Why have people given up on looking attractive when they go out?

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Anonymous wrote:Well most people in America are obese so that’s your answer. If they really cared about their looks, they wouldn’t be pigging out.

Here come the fat shamers with no understanding of anything about obesity.

Well, they understand how to not be obese. That’s gotta count for something.

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Anonymous wrote:As a man, I think makeup on a woman is very overrated. There is nothing worse than someone who has a face buried in makeup. Have confidence in your natural beauty.

Yet men will be the first to pick apart a woman's looks from her under eye shadows to her zits etc.

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Anonymous wrote:As a man, I think makeup on a woman is very overrated. There is nothing worse than someone who has a face buried in makeup. Have confidence in your natural beauty.

Yet men will be the first to pick apart a woman's looks from her under eye shadows to her zits etc.

No, women do this, not men. Most men aren’t looking at your face in the first place.

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Anonymous wrote:As a man, I think makeup on a woman is very overrated. There is nothing worse than someone who has a face buried in makeup. Have confidence in your natural beauty.

Yet men will be the first to pick apart a woman's looks from her under eye shadows to her zits etc.

No, women do this, not men. Most men aren’t looking at your face in the first place.

I’m just glad that we had a man to step in and tell us that he doesn’t like makeup. That solves it! The man has spoken.

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Anonymous wrote:As a man, I think makeup on a woman is very overrated. There is nothing worse than someone who has a face buried in makeup. Have confidence in your natural beauty.

Yet men will be the first to pick apart a woman's looks from her under eye shadows to her zits etc.

No, women do this, not men. Most men aren’t looking at your face in the first place.

I’m just glad that we had a man to step in and tell us that he doesn’t like makeup. That solves it! The man has spoken.

I'll never forget the day about tens years ago when one of my male coworkers came to me, worried that our boss had the flu "because she looked awful, we should get her to go home."
Had to explain to him that she had a hard morning with two young kids and she didn't have time to put on her daily makeup.

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I wonder how many of the IDGF posters here are the same ones who panic post on the fashion forum because they have an upcoming trip to Paris.

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Anonymous wrote:As a man, I think makeup on a woman is very overrated. There is nothing worse than someone who has a face buried in makeup. Have confidence in your natural beauty.

Yet men will be the first to pick apart a woman's looks from her under eye shadows to her zits etc.

No, women do this, not men. Most men aren’t looking at your face in the first place.

I’m just glad that we had a man to step in and tell us that he doesn’t like makeup. That solves it! The man has spoken.

Haha seriously

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Because I'm not a preener.

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Anonymous wrote:No excuses ladies. You don’t take care of yourselves anymore

You use "taking care of yourself" as code for "striving to appear physically attractive to others". How misogynistic of you.

I'm in excellent health and have excellent hygiene. I usually wear athletic clothing with my hair in a pony tail and no make up. Why should I care whether randos think I'm attractive or not?

I started my professional career, like a PP, being required to wear pantyhose and makeup. I'm SO glad those days are over!

It’s not about others thinking I’m attractive. It’s about respect for myself and respect for those around me. When I’m dressed up and put together, I work harder and do better in everything. You can tell my mental state by the state of my nails.

Besides, it takes just as much time to put on sweatpants as it does to put on a nice outfit. Or do your dressy clothes have some sort of weird contraptions?

I also started off my career in pantyhose and makeup and I wish business formal attire were still a thing. It made most people more present, focused, hardworking and more respectful.

We are degenerating as a society, unfortunately.

Yes. Society is dying for its lack of manicures.

You’re an idiot.

No, you misunderstood the point. Have you ever heard the saying by Benjamin Franklin “if you want something done ask a busy person?” If you’re put together, you have time to do the little things like manicures. If you’re a disorganized mess, you don’t. If you can’t even manage to put on a pair of slacks instead of sweatpants or leggings, what else can’t you do?

SLACKS?

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OP you are right. I’ve gained some weight since Covid and definitely became a sloppy dresser of convenience when I run errands. Yoga pants, leggings and tshirts. Hair looks whatever.

No lie, bc of this post I decided to kick it up a notch when I ran my errands today. I still didn’t do much, but I at least brushed my hair and threw it in a French braid, and put on some jeans. Now this outfit was far less comfortable than my normal sloppy outfit, but this post has inspired me to take a dedicated shopping trip to find cute but comfortable appropriate outfits for when I run errands.

You’ve won a convert.

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Can someone post some examples of cute, comfortable, appropriate outfits for running errands. I wear a size 14.

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Anonymous wrote:In my hometown in the 1970s women would wear curlers in their hair to the grocery store, and sometimes slippers. Because they were getting ready to go out to dinner or host a party. Not everyone dressed up for everything then either.

Yes, and in the past women used to get their hair done once a week (there were apocryphal stories about women having bugs in their beehives--I would think because maybe they looked dirty?). Men used pomade instead of washing their hair. Women wore shapeless housedresses and aprons or earlier versions of leggings--capri pants and not everyone looked like Mary Tyler Moore in them. People have always been slobby, tacky and fat, it's just a different version of it now.

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Anonymous wrote:Op I think people had pride in themselves then.

I was just out of town with a friend. She went to medical appointments not having showere or washed her hair for three days. She put her hair in a bun, threw on oversized sweats with a hole in them, and was ready to go.

Hi Mom!

[Anonymous]

I reduced my makeup due to the toxic components.
You see me in leggings during the day because I’m heading to a gym or a park to trim some inches and to shed the poisoning fat I got from eating out.

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Anonymous wrote:You live in the DMV. This is why.

This is part of it. It's a frumpy crowd who doesn't care much about looks. Hit up Miami or LA and you'll see a higher percentage of people who at least avoided wearing stained clothing out that day.

I moved to Greenwich, CT a few years ago and it's like a different world. People dress up to go to the post office here. Or their friend's house for tea. A constant fashion show in town. It took me a while to get used to but I actually love it.

LOL. It’s easy to look good when you are wealthy and can focus all of your energy on personal care. If I could outsource all cleaning, laundry, children, errands, grocery shopping, cooking and landscaping I’d look fantastic!

My poor, uneducated immigrant mom always found a way to dress well, so there goes that excuse….

I think you've found the answer. People without privilege think they need to look and dress a certain way to be treated the way they want to be treated. Those who don't doubt their status have what I like to call slob privilege. Your poor immigrant mother probably worried that someone was going to ignore her or not treat her kindly - she dressed well to try to avoid that happening. Same with the ridiculous class anxiety you see on this board all the time - what do I wear to the country club? what will the private school moms think of me if i wear this dress or that one? how does old money dress to go to the horse stall?

The people who are comfortable in their status in life, dress how they like - that might be fancy, it might be slobby, it might depend on the day. But they aren't worried about not being allowed on the airplane if they don't have on the right outfit.

Eh, almost. I think slob privilege is a kind of white privilege. If you’re not white, you can be “comfortable in your status in life,” have high self-esteem and be doing really well for yourself but still know that to avoid being treated a certain way by people you need to look tidy. That has nothing to do with class anxiety or an internal state of mind. It just is what it is.