Where are all the Ivy admits coming from you wonder? Dalton NYC 2023 Matriculations

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.instagram.com/daltonseniors23/

Clearly Dalton is an Ivy feeder. DMV privates may be having a tough year with matriculations to top 20 schools/Ivies, but NYC prep schools seem to be doing just fine and claiming a good percentage of the spots. I thought the Ivies and top 20s were trying to diversify were their admits come from? Instead it looks like NYC prep schools get the most. It's an embarrassment of riches, when looking at this list. No school in the DMV this year can compare. 🙄


What are you talking about?!?

Almost half of Sidwell’s 2023 class has posted, and at least 13 students are going to Ivies + MIT. Over half of the students that posted are heading to top 20 universities and SLACs. A majority of the remaining students are going to top 40/50 universities. I can’t speak for other privates, but Sidwell is doing great! Especially since I know 4 Sidwell seniors who are heading to Ivies/top 10 universities that haven’t posted (and they may not).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.instagram.com/daltonseniors23/

Clearly Dalton is an Ivy feeder. DMV privates may be having a tough year with matriculations to top 20 schools/Ivies, but NYC prep schools seem to be doing just fine and claiming a good percentage of the spots. I thought the Ivies and top 20s were trying to diversify were their admits come from? Instead it looks like NYC prep schools get the most. It's an embarrassment of riches, when looking at this list. No school in the DMV this year can compare. 🙄


What are you talking about?!?

Almost half of Sidwell’s 2023 class has posted, and at least 13 students are going to Ivies + MIT. Over half of the students that posted are heading to top 20 universities and SLACs. A majority of the remaining students are going to top 40/50 universities. I can’t speak for other privates, but Sidwell is doing great! Especially since I know 4 Sidwell seniors who are heading to Ivies/top 10 universities that haven’t posted (and they may not).


Don't be so impressed by where the students from these privates go, whether Dalton, Sidwell or any other TT. The majority get in because of money, connections, legacy or some combination of the three. True meritocracy does not exist in higher ed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.instagram.com/daltonseniors23/

Clearly Dalton is an Ivy feeder. DMV privates may be having a tough year with matriculations to top 20 schools/Ivies, but NYC prep schools seem to be doing just fine and claiming a good percentage of the spots. I thought the Ivies and top 20s were trying to diversify were their admits come from? Instead it looks like NYC prep schools get the most. It's an embarrassment of riches, when looking at this list. No school in the DMV this year can compare. 🙄


What are you talking about?!?

Almost half of Sidwell’s 2023 class has posted, and at least 13 students are going to Ivies + MIT. Over half of the students that posted are heading to top 20 universities and SLACs. A majority of the remaining students are going to top .40/50 universities. I can’t speak for other privates, but Sidwell is doing great! Especially since I know 4 Sidwell seniors who are heading to Ivies/top 10 universities that haven’t posted (and they may not).



DP but Sidwell’s results look stronger so far than GDS. I don’t think either are bad, it’s not the 1990s anymore
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Interestingly I’ve noticed that Harvard-Westlake in LA doesn’t have students who make an Instagram page like this (although it has VERY detailed College matriculation data). Not finding any on Marlborough in LA either.


HW kids don't have an instagram page like that -- kinda tacky, when you think about it.
But I have heard rumors of seven to Stanford this year. HW typically publishes a full list of college matriculation in June in the newspaper.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interestingly I’ve noticed that Harvard-Westlake in LA doesn’t have students who make an Instagram page like this (although it has VERY detailed College matriculation data). Not finding any on Marlborough in LA either.


HW kids don't have an instagram page like that -- kinda tacky, when you think about it.
But I have heard rumors of seven to Stanford this year. HW typically publishes a full list of college matriculation in June in the newspaper.


Yeah I feel similarly. Would be curious to know if top boarding schools like Exeter & Andover students do pages like this; my hunch is no.
Anonymous
Lots of celeb kids in the HS class of 2024; children of: Trump, Jen Garner, Tina Fey, Katie Holmes, Jolie-Pitt and many others I’m sure
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.instagram.com/daltonseniors23/

Clearly Dalton is an Ivy feeder. DMV privates may be having a tough year with matriculations to top 20 schools/Ivies, but NYC prep schools seem to be doing just fine and claiming a good percentage of the spots. I thought the Ivies and top 20s were trying to diversify were their admits come from? Instead it looks like NYC prep schools get the most. It's an embarrassment of riches, when looking at this list. No school in the DMV this year can compare. 🙄


What are you talking about?!?

Almost half of Sidwell’s 2023 class has posted, and at least 13 students are going to Ivies + MIT. Over half of the students that posted are heading to top 20 universities and SLACs. A majority of the remaining students are going to top 40/50 universities. I can’t speak for other privates, but Sidwell is doing great! Especially since I know 4 Sidwell seniors who are heading to Ivies/top 10 universities that haven’t posted (and they may not).


You dumb
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I looked through McLean High admits and was very impressed and also very happy for the students. They had several to Harvard, several to Yale, and to all the other Ivys plus top schools, and a bunch to VA state school as well. Pretty impressive for public school kids without the resources and directed attention that private school kids receive.

For elite private schools, I would expect that there are a significant number of Ivy admits.


You are talking about McLean HS, where almost all the students are UMC or rich. They have tons of resources and directed attention.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I looked through McLean High admits and was very impressed and also very happy for the students. They had several to Harvard, several to Yale, and to all the other Ivys plus top schools, and a bunch to VA state school as well. Pretty impressive for public school kids without the resources and directed attention that private school kids receive.

For elite private schools, I would expect that there are a significant number of Ivy admits.


I mean good for them and all but we’re talking about McLean. I don’t think they’re hurting for resources in or out of school.


I get that the typical McLean kid will have resources, but it takes a lot of resourcefulness to seek out the opportunities yourself. They're not handed to you or so obvious for the taking. We moved our kids from private to public and can see the difference. Both have pros and cons.


Yes, those wealthy McLean kids are really boot-strap-pulling go-getters. LOL.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I looked through McLean High admits and was very impressed and also very happy for the students. They had several to Harvard, several to Yale, and to all the other Ivys plus top schools, and a bunch to VA state school as well. Pretty impressive for public school kids without the resources and directed attention that private school kids receive.

For elite private schools, I would expect that there are a significant number of Ivy admits.


I mean good for them and all but we’re talking about McLean. I don’t think they’re hurting for resources in or out of school.


I get that the typical McLean kid will have resources, but it takes a lot of resourcefulness to seek out the opportunities yourself. They're not handed to you or so obvious for the taking. We moved our kids from private to public and can see the difference. Both have pros and cons.


Yes, those wealthy McLean kids are really boot-strap-pulling go-getters. LOL.


Compared to kids at Dalton whose parents have donated buildings, are on the boards of Ivies, affiliated with top nonprofits etc yes they are
Anonymous
I’m kind of surprised such a public page exists with kids first & last names. I would be curious to know what their parents thought because a lot of VIP families would not want the world knowing where their kid goes to high school. Especially since the school year isn’t over yet, and if you know where one kid goes to school it’s easy to figure out if younger siblings go there too. Perhaps Dalton isn’t this way, but I would not be surprised if the schools with a high concentration of recognizable celeb kids opt out of such pages.
Anonymous
For example I wouldn’t be surprised if there isn’t a page for St. Andrews School or Tatnall in Delaware.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:One of the Dalton students who has posted on there has a parent on the board of the endowment of a HYP school.


This is common and given little attention.

VERY VERY VERY few people look at the boards of trustees at these elite universities.

99% of the time the people on the board of trustees' children are coincidentally accepted and attend the university.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’m kind of surprised such a public page exists with kids first & last names. I would be curious to know what their parents thought because a lot of VIP families would not want the world knowing where their kid goes to high school. Especially since the school year isn’t over yet, and if you know where one kid goes to school it’s easy to figure out if younger siblings go there too. Perhaps Dalton isn’t this way, but I would not be surprised if the schools with a high concentration of recognizable celeb kids opt out of such pages.


Nope. It's very easy to find the social media accounts of billionaires children. Many of them have a public social media accounts lol Even the private billionaires.

A simple facebook search or instagram search shows a lot of their pages that are public or semi public.

Phoebe Gates has a public tiktok and instagram.

The world has changed and we're more interconnected now more than ever.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I’m not upset with the kids or their parents, they have figured out the system and are playing the game. What I find appalling is the elite colleges who claim to want socioeconomic diversity, racial diversity, cultural diversity, regional diversity, etc etc, but then take all these kids from one school. An elite upper class private in NYC.


Wealthy, smart kids concentrate in the same place. What did you expect?


Wealthy, yes. Smart tends to be defined in a way to be synonymous with wealthy in this country, especially by the time you get to high school seniors. Are the kids at Dalton "smart" because they are inherently more intelligent than children elsewhere? Or are they smart because they are of average to above average intelligence and then have had exposure to the best possible education money can buy?

I am always fascinated by how often this argument is made among private school families (of which I am one, but I personally grew up middle class and attended mediocre public schools all the way through college). The smart kids at elite privates are not smarter than the smart kids at even just okay publics. They are more sophisticated (better traveled, more well-spoken, more comfortable with adults, etc.) but that's a different metric. And it's entirely based on exposure, not inherent qualities.

What I've learned is that wealthy people have a coded way of speaking and interacting that they ascribe to intelligence or simply superior choices but are just a form of gatekeeping (to keep people like me out, I think, but being very perceptive I've learned the code and how to fake what I need to fake so that people accept me when that's what I need, for instance in private school circles where this matters so much to people). The children at Dalton are not inherently more intelligent than the upper half of a class at a good suburban public school. In many ways the kids at the public school are more worldly because they have experienced a much wider range of people and usually have not been raised to believe they belong to a special class of humans who deserve more and better of everything. But they are less sophisticated in the ways that count to rich people, so they will be deemed less intelligent. It's all just a self-protective stance.


Well said.
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