and has shown time and again he will not rise to the occasion, so I support a recall because we need people who will meet the moment, before DC slides back into the situation it was in 20 years ago. We have made too much progress to just let it slip away.

I also want Bowser out and would like to see Nadeau and Mendo gone. But not replaced by people like Robert White or Erin Palmer, who ran against them in the last election. White and Palmer are a lot like Allen -- well meaning but unprepared and too afraid to do (or say) what needs to be done.

We need to stop trying to placate people by pretending all crime is just the result of poverty and racism. Did you know there are poor people and black people who don't commit violent crimes? In fact, they are much more likely to be the victim of crime. Why don't we care about them?

It terrifies me that you think this philosophy is problematic

I'm the PP. Why?

I'm terrified of being carjacked with my young child in the backseat, because the idea of my child being harmed, or me being harmed in such away that I can't be with or protect my child, threatens the most fundamental relationship in my life.

But yes, do tell me how scary you think my "philosophy" that people are, on some level, individually culpable for committing crime is.

Because I work with this population and your desire to put them in a little carcerated corner and hope they don't exist is disgusting. These are people too and if you were born in their place you'd feel a lot differently.

To add on, before you "gotcha" me. People that commit crimes should be arrested and prosecuted. That shouldn't preclude us from spending money and allocating resources on supporting underprivileged communities.

That’s what we’re pleading to happen because it hasn’t been. This was a great city in the 2010s.

I agree! Been here since '02. Charles Allen isn't responsible for prosecutions or arrests so this whole thing is really irritating to me

You ever notice that the only people who support Allen publicly are extremely privileged, extremely mediocre white people?

Couldn’t be more obvious. White transplants.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter if Chuck is responsible. He’s now become the symbol of the selfish arrogance and contempt of the DC authorities for its people. He must go.

His toppling will open up the floodgates and it will be much easier to get rid of Nadeau and the cronies.

We can’t stop there and must follow the money to stamp out the cottage industry of bogus consultants that grew around these grifters - from their own spouses and associates to the wrap around service providers run by convicted wife beaters.

Who is this??

[Anonymous]

Violence Interrupters inventor — look him up. “Wife Was 'Beaten Like An Animal,' etc.

It’s just an example. Look up the grifting: Nadeau’s flat, Allen’s wife’s nonprofit, Mendo pay to play etc.

Charles has to go, and then the rest. F that guy. How many more people have to die?

[Anonymous]

Isn’t he under an investigation already himself too?

Can’t wait for People v. Allen. It would be a cosmic justice if he got prosecuted in a city where murderers and rapists don’t largely thanks to him

The most hated man in DC. And that’s inclusive of Trump

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t he under an investigation already himself too?

Can’t wait for People v. Allen. It would be a cosmic justice if he got prosecuted in a city where murderers and rapists don’t largely thanks to him

The most hated man in DC. And that’s inclusive of Trump

He's really not though. There's a nice little chunk of you fools that are loud and in an echo chamber, but the rest of the city doesn't take the bait

[Anonymous]

I’d like to see him go, but someone better needs to run …

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like people are just looking for a scapegoat instead of trying to formulate a real plan to get us out of this mess. There are a lot of people who messed up to get us here, and just removing one isn’t going to do anything. What’s the real plan here???

I do not think Charles Allen is to entirely blame for the current issues. I think we are dealing with a confluence of issues, exacerbated by the pandemic and made harder to address by the movement to "defund the police," and while I think some of what Allen did with the crime bill contributed to making it worse, I don't think he's the source of the issues.

But I also think he is wholly unqualified to address the current issues and has shown time and again he will not rise to the occasion, so I support a recall because we need people who will meet the moment, before DC slides back into the situation it was in 20 years ago. We have made too much progress to just let it slip away.

I also want Bowser out and would like to see Nadeau and Mendo gone. But not replaced by people like Robert White or Erin Palmer, who ran against them in the last election. White and Palmer are a lot like Allen -- well meaning but unprepared and too afraid to do (or say) what needs to be done.

We need to stop trying to placate people by pretending all crime is just the result of poverty and racism. Did you know there are poor people and black people who don't commit violent crimes? In fact, they are much more likely to be the victim of crime. Why don't we care about them?

It terrifies me that you think this philosophy is problematic

I'm the PP. Why?

I'm terrified of being carjacked with my young child in the backseat, because the idea of my child being harmed, or me being harmed in such away that I can't be with or protect my child, threatens the most fundamental relationship in my life.

But yes, do tell me how scary you think my "philosophy" that people are, on some level, individually culpable for committing crime is.

Because I work with this population and your desire to put them in a little carcerated corner and hope they don't exist is disgusting. These are people too and if you were born in their place you'd feel a lot differently.

WHERE did I say I want to put anyone in a "little carcerated corner"?

I said: "We need to stop trying to placate people by pretending all crime is just the result of poverty and racism." Let me be more explicit.

The people we are placating with this are people like you-- activists who hinge their own identities on the "help" they provide for poor, black communities. You are probably white, but you could also be POC from a privileged background.

It is important to people like you to believe that poverty and racism are the sole causes of crime in the communities you work in because you are afraid to allow yourself to evaluate the moral choices of poor black people, and acknowledge some are making immoral, criminal choices. You are afraid that making that assessment is a sign of your own racism.

But I'm so doing, you ignore the many, many members of this community who do NOT make those immoral choices, who deal with the same poverty and racism.

You are so afraid that thinking a young black man who car jacked might actually need/deserve to be incarcerated, because he is violent and terrorizing his own community, means that you are actually racist, that you double down on the idea that the carjacker must simply be a victim of his background. But unless everyone with his background carjacks, he's also making a choice.

Maybe he should be punished for that choice, which oh by the way might result in death, physical harm, or PTSD, for the victim of is crime (who is ALSO a person, one you apparently don't think if at all) so that he can't go make that choice again tomorrow, and make another victim.

But that idea terrified you because you worry you harbor racism and you combat it by pretending the people you are "helping" have absolutely no agency at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t he under an investigation already himself too?

Can’t wait for People v. Allen. It would be a cosmic justice if he got prosecuted in a city where murderers and rapists don’t largely thanks to him

The most hated man in DC. And that’s inclusive of Trump

I am ready for some lawsuits against these fools. All of them. The judges, the prosecutors, the Mayor, the Council. Aren't there any smart lawyers on this board who are tired of what they've done to DC?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like people are just looking for a scapegoat instead of trying to formulate a real plan to get us out of this mess. There are a lot of people who messed up to get us here, and just removing one isn’t going to do anything. What’s the real plan here???

I do not think Charles Allen is to entirely blame for the current issues. I think we are dealing with a confluence of issues, exacerbated by the pandemic and made harder to address by the movement to "defund the police," and while I think some of what Allen did with the crime bill contributed to making it worse, I don't think he's the source of the issues.

But I also think he is wholly unqualified to address the current issues and has shown time and again he will not rise to the occasion, so I support a recall because we need people who will meet the moment, before DC slides back into the situation it was in 20 years ago. We have made too much progress to just let it slip away.

I also want Bowser out and would like to see Nadeau and Mendo gone. But not replaced by people like Robert White or Erin Palmer, who ran against them in the last election. White and Palmer are a lot like Allen -- well meaning but unprepared and too afraid to do (or say) what needs to be done.

We need to stop trying to placate people by pretending all crime is just the result of poverty and racism. Did you know there are poor people and black people who don't commit violent crimes? In fact, they are much more likely to be the victim of crime. Why don't we care about them?

It terrifies me that you think this philosophy is problematic

I'm the PP. Why?

I'm terrified of being carjacked with my young child in the backseat, because the idea of my child being harmed, or me being harmed in such away that I can't be with or protect my child, threatens the most fundamental relationship in my life.

But yes, do tell me how scary you think my "philosophy" that people are, on some level, individually culpable for committing crime is.

Because I work with this population and your desire to put them in a little carcerated corner and hope they don't exist is disgusting. These are people too and if you were born in their place you'd feel a lot differently.

WHERE did I say I want to put anyone in a "little carcerated corner"?

I said: "We need to stop trying to placate people by pretending all crime is just the result of poverty and racism." Let me be more explicit.

The people we are placating with this are people like you-- activists who hinge their own identities on the "help" they provide for poor, black communities. You are probably white, but you could also be POC from a privileged background.

It is important to people like you to believe that poverty and racism are the sole causes of crime in the communities you work in because you are afraid to allow yourself to evaluate the moral choices of poor black people, and acknowledge some are making immoral, criminal choices. You are afraid that making that assessment is a sign of your own racism.

But I'm so doing, you ignore the many, many members of this community who do NOT make those immoral choices, who deal with the same poverty and racism.

You are so afraid that thinking a young black man who car jacked might actually need/deserve to be incarcerated, because he is violent and terrorizing his own community, means that you are actually racist, that you double down on the idea that the carjacker must simply be a victim of his background. But unless everyone with his background carjacks, he's also making a choice.

Maybe he should be punished for that choice, which oh by the way might result in death, physical harm, or PTSD, for the victim of is crime (who is ALSO a person, one you apparently don't think if at all) so that he can't go make that choice again tomorrow, and make another victim.

But that idea terrified you because you worry you harbor racism and you combat it by pretending the people you are "helping" have absolutely no agency at all.

You're making some pretty big leaps about my philosophy there, especially when I explicitly posted that i believe people who commit crimes should be arrested and prosecuted. Enjoy the rest of your day

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t he under an investigation already himself too?

Can’t wait for People v. Allen. It would be a cosmic justice if he got prosecuted in a city where murderers and rapists don’t largely thanks to him

The most hated man in DC. And that’s inclusive of Trump

I am ready for some lawsuits against these fools. All of them. The judges, the prosecutors, the Mayor, the Council. Aren't there any smart lawyers on this board who are tired of what they've done to DC?

Hope you have 5 years to wait because everything but the mayor and council is going to grind to a halt from the DC budget shortfall. So go ahead and make Charles angry, he's going to raise y'alls taxes real soon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d like to see him go, but someone better needs to run …

Yeah they don’t. Chuck has got to go no matter what.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t he under an investigation already himself too?

Can’t wait for People v. Allen. It would be a cosmic justice if he got prosecuted in a city where murderers and rapists don’t largely thanks to him

The most hated man in DC. And that’s inclusive of Trump

He's really not though. There's a nice little chunk of you fools that are loud and in an echo chamber, but the rest of the city doesn't take the bait

He really is though, isn’t he? And soon he’ll be gone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t he under an investigation already himself too?

Can’t wait for People v. Allen. It would be a cosmic justice if he got prosecuted in a city where murderers and rapists don’t largely thanks to him

The most hated man in DC. And that’s inclusive of Trump

He's really not though. There's a nice little chunk of you fools that are loud and in an echo chamber, but the rest of the city doesn't take the bait

He really is though, isn’t he? And soon he’ll be gone

I think 400 people have donated so far. Even if we stipulate that all 400 live in DC, that is 0.05% of DC's population. On this 16 page thread, I'd guess there are about 25 unique posters, but you would have to check with Jeff.

There's a big world outside of your bubble.

[Anonymous]

Sure. Who cares? Personally, I would never live in his Ward. He has to live there. Let’s hope he doesn’t live in the bubble in his Ward either and gets a taste — a big gulp — of what he’s been dishing out while driving, while dining and while grifting. That I would enjoy far more than him getting kicked out and getting to stage a political come back. But I’m not a criminal and so recall it is.