Why is Notre Dame bot as selective as it's peers?

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article about a top ND football recruit who had to withdraw his letter of intent to attend the school after he couldn’t get past admissions. That didn’t stop Michigan, Vanderbilt or BC from offering him. The kid ended up at Michigan.

https://notredame.rivals.com/news/former-irish-signee-hillman-opens-up-about-why-he-didn-t-end-up-at-nd

“Admissions denied me for Notre Dame,” Hillman told The Athletic’s Austin Meek. “As you can see, I could have committed to any other school. Notre Dame had requirements I had to meet, and I didn’t meet it.”

“ Once, Hillman announced his release from his Letter of Intent, the offers rolled in. Michigan was joined in offering by Virginia, Boston College, Vanderbilt, UConn, Virginia Tech, LSU, Louisville and Cincinnati.”

ND sounds pretty selective to me. And seems Virginia, Vanderbilt, and BC don’t have as high standards for students. Interesting.

Agreed. Notre Dame seems to have forgotten that is was football that made that school famous and improved its academics, and not the other way around.

Probably because ND doesn’t accept ASL as a foreign language. Such an outdated, discriminatory policy.

Agreed. I think the administration is forgetting what brought fame and academic prestige to their school in the first place. Without football in its past, ND would not be anywhere near its quality today.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article about a top ND football recruit who had to withdraw his letter of intent to attend the school after he couldn’t get past admissions. That didn’t stop Michigan, Vanderbilt or BC from offering him. The kid ended up at Michigan.

https://notredame.rivals.com/news/former-irish-signee-hillman-opens-up-about-why-he-didn-t-end-up-at-nd

“Admissions denied me for Notre Dame,” Hillman told The Athletic’s Austin Meek. “As you can see, I could have committed to any other school. Notre Dame had requirements I had to meet, and I didn’t meet it.”

“ Once, Hillman announced his release from his Letter of Intent, the offers rolled in. Michigan was joined in offering by Virginia, Boston College, Vanderbilt, UConn, Virginia Tech, LSU, Louisville and Cincinnati.”

ND sounds pretty selective to me. And seems Virginia, Vanderbilt, and BC don’t have as high standards for students. Interesting.

Agreed. Notre Dame seems to have forgotten that is was football that made that school famous and improved its academics, and not the other way around.

Probably because ND doesn’t accept ASL as a foreign language. Such an outdated, discriminatory policy.

Agreed. I think the administration is forgetting what brought fame and academic prestige to their school in the first place. Without football in its past, ND would not be anywhere near its quality today.

Hahahaha nice try. It really doesn’t matter though does it? ND has been and will continue to be top 20 with some of the brightest students in the country. You cannot deny that lol. And at least the expectations of its athletes are among the highest in the country as well and they still compete at a high level. Just amazing!!

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article about a top ND football recruit who had to withdraw his letter of intent to attend the school after he couldn’t get past admissions. That didn’t stop Michigan, Vanderbilt or BC from offering him. The kid ended up at Michigan.

https://notredame.rivals.com/news/former-irish-signee-hillman-opens-up-about-why-he-didn-t-end-up-at-nd

“Admissions denied me for Notre Dame,” Hillman told The Athletic’s Austin Meek. “As you can see, I could have committed to any other school. Notre Dame had requirements I had to meet, and I didn’t meet it.”

“ Once, Hillman announced his release from his Letter of Intent, the offers rolled in. Michigan was joined in offering by Virginia, Boston College, Vanderbilt, UConn, Virginia Tech, LSU, Louisville and Cincinnati.”

ND sounds pretty selective to me. And seems Virginia, Vanderbilt, and BC don’t have as high standards for students. Interesting.

Probably because ND doesn’t accept ASL as a foreign language. Such an outdated, discriminatory policy.

Wrong. No such rumor about that. He was supposed to take a course his senior year and did not comply. ND and ND football will be fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article about a top ND football recruit who had to withdraw his letter of intent to attend the school after he couldn’t get past admissions. That didn’t stop Michigan, Vanderbilt or BC from offering him. The kid ended up at Michigan.

https://notredame.rivals.com/news/former-irish-signee-hillman-opens-up-about-why-he-didn-t-end-up-at-nd

“Admissions denied me for Notre Dame,” Hillman told The Athletic’s Austin Meek. “As you can see, I could have committed to any other school. Notre Dame had requirements I had to meet, and I didn’t meet it.”

“ Once, Hillman announced his release from his Letter of Intent, the offers rolled in. Michigan was joined in offering by Virginia, Boston College, Vanderbilt, UConn, Virginia Tech, LSU, Louisville and Cincinnati.”

ND sounds pretty selective to me. And seems Virginia, Vanderbilt, and BC don’t have as high standards for students. Interesting.

Probably because ND doesn’t accept ASL as a foreign language. Such an outdated, discriminatory policy.

Wrong. No such rumor about that. He was supposed to take a course his senior year and did not comply. ND and ND football will be fine.

He was missing a foreign language requirement that was met at all of the other schools. ND is outdated and doesn’t accept ASL as many other schools do.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article about a top ND football recruit who had to withdraw his letter of intent to attend the school after he couldn’t get past admissions. That didn’t stop Michigan, Vanderbilt or BC from offering him. The kid ended up at Michigan.

https://notredame.rivals.com/news/former-irish-signee-hillman-opens-up-about-why-he-didn-t-end-up-at-nd

“Admissions denied me for Notre Dame,” Hillman told The Athletic’s Austin Meek. “As you can see, I could have committed to any other school. Notre Dame had requirements I had to meet, and I didn’t meet it.”

“ Once, Hillman announced his release from his Letter of Intent, the offers rolled in. Michigan was joined in offering by Virginia, Boston College, Vanderbilt, UConn, Virginia Tech, LSU, Louisville and Cincinnati.”

ND sounds pretty selective to me. And seems Virginia, Vanderbilt, and BC don’t have as high standards for students. Interesting.

Agreed. Notre Dame seems to have forgotten that is was football that made that school famous and improved its academics, and not the other way around.

Probably because ND doesn’t accept ASL as a foreign language. Such an outdated, discriminatory policy.

Agreed. I think the administration is forgetting what brought fame and academic prestige to their school in the first place. Without football in its past, ND would not be anywhere near its quality today.

+1

Football has certainly made it a household name, particularly in Catholic communities. Even people who didn’t go to college cheer on the Fighting Irish.

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Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

?? Mine looked at Georgetown and Notre Dame, far preferred Notre Dame and is thriving there.

You’re not Catholic, obviously. “Evangelicals” is a Protestant thing.

The biggest complaint by conservative ND alums is that the school has become too liberal and is betraying Catholic values.

What do you call religious extremists who are trying to force their religious beliefs on you?

“Evangelical” sounds appropriate.

What do you call someone who clearly has no personal experience with Notre Dame and so little knowledge about the Catholic Church that it labels ND’s administration as “evangelical?”

A bigot.

I do have personal experience with ND. And extremists pushing their religious beliefs on you sounds “evangelical” to me.

Define your personal experience.

I took a class there during HS and almost attended (accepted). I also have family members who are alumni.

The school has great traditions - it’s a shame the school/state is going downhill.

No, you didn’t.

Sure did. Lived on campus too. Almost attended but got into a better school. Plus, I wasn’t crazy about the requirement to take a religious class.

Just because that fact is inconvenient for you doesn’t make it false.

So there you go. You just outed yourself. You didn’t want to take a religion course so you went somewhere else. You’re anti-religion in general and totally close-minded about it, and that colors your views on the entire subject.

Your experience as a high school student who took a summer class at ND ions ago hardly qualifies you as any kind of expert on the school’s current policies or administration. You were just a kid, and obviously a close minded one.

I never claimed to be an expert, just that I had a personal connection to the school.

The primary reason why I didn’t go was because I got into a better school.

I’m not anti-religion. My whole community/family is religious. I’m anti-extremists-pushing-beliefs-on-others.

Anyway, it’s a shame what happened to ND. And Indiana.

No one believes your story btw.

That I have a personal connection? LOL ok.

ND is no longer desirable to many applicants because it’s located in woman-hating state and it also has ties to religious extremists.

Then don’t apply. See fixed it for ya.

I applied. Got in. Didn’t go. Wouldn’t bother applying today.

- not Catholic, but grew up in Catholic community

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My kid is a non-Catholic Asian.
Doing great with very optimistic future.
Nobody cares about bigot haters.

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One thing I have noticed as the parent of three current/past college students in different schools is that ND clearly has the most friendly and welcoming environment among students and their families. It is always a lot of fun to visit my DC on campus, especially for home games.

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Anonymous wrote:They accept everyone.

Everyone who's breathing and can pay tuition.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article about a top ND football recruit who had to withdraw his letter of intent to attend the school after he couldn’t get past admissions. That didn’t stop Michigan, Vanderbilt or BC from offering him. The kid ended up at Michigan.

https://notredame.rivals.com/news/former-irish-signee-hillman-opens-up-about-why-he-didn-t-end-up-at-nd

“Admissions denied me for Notre Dame,” Hillman told The Athletic’s Austin Meek. “As you can see, I could have committed to any other school. Notre Dame had requirements I had to meet, and I didn’t meet it.”

“ Once, Hillman announced his release from his Letter of Intent, the offers rolled in. Michigan was joined in offering by Virginia, Boston College, Vanderbilt, UConn, Virginia Tech, LSU, Louisville and Cincinnati.”

ND sounds pretty selective to me. And seems Virginia, Vanderbilt, and BC don’t have as high standards for students. Interesting.

Take football put of Notre Dame’s history and it’s just a nice Catholic University near a depressed city.


Agreed. Notre Dame seems to have forgotten that is was football that made that school famous and improved its academics, and not the other way around.

Probably because ND doesn’t accept ASL as a foreign language. Such an outdated, discriminatory policy.

Agreed. I think the administration is forgetting what brought fame and academic prestige to their school in the first place. Without football in its past, ND would not be anywhere near its quality today.

Hahahaha nice try. It really doesn’t matter though does it? ND has been and will continue to be top 20 with some of the brightest students in the country. You cannot deny that lol. And at least the expectations of its athletes are among the highest in the country as well and they still compete at a high level. Just amazing!!

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article about a top ND football recruit who had to withdraw his letter of intent to attend the school after he couldn’t get past admissions. That didn’t stop Michigan, Vanderbilt or BC from offering him. The kid ended up at Michigan.

https://notredame.rivals.com/news/former-irish-signee-hillman-opens-up-about-why-he-didn-t-end-up-at-nd

“Admissions denied me for Notre Dame,” Hillman told The Athletic’s Austin Meek. “As you can see, I could have committed to any other school. Notre Dame had requirements I had to meet, and I didn’t meet it.”

“ Once, Hillman announced his release from his Letter of Intent, the offers rolled in. Michigan was joined in offering by Virginia, Boston College, Vanderbilt, UConn, Virginia Tech, LSU, Louisville and Cincinnati.”

ND sounds pretty selective to me. And seems Virginia, Vanderbilt, and BC don’t have as high standards for students. Interesting.

Take football put of Notre Dame’s history and it’s just a nice Catholic University near a depressed city.


Agreed. Notre Dame seems to have forgotten that is was football that made that school famous and improved its academics, and not the other way around.

Probably because ND doesn’t accept ASL as a foreign language. Such an outdated, discriminatory policy.

Agreed. I think the administration is forgetting what brought fame and academic prestige to their school in the first place. Without football in its past, ND would not be anywhere near its quality today.

Hahahaha nice try. It really doesn’t matter though does it? ND has been and will continue to be top 20 with some of the brightest students in the country. You cannot deny that lol. And at least the expectations of its athletes are among the highest in the country as well and they still compete at a high level. Just amazing!!

Without football, Notre Dame would be just another Catholic university located outside a depressed city.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article about a top ND football recruit who had to withdraw his letter of intent to attend the school after he couldn’t get past admissions. That didn’t stop Michigan, Vanderbilt or BC from offering him. The kid ended up at Michigan.

https://notredame.rivals.com/news/former-irish-signee-hillman-opens-up-about-why-he-didn-t-end-up-at-nd

“Admissions denied me for Notre Dame,” Hillman told The Athletic’s Austin Meek. “As you can see, I could have committed to any other school. Notre Dame had requirements I had to meet, and I didn’t meet it.”

“ Once, Hillman announced his release from his Letter of Intent, the offers rolled in. Michigan was joined in offering by Virginia, Boston College, Vanderbilt, UConn, Virginia Tech, LSU, Louisville and Cincinnati.”

ND sounds pretty selective to me. And seems Virginia, Vanderbilt, and BC don’t have as high standards for students. Interesting.

I remember this scandal from just a few year ago:

https://nypost.com/2016/11/22/notre-dame-football-punished-for-cheating-scandal/

The holier than thought attitude of the ND faithful is ridiculous. High standards only mean something when you’re not caught cheating.


Agreed. Notre Dame seems to have forgotten that is was football that made that school famous and improved its academics, and not the other way around.

Probably because ND doesn’t accept ASL as a foreign language. Such an outdated, discriminatory policy.

Agreed. I think the administration is forgetting what brought fame and academic prestige to their school in the first place. Without football in its past, ND would not be anywhere near its quality today.

Hahahaha nice try. It really doesn’t matter though does it? ND has been and will continue to be top 20 with some of the brightest students in the country. You cannot deny that lol. And at least the expectations of its athletes are among the highest in the country as well and they still compete at a high level. Just amazing!!

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article about a top ND football recruit who had to withdraw his letter of intent to attend the school after he couldn’t get past admissions. That didn’t stop Michigan, Vanderbilt or BC from offering him. The kid ended up at Michigan.

https://notredame.rivals.com/news/former-irish-signee-hillman-opens-up-about-why-he-didn-t-end-up-at-nd

“Admissions denied me for Notre Dame,” Hillman told The Athletic’s Austin Meek. “As you can see, I could have committed to any other school. Notre Dame had requirements I had to meet, and I didn’t meet it.”

“ Once, Hillman announced his release from his Letter of Intent, the offers rolled in. Michigan was joined in offering by Virginia, Boston College, Vanderbilt, UConn, Virginia Tech, LSU, Louisville and Cincinnati.”

ND sounds pretty selective to me. And seems Virginia, Vanderbilt, and BC don’t have as high standards for students. Interesting.

Take football put of Notre Dame’s history and it’s just a nice Catholic University near a depressed city.


Agreed. Notre Dame seems to have forgotten that is was football that made that school famous and improved its academics, and not the other way around.

Probably because ND doesn’t accept ASL as a foreign language. Such an outdated, discriminatory policy.

Agreed. I think the administration is forgetting what brought fame and academic prestige to their school in the first place. Without football in its past, ND would not be anywhere near its quality today.

Hahahaha nice try. It really doesn’t matter though does it? ND has been and will continue to be top 20 with some of the brightest students in the country. You cannot deny that lol. And at least the expectations of its athletes are among the highest in the country as well and they still compete at a high level. Just amazing!!

Without football, Notre Dame would be just another Catholic university located outside a depressed city.

Gotta admit, the football makes for a really fun and exciting campus life. That combined with the excellent academics is part of why it is such a desirable school. So many want to be there but they can't take them all!! Blessed that my kid is there!!!

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Anonymous wrote:They accept everyone.

Everyone who's breathing and can pay tuition.

https://ndsmcobserver.com/2023/03/notre-dame-admits-class-of-2027-setting-record-low-acceptance-rate-of-11-9/

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article about a top ND football recruit who had to withdraw his letter of intent to attend the school after he couldn’t get past admissions. That didn’t stop Michigan, Vanderbilt or BC from offering him. The kid ended up at Michigan.

https://notredame.rivals.com/news/former-irish-signee-hillman-opens-up-about-why-he-didn-t-end-up-at-nd

“Admissions denied me for Notre Dame,” Hillman told The Athletic’s Austin Meek. “As you can see, I could have committed to any other school. Notre Dame had requirements I had to meet, and I didn’t meet it.”

“ Once, Hillman announced his release from his Letter of Intent, the offers rolled in. Michigan was joined in offering by Virginia, Boston College, Vanderbilt, UConn, Virginia Tech, LSU, Louisville and Cincinnati.”

ND sounds pretty selective to me. And seems Virginia, Vanderbilt, and BC don’t have as high standards for students. Interesting.

I remember this scandal from just a few year ago:

https://nypost.com/2016/11/22/notre-dame-football-punished-for-cheating-scandal/

The holier than thought attitude of the ND faithful is ridiculous. High standards only mean something when you’re not caught cheating.


Agreed. Notre Dame seems to have forgotten that is was football that made that school famous and improved its academics, and not the other way around.

Probably because ND doesn’t accept ASL as a foreign language. Such an outdated, discriminatory policy.

Agreed. I think the administration is forgetting what brought fame and academic prestige to their school in the first place. Without football in its past, ND would not be anywhere near its quality today.

Hahahaha nice try. It really doesn’t matter though does it? ND has been and will continue to be top 20 with some of the brightest students in the country. You cannot deny that lol. And at least the expectations of its athletes are among the highest in the country as well and they still compete at a high level. Just amazing!!

I remember this scandal from just a few years ago:

https://nypost.com/2016/11/22/notre-dame-football-punished-for-cheating-scandal/

High standards are great, when they’re actually enforced. ND isn’t holier than thou in that regard, although they periodically pretend to be. That is until they’re caught.