how likely is a shutdown?

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The answer is No. they are ZERO Republicans willing to do this. The newbies from NY should because they are toast in 2024. If they were to cross the aisle they could campaign on keeping Govt working. But most votes who support GOP are anti- government so that won’t work.

Lie down with dogs…wake up with fleas.

Of course there are no Republicans wiling to cross any lines. They’re an authoritarian party and they march as one. No dissension is allowed. No one thinks for themselves, no one thinks of the country. Party uber alles.

McCarthy is terrible at this. The only way this ends is a repeat of the debt ceiling coalition. There is zero chance that the Freedom Caucus will vote for any final package that the Senate would pass and Biden would sign so it is a waste of time begging them to vote for a dumbass partisan fantasy House bill.

Pelosi made this stuff look easy. She cut deals with ultra-partisans McConnell and the Trump White House in 2019 and 2020, and delivered the Democratic votes to pass them, which was many times harder than negotiating with Biden and Senate Democrats who are eager to compromise. The problem always is that a Republican Speaker can’t deliver the votes for a deal. Boehner couldn’t. Ryan couldn’t. McCarthy can’t. He has to negotiate with Democrats.

You're correct that Pelosi was good at this but the current situation isn't McCarthy's fault. He's no more terrible than Boehner or Ryan. The Speaker isn't the problem. The party is the problem.

It certainly is McCarthy's fault. He could just negotiate a deal with Democrats and the rump of his party that retains some level of sanity, and then pass it with overwhelming support. He won't do that because he's afraid that will lead to a motion to vacate. In other words, he's a coward.

And that would be the end of his speakership. And there's no one else who could be speaker. So it would be the end of our government.

Think this through.

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That's an absurd statement. There's plenty of members who could step up. End of our government? Get real.

TECHNICALLY, the Speaker of the House doesn't even have to be a member of Congress. It can be a private citizen also. No, really? Yeah, really.

There is no one who could get and keep the support of every House Republican because some want to govern while others want to burn it all down. They are not compatible.

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100% thanks to the MAGAs that have been voted in.

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The answer is No. they are ZERO Republicans willing to do this. The newbies from NY should because they are toast in 2024. If they were to cross the aisle they could campaign on keeping Govt working. But most votes who support GOP are anti- government so that won’t work.

Lie down with dogs…wake up with fleas.

Of course there are no Republicans wiling to cross any lines. They’re an authoritarian party and they march as one. No dissension is allowed. No one thinks for themselves, no one thinks of the country. Party uber alles.

McCarthy is terrible at this. The only way this ends is a repeat of the debt ceiling coalition. There is zero chance that the Freedom Caucus will vote for any final package that the Senate would pass and Biden would sign so it is a waste of time begging them to vote for a dumbass partisan fantasy House bill.

Pelosi made this stuff look easy. She cut deals with ultra-partisans McConnell and the Trump White House in 2019 and 2020, and delivered the Democratic votes to pass them, which was many times harder than negotiating with Biden and Senate Democrats who are eager to compromise. The problem always is that a Republican Speaker can’t deliver the votes for a deal. Boehner couldn’t. Ryan couldn’t. McCarthy can’t. He has to negotiate with Democrats.

You're correct that Pelosi was good at this but the current situation isn't McCarthy's fault. He's no more terrible than Boehner or Ryan. The Speaker isn't the problem. The party is the problem.

It certainly is McCarthy's fault. He could just negotiate a deal with Democrats and the rump of his party that retains some level of sanity, and then pass it with overwhelming support. He won't do that because he's afraid that will lead to a motion to vacate. In other words, he's a coward.

And that would be the end of his speakership. And there's no one else who could be speaker. So it would be the end of our government.

Think this through.

?

That's an absurd statement. There's plenty of members who could step up. End of our government? Get real.

TECHNICALLY, the Speaker of the House doesn't even have to be a member of Congress. It can be a private citizen also. No, really? Yeah, really.

NP. Who?! Steve Scaliese has cancer. Who could get support and the votes needed? More importantly what Republican would want the job of leadings divided party, where one side is insane?

Who knows who would get support. You have a couple of hundred republicans in the House.

But don't tell us that's it's the "end of our government"! Total nonsense.

What it really translates into is a PP leftist poster saying it's end of days because they aren't getting their way. Enough of the nonsense.

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The answer is No. they are ZERO Republicans willing to do this. The newbies from NY should because they are toast in 2024. If they were to cross the aisle they could campaign on keeping Govt working. But most votes who support GOP are anti- government so that won’t work.

Lie down with dogs…wake up with fleas.

Of course there are no Republicans wiling to cross any lines. They’re an authoritarian party and they march as one. No dissension is allowed. No one thinks for themselves, no one thinks of the country. Party uber alles.

McCarthy is terrible at this. The only way this ends is a repeat of the debt ceiling coalition. There is zero chance that the Freedom Caucus will vote for any final package that the Senate would pass and Biden would sign so it is a waste of time begging them to vote for a dumbass partisan fantasy House bill.

Pelosi made this stuff look easy. She cut deals with ultra-partisans McConnell and the Trump White House in 2019 and 2020, and delivered the Democratic votes to pass them, which was many times harder than negotiating with Biden and Senate Democrats who are eager to compromise. The problem always is that a Republican Speaker can’t deliver the votes for a deal. Boehner couldn’t. Ryan couldn’t. McCarthy can’t. He has to negotiate with Democrats.

You're correct that Pelosi was good at this but the current situation isn't McCarthy's fault. He's no more terrible than Boehner or Ryan. The Speaker isn't the problem. The party is the problem.

It certainly is McCarthy's fault. He could just negotiate a deal with Democrats and the rump of his party that retains some level of sanity, and then pass it with overwhelming support. He won't do that because he's afraid that will lead to a motion to vacate. In other words, he's a coward.

And that would be the end of his speakership. And there's no one else who could be speaker. So it would be the end of our government.

Think this through.

?

That's an absurd statement. There's plenty of members who could step up. End of our government? Get real.

TECHNICALLY, the Speaker of the House doesn't even have to be a member of Congress. It can be a private citizen also. No, really? Yeah, really.

NP. Who?! Steve Scaliese has cancer. Who could get support and the votes needed? More importantly what Republican would want the job of leadings divided party, where one side is insane?

Who knows who would get support. You have a couple of hundred republicans in the House.

But don't tell us that's it's the "end of our government"! Total nonsense.

What it really translates into is a PP leftist poster saying it's end of days because they aren't getting their way. Enough of the nonsense.

Again, didn’t pay attention in January.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a fed and ok with closing the government. Under no circumstances should the GOP get what they want:

Cutting housing subsidies for the poor by 33 percent as soaring rents drive a national affordability crisis. Forcing more than 1 million women and children onto the waitlist of a nutritional assistance program for poor mothers with young children. Reducing federal spending on home heating assistance for low-income families by more than 70 percent with energy prices high heading into the winter months.

The budget cuts should not come off the backs of the poor. Raise taxes on the rich. They have plenty of money and have had numerous tax cuts over the years. The working poor in America are struggling under inflation and out of control housing costs. We can’t have all government money only going towards old people!

You bet they should raise taxes on the poor. I'm tired of half the country not paying any income taxes or even getting a refund after paying nothing.

Working poor? Everytime I turn around, you're looking to subsidize big business at the tax payer expense by creating subsidies to "help the poor" which ends up in the pockets of the rich.

Your policies of endless printing and spending devalued the dollar and caused inflation in the first place. You were warned about this for decades and now here we are.

You can't handle your housing costs? MOVE!

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Today, 2:30

Lisa DesJardins, PBS: “What are the chances of a government shutdown?”
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy: “I don't know. You'd have to ask President Biden.”

Today, 4:30

"House Republicans do not need President Biden to mediate a resolution among House Republicans."
- White House official to Semafor on McCarthy today asking for meeting with Biden to avert a government shutdown

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Anonymous wrote:Today, 2:30

Lisa DesJardins, PBS: “What are the chances of a government shutdown?”
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy: “I don't know. You'd have to ask President Biden.”

Today, 4:30

"House Republicans do not need President Biden to mediate a resolution among House Republicans."
- White House official to Semafor on McCarthy today asking for meeting with Biden to avert a government shutdown

McCarthy is a buffoon.

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Bring on the sarcastic slow clap

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a fed and ok with closing the government. Under no circumstances should the GOP get what they want:

Cutting housing subsidies for the poor by 33 percent as soaring rents drive a national affordability crisis. Forcing more than 1 million women and children onto the waitlist of a nutritional assistance program for poor mothers with young children. Reducing federal spending on home heating assistance for low-income families by more than 70 percent with energy prices high heading into the winter months.

The budget cuts should not come off the backs of the poor. Raise taxes on the rich. They have plenty of money and have had numerous tax cuts over the years. The working poor in America are struggling under inflation and out of control housing costs. We can’t have all government money only going towards old people!

You bet they should raise taxes on the poor. I'm tired of half the country not paying any income taxes or even getting a refund after paying nothing.

Working poor? Everytime I turn around, you're looking to subsidize big business at the tax payer expense by creating subsidies to "help the poor" which ends up in the pockets of the rich.

Your policies of endless printing and spending devalued the dollar and caused inflation in the first place. You were warned about this for decades and now here we are.

You can't handle your housing costs? MOVE!

Safety nets for the poor are not the reason why your eggs cost more.

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Anonymous wrote:Today, 2:30

Lisa DesJardins, PBS: “What are the chances of a government shutdown?”
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy: “I don't know. You'd have to ask President Biden.”

Today, 4:30

"House Republicans do not need President Biden to mediate a resolution among House Republicans."
- White House official to Semafor on McCarthy today asking for meeting with Biden to avert a government shutdown

It's like a GOP clown show.

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The answer is No. they are ZERO Republicans willing to do this. The newbies from NY should because they are toast in 2024. If they were to cross the aisle they could campaign on keeping Govt working. But most votes who support GOP are anti- government so that won’t work.

Lie down with dogs…wake up with fleas.

Of course there are no Republicans wiling to cross any lines. They’re an authoritarian party and they march as one. No dissension is allowed. No one thinks for themselves, no one thinks of the country. Party uber alles.

McCarthy is terrible at this. The only way this ends is a repeat of the debt ceiling coalition. There is zero chance that the Freedom Caucus will vote for any final package that the Senate would pass and Biden would sign so it is a waste of time begging them to vote for a dumbass partisan fantasy House bill.

Pelosi made this stuff look easy. She cut deals with ultra-partisans McConnell and the Trump White House in 2019 and 2020, and delivered the Democratic votes to pass them, which was many times harder than negotiating with Biden and Senate Democrats who are eager to compromise. The problem always is that a Republican Speaker can’t deliver the votes for a deal. Boehner couldn’t. Ryan couldn’t. McCarthy can’t. He has to negotiate with Democrats.

You're correct that Pelosi was good at this but the current situation isn't McCarthy's fault. He's no more terrible than Boehner or Ryan. The Speaker isn't the problem. The party is the problem.

It certainly is McCarthy's fault. He could just negotiate a deal with Democrats and the rump of his party that retains some level of sanity, and then pass it with overwhelming support. He won't do that because he's afraid that will lead to a motion to vacate. In other words, he's a coward.

And that would be the end of his speakership. And there's no one else who could be speaker. So it would be the end of our government.

Think this through.

?

That's an absurd statement. There's plenty of members who could step up. End of our government? Get real.

TECHNICALLY, the Speaker of the House doesn't even have to be a member of Congress. It can be a private citizen also. No, really? Yeah, really.

NP. Who?! Steve Scaliese has cancer. Who could get support and the votes needed? More importantly what Republican would want the job of leadings divided party, where one side is insane?

Who knows who would get support. You have a couple of hundred republicans in the House.

But don't tell us that's it's the "end of our government"! Total nonsense.

What it really translates into is a PP leftist poster saying it's end of days because they aren't getting their way. Enough of the nonsense.

Leftist poster saying it’s end of days? What are you talking about. If the republicans don’t like mccarthy, find someone they can support. Problem is there isn’t any such person. So what one would do in a sane country is for mccarthy to cut a deal with the Dems. He gets some dem votes for the speakership, tells the crazies to go pound sand, and prevents this hostage taking by about 20 extremists. But we don’t live in a sane country so we’ll have to see Kevin try to unpretzel himself out of this idiotic position.

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The answer is No. they are ZERO Republicans willing to do this. The newbies from NY should because they are toast in 2024. If they were to cross the aisle they could campaign on keeping Govt working. But most votes who support GOP are anti- government so that won’t work.

Lie down with dogs…wake up with fleas.

Of course there are no Republicans wiling to cross any lines. They’re an authoritarian party and they march as one. No dissension is allowed. No one thinks for themselves, no one thinks of the country. Party uber alles.

McCarthy is terrible at this. The only way this ends is a repeat of the debt ceiling coalition. There is zero chance that the Freedom Caucus will vote for any final package that the Senate would pass and Biden would sign so it is a waste of time begging them to vote for a dumbass partisan fantasy House bill.

Pelosi made this stuff look easy. She cut deals with ultra-partisans McConnell and the Trump White House in 2019 and 2020, and delivered the Democratic votes to pass them, which was many times harder than negotiating with Biden and Senate Democrats who are eager to compromise. The problem always is that a Republican Speaker can’t deliver the votes for a deal. Boehner couldn’t. Ryan couldn’t. McCarthy can’t. He has to negotiate with Democrats.

You're correct that Pelosi was good at this but the current situation isn't McCarthy's fault. He's no more terrible than Boehner or Ryan. The Speaker isn't the problem. The party is the problem.

It certainly is McCarthy's fault. He could just negotiate a deal with Democrats and the rump of his party that retains some level of sanity, and then pass it with overwhelming support. He won't do that because he's afraid that will lead to a motion to vacate. In other words, he's a coward.

And that would be the end of his speakership. And there's no one else who could be speaker. So it would be the end of our government.

Think this through.

?

That's an absurd statement. There's plenty of members who could step up. End of our government? Get real.

TECHNICALLY, the Speaker of the House doesn't even have to be a member of Congress. It can be a private citizen also. No, really? Yeah, really.

NP. Who?! Steve Scaliese has cancer. Who could get support and the votes needed? More importantly what Republican would want the job of leadings divided party, where one side is insane?

Who knows who would get support. You have a couple of hundred republicans in the House.

But don't tell us that's it's the "end of our government"! Total nonsense.

What it really translates into is a PP leftist poster saying it's end of days because they aren't getting their way. Enough of the nonsense.

Leftist poster saying it’s end of days? What are you talking about. If the republicans don’t like mccarthy, find someone they can support. Problem is there isn’t any such person. So what one would do in a sane country is for mccarthy to cut a deal with the Dems. He gets some dem votes for the speakership, tells the crazies to go pound sand, and prevents this hostage taking by about 20 extremists. But we don’t live in a sane country so we’ll have to see Kevin try to unpretzel himself out of this idiotic position.

The PP is a complete moron.

This insane budget debacle has nothing to do with "leftists not getting their way." The civil war is within the ranks of the GOP. It's Republicans (GOP Freedom Caucus) who are trying to force a shutdown, because they are having a tantrum over not getting their way with the remainder of their fellow Republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:Today, 2:30

Lisa DesJardins, PBS: “What are the chances of a government shutdown?”
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy: “I don't know. You'd have to ask President Biden.”

Today, 4:30

"House Republicans do not need President Biden to mediate a resolution among House Republicans."
- White House official to Semafor on McCarthy today asking for meeting with Biden to avert a government shutdown

McCarthy is a buffoon.

No, McCarthy did one thing that was very clever. I heard he directly tied together Ukraine funding to Border policy (one thing the Dems want and one thing the Right wants).

This will call-out and separate who in his party he can work, with versus the ones most likely under Russian influence who are just trying to undermine the government (ex. my guess is folks like Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-GA, Rep. Michael Cloud, R-TX, Rep. Anna Paulina Luna, R-FL, Sen. Josh Hawley, R-MO and Abigail Jackson, the communications director, Former Rep. Mayra Flores, R-TX, Former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-HI, etc.).

I believe Russia will do anything and everything to undermine the US and win in Ukraine, so is leaning on anyone it can influence right now. I think it's the perfect time to lure out the problem children with the sorting hat.

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So is this likely to make any difference?