how likely is a shutdown?

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The answer is No. they are ZERO Republicans willing to do this. The newbies from NY should because they are toast in 2024. If they were to cross the aisle they could campaign on keeping Govt working. But most votes who support GOP are anti- government so that won’t work.

Lie down with dogs…wake up with fleas.

Of course there are no Republicans wiling to cross any lines. They’re an authoritarian party and they march as one. No dissension is allowed. No one thinks for themselves, no one thinks of the country. Party uber alles.

McCarthy is terrible at this. The only way this ends is a repeat of the debt ceiling coalition. There is zero chance that the Freedom Caucus will vote for any final package that the Senate would pass and Biden would sign so it is a waste of time begging them to vote for a dumbass partisan fantasy House bill.

Pelosi made this stuff look easy. She cut deals with ultra-partisans McConnell and the Trump White House in 2019 and 2020, and delivered the Democratic votes to pass them, which was many times harder than negotiating with Biden and Senate Democrats who are eager to compromise. The problem always is that a Republican Speaker can’t deliver the votes for a deal. Boehner couldn’t. Ryan couldn’t. McCarthy can’t. He has to negotiate with Democrats.

You're correct that Pelosi was good at this but the current situation isn't McCarthy's fault. He's no more terrible than Boehner or Ryan. The Speaker isn't the problem. The party is the problem.

It certainly is McCarthy's fault. He could just negotiate a deal with Democrats and the rump of his party that retains some level of sanity, and then pass it with overwhelming support. He won't do that because he's afraid that will lead to a motion to vacate. In other words, he's a coward.

And that would be the end of his speakership. And there's no one else who could be speaker. So it would be the end of our government.

Think this through.

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That's an absurd statement. There's plenty of members who could step up. End of our government? Get real.

TECHNICALLY, the Speaker of the House doesn't even have to be a member of Congress. It can be a private citizen also. No, really? Yeah, really.

NP. Who?! Steve Scaliese has cancer. Who could get support and the votes needed? More importantly what Republican would want the job of leadings divided party, where one side is insane?

Who knows who would get support. You have a couple of hundred republicans in the House.

But don't tell us that's it's the "end of our government"! Total nonsense.

What it really translates into is a PP leftist poster saying it's end of days because they aren't getting their way. Enough of the nonsense.

The GOP is cutting the budget drastically for aid to families. Sorry, the GOP are the ones throwing the temper tantrum for not cutting money to WIC, housing assistance, and daycare assistance. Pro-family/pro-women NOT a bit. A bunch of greedy, mean men!

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a fed and ok with closing the government. Under no circumstances should the GOP get what they want:

Cutting housing subsidies for the poor by 33 percent as soaring rents drive a national affordability crisis. Forcing more than 1 million women and children onto the waitlist of a nutritional assistance program for poor mothers with young children. Reducing federal spending on home heating assistance for low-income families by more than 70 percent with energy prices high heading into the winter months.

The budget cuts should not come off the backs of the poor. Raise taxes on the rich. They have plenty of money and have had numerous tax cuts over the years. The working poor in America are struggling under inflation and out of control housing costs. We can’t have all government money only going towards old people!

You bet they should raise taxes on the poor. I'm tired of half the country not paying any income taxes or even getting a refund after paying nothing.

Working poor? Everytime I turn around, you're looking to subsidize big business at the tax payer expense by creating subsidies to "help the poor" which ends up in the pockets of the rich.

Your policies of endless printing and spending devalued the dollar and caused inflation in the first place. You were warned about this for decades and now here we are.

You can't handle your housing costs? MOVE!

Thank you for posting Scrooge McDuck! The GOP want to bring back Hoovervilles!!

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So is this likely to make any difference?

He's not going to bring it to the floor because he knows it'll pass. So, the government is going to have to shut down for a couple weeks before the pressure ramps up so much that he'll be forced to bring it to the floor. This is all so predictable.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a fed and ok with closing the government. Under no circumstances should the GOP get what they want:

Cutting housing subsidies for the poor by 33 percent as soaring rents drive a national affordability crisis. Forcing more than 1 million women and children onto the waitlist of a nutritional assistance program for poor mothers with young children. Reducing federal spending on home heating assistance for low-income families by more than 70 percent with energy prices high heading into the winter months.

The budget cuts should not come off the backs of the poor. Raise taxes on the rich. They have plenty of money and have had numerous tax cuts over the years. The working poor in America are struggling under inflation and out of control housing costs. We can’t have all government money only going towards old people!

You bet they should raise taxes on the poor. I'm tired of half the country not paying any income taxes or even getting a refund after paying nothing.

Working poor? Everytime I turn around, you're looking to subsidize big business at the tax payer expense by creating subsidies to "help the poor" which ends up in the pockets of the rich.

Your policies of endless printing and spending devalued the dollar and caused inflation in the first place. You were warned about this for decades and now here we are.

You can't handle your housing costs? MOVE!

I am more tired of alleged billionaires not paying taxes. how many years did Trump avoid paying any taxes? and this after screwing his investors who lost $$$$$

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a fed and ok with closing the government. Under no circumstances should the GOP get what they want:

Cutting housing subsidies for the poor by 33 percent as soaring rents drive a national affordability crisis. Forcing more than 1 million women and children onto the waitlist of a nutritional assistance program for poor mothers with young children. Reducing federal spending on home heating assistance for low-income families by more than 70 percent with energy prices high heading into the winter months.

The budget cuts should not come off the backs of the poor. Raise taxes on the rich. They have plenty of money and have had numerous tax cuts over the years. The working poor in America are struggling under inflation and out of control housing costs. We can’t have all government money only going towards old people!

You bet they should raise taxes on the poor. I'm tired of half the country not paying any income taxes or even getting a refund after paying nothing.

Working poor? Everytime I turn around, you're looking to subsidize big business at the tax payer expense by creating subsidies to "help the poor" which ends up in the pockets of the rich.

Your policies of endless printing and spending devalued the dollar and caused inflation in the first place. You were warned about this for decades and now here we are.

You can't handle your housing costs? MOVE!

I am more tired of alleged billionaires not paying taxes. how many years did Trump avoid paying any taxes? and this after screwing his investors who lost $$$$$

Some of the people he screwed gained $$$$$...well, two of them did.

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Its as if he is working for a foreign country that wants to see our country fail.

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Out of control spending and printing must stop.
How simple is that?

just uncut the Trump tax cuts and we will be fine

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Out of control spending and printing must stop.
How simple is that?

just uncut the Trump tax cuts and we will be fine

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Instead this is the GOP’s “pro life” take:

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a fed and ok with closing the government. Under no circumstances should the GOP get what they want:

Cutting housing subsidies for the poor by 33 percent as soaring rents drive a national affordability crisis. Forcing more than 1 million women and children onto the waitlist of a nutritional assistance program for poor mothers with young children. Reducing federal spending on home heating assistance for low-income families by more than 70 percent with energy prices high heading into the winter months.

The budget cuts should not come off the backs of the poor. Raise taxes on the rich. They have plenty of money and have had numerous tax cuts over the years. The working poor in America are struggling under inflation and out of control housing costs. We can’t have all government money only going towards old people!

You bet they should raise taxes on the poor. I'm tired of half the country not paying any income taxes or even getting a refund after paying nothing.

Working poor? Everytime I turn around, you're looking to subsidize big business at the tax payer expense by creating subsidies to "help the poor" which ends up in the pockets of the rich.

Your policies of endless printing and spending devalued the dollar and caused inflation in the first place. You were warned about this for decades and now here we are.

You can't handle your housing costs? MOVE!

You know you sound like an idiot, right? Like you think you’ve got some amazing take that no one’s considered. We’ve considered it. We also know how much money billionaires have, and this isn’t even touching what the businesses have.

Here, take a look and find out why you sound stupid to everyone else. It’s just a visual representation of wealth.:

https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a fed and ok with closing the government. Under no circumstances should the GOP get what they want:

Cutting housing subsidies for the poor by 33 percent as soaring rents drive a national affordability crisis. Forcing more than 1 million women and children onto the waitlist of a nutritional assistance program for poor mothers with young children. Reducing federal spending on home heating assistance for low-income families by more than 70 percent with energy prices high heading into the winter months.

The budget cuts should not come off the backs of the poor. Raise taxes on the rich. They have plenty of money and have had numerous tax cuts over the years. The working poor in America are struggling under inflation and out of control housing costs. We can’t have all government money only going towards old people!

You bet they should raise taxes on the poor. I'm tired of half the country not paying any income taxes or even getting a refund after paying nothing.

Working poor? Everytime I turn around, you're looking to subsidize big business at the tax payer expense by creating subsidies to "help the poor" which ends up in the pockets of the rich.

Your policies of endless printing and spending devalued the dollar and caused inflation in the first place. You were warned about this for decades and now here we are.

You can't handle your housing costs? MOVE!

Then what we need is a lower limit below which no taxpayer can drop below unless you are below the poverty level. Let's make it 10%. Since many people are paying between 22-38%, 10% should be an easy floor.

Now watch all the rich people, like President Trump, who have built a huge infrastructure of tax shelters and writeoffs designed specifically to avoid any tax liability scream bloody murder. The rich will even illegally lobby and bribe politicians to write more tax write-offs into tax law so that the privileged few can avoid paying taxes. Did you see how Trump, a self-proclaimed billionaire, only paid $750 in federal taxes in 2017? The crooked top 0.1% are the ones that are bilking the government. Typical case where the top should be paying the most into the government (not percentage wise), but in reality are paying virtually nothing.

If you created a tax floor where you could not adjust your tax liability below, then we would not have the tax problem we do. Do you ever wonder why Republicans always try to cut funding to the IRS? They know that if the tax auditing and tax collection divisions are stripped, they will be able to continue to fraudulantly avoid paying taxes. They will tie the collections division up in so much legal red tape with high powered tax lawyers that they'll never have to pay their fair share, or any share, for that matter. Biden authorized increased funding to the IRS so that they could rehire staff in the stripped down tax collection division and start to collect the billions of dollars of back taxes and penalties that are owed, but ignored. And the wealthy Republicans who have been cheating on their taxes for decades hate this idea.

That's where we need to focus. First on collecting all the back taxes and penalties, second on correctly auditing so that these scofflaws cannot continue avoiding their tax liabilities and finally revising and simplifying the tax code and eliminating some of these extremely unfair codified tax exemptions. The multi-millionaires and billionaires need to start paying their fair share. They've been bellyaching for decades about how they pay too much, when they've been barely paying anything at all.

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So is this likely to make any difference?

He's not going to bring it to the floor because he knows it'll pass. So, the government is going to have to shut down for a couple weeks before the pressure ramps up so much that he'll be forced to bring it to the floor. This is all so predictable.

+1 Meanwhile…

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a fed and ok with closing the government. Under no circumstances should the GOP get what they want:

Cutting housing subsidies for the poor by 33 percent as soaring rents drive a national affordability crisis. Forcing more than 1 million women and children onto the waitlist of a nutritional assistance program for poor mothers with young children. Reducing federal spending on home heating assistance for low-income families by more than 70 percent with energy prices high heading into the winter months.

The budget cuts should not come off the backs of the poor. Raise taxes on the rich. They have plenty of money and have had numerous tax cuts over the years. The working poor in America are struggling under inflation and out of control housing costs. We can’t have all government money only going towards old people!

You bet they should raise taxes on the poor. I'm tired of half the country not paying any income taxes or even getting a refund after paying nothing.

Working poor? Everytime I turn around, you're looking to subsidize big business at the tax payer expense by creating subsidies to "help the poor" which ends up in the pockets of the rich.

Your policies of endless printing and spending devalued the dollar and caused inflation in the first place. You were warned about this for decades and now here we are.

You can't handle your housing costs? MOVE!

I am more tired of alleged billionaires not paying taxes. how many years did Trump avoid paying any taxes? and this after screwing his investors who lost $$$$$

This! And why "regular" Americans think poor people are the reasons for all of their complaints is just so frustrating. Poor people are not the reason you are struggling. But somehow the rich have convinced them they are.

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Its as if he is working for a foreign country that wants to see our country fail.

He is so bad at this. He doesn’t have a feasible package so he is surrendering all the leverage he has with the Senate and the White House, so the Senate can just write its own moderate plan that gets at least 20 Senate Republican votes and put pressure on the House to vote on it. If House Republicans bring a draconian bill to the floor, Democrats can offer the Senate package as the motion to recommit, forcing every Republican to vote on the record. The Senate position always wins these games. That’s why Pelosi never did stupid shit like this.

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They can’t do anything without gumming it up with stupid unpopular irrelevant crap.

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Murray Releases Bipartisan Continuing Resolution

https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/news/majority/murray-releases-bipartisan-continuing-resolution

U.S. Senator Patty Murray (D-WA), Chair of the Senate Appropriations Committee, released a bipartisan Continuing Resolution to extend government funding through November 17, prevent a government shutdown at the end of the month, and allow work on full-year appropriations bills to continue.

The bipartisan Continuing Resolution:

Extends government funding through November 17.

Extends funding to help communities struck by disaster and continues support for Ukraine at a pivotal moment.

Prevents critical health statutes from lapsing to ensure funding for community health centers and teaching health centers does not expire.

Extends the Federal Aviation Administration’s (FAA) authorities through the end of the calendar year.

Ensures federal wildland firefighters will not see a pay cut.

Ensures the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC) will continue to be able to serve the nearly 7 million women and children who rely on it.