Why is Notre Dame bot as selective as it's peers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Dame has an 18% acceptance rate this year with a 22 % RD rate. That significantly higher than all the other schools in the top 25.

Where are you getting 18% from? It’s definitely lower. The acceptance rates from last year at top schools show Notre Dame is on par with many of the best colleges.

Schools significantly more selective than Notre Dame:

Harvard (3%)
Stanford (4%)
Caltech (4%)
Columbia (4%)
MIT (4%)
Duke (5%)
Yale (5%)
Brown (5%)
Princeton (6%)
UPenn (6%)
Dartmouth (6%)
Vanderbilt (6%)
Northwestern (7%)
Cornell (7%)
John’s Hopkins (7%)

Notre Dame’s Peer Group Acceptance Rates:

Rice (9%)
UCLA (9%)
Tufts (10%)
WashU (11%)
Carnegie Mellon (11%)
Berkeley (11%)
Georgetown (12%)
Notre Dame (13%)
Emory (16%)
UNC (17%)
Georgia Tech (17%)
UMich (18%)

Harvard, Stanford, Caltech, Columbia, MIT, Duke, Yale, and Brown need their own category. Once you hit 5% or lower acceptance rate, that's a different world. Accepting 1 in every 20 applicants is ridiculous, especially considering some of those schools (ahem Stanford and Duke) are admitting lots of top-level athletes who don't necessarily have the academics.

40% at Harvard are ALDC

[Anonymous]

Notre Dame has a unique culture leading to a pretty self-selecting applicant group (at least compared to other T25 schools).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ND is a great school but it isn’t that selective. There is certain profile of kid interested in the school who are not typically the top students. Yet they are students interested in working hard and intellectually curious. Typically students leaders but not the crazy smart. But again, not to knock the school. I think the education is as good as any institution.

That simply is not true according to naviance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame is more selective than any school outside of the top Ivies and Stanford. Its test scores are through the roof. It has a smaller applicant pool than many of the other top schools because it’s Catholic and many top applicants write it off for that reason alone. The applicant pool that it does attract is supremely qualified and the students that it admits enroll at a very high rate.

Notre Dame
1410-1550
Emory
1430-1530
Georgetown
1380-1530
WashU
1490-1570
Cornell
1450-1560
I could keep going,there all sky high.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dame has an 18% acceptance rate this year with a 22 % RD rate. That significantly higher than all the other schools in the top 25.

Where are you getting 18% from? It’s definitely lower. The acceptance rates from last year at top schools show Notre Dame is on par with many of the best colleges.

Schools significantly more selective than Notre Dame:

Harvard (3%)
Stanford (4%)
Caltech (4%)
Columbia (4%)
MIT (4%)
Duke (5%)
Yale (5%)
Brown (5%)
Princeton (6%)
UPenn (6%)
Dartmouth (6%)
Vanderbilt (6%)
Northwestern (7%)
Cornell (7%)
John’s Hopkins (7%)

Notre Dame’s Peer Group Acceptance Rates:

Rice (9%)
UCLA (9%)
Tufts (10%)
WashU (11%)
Carnegie Mellon (11%)
Berkeley (11%)
Georgetown (12%)
Notre Dame (13%)
Emory (16%)
UNC (17%)
Georgia Tech (17%)
UMich (18%)

Harvard, Stanford, Caltech, Columbia, MIT, Duke, Yale, and Brown need their own category. Once you hit 5% or lower acceptance rate, that's a different world. Accepting 1 in every 20 applicants is ridiculous, especially considering some of those schools (ahem Stanford and Duke) are admitting lots of top-level athletes who don't necessarily have the academics.

40% at Harvard are ALDC

What is ALDC?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dame has an 18% acceptance rate this year with a 22 % RD rate. That significantly higher than all the other schools in the top 25.

Where are you getting 18% from? It’s definitely lower. The acceptance rates from last year at top schools show Notre Dame is on par with many of the best colleges.

Schools significantly more selective than Notre Dame:

Harvard (3%)
Stanford (4%)
Caltech (4%)
Columbia (4%)
MIT (4%)
Duke (5%)
Yale (5%)
Brown (5%)
Princeton (6%)
UPenn (6%)
Dartmouth (6%)
Vanderbilt (6%)
Northwestern (7%)
Cornell (7%)
John’s Hopkins (7%)

Notre Dame’s Peer Group Acceptance Rates:

Rice (9%)
UCLA (9%)
Tufts (10%)
WashU (11%)
Carnegie Mellon (11%)
Berkeley (11%)
Georgetown (12%)
Notre Dame (13%)
Emory (16%)
UNC (17%)
Georgia Tech (17%)
UMich (18%)

Harvard, Stanford, Caltech, Columbia, MIT, Duke, Yale, and Brown need their own category. Once you hit 5% or lower acceptance rate, that's a different world. Accepting 1 in every 20 applicants is ridiculous, especially considering some of those schools (ahem Stanford and Duke) are admitting lots of top-level athletes who don't necessarily have the academics.

40% at Harvard are ALDC

What is ALDC?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/17/harvard-university-students-smart-iq

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Conservative evangelicals are ruining the schools. Georgetown seems to have found the sweet spot.

Most top colleges (Harvard, Yale, Princeton, to name a few) were founded by evangelical Christians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Too conservative

LOL, I know some Catholics who refused to let their kids go there because it was too liberal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too conservative

LOL, I know some Catholics who refused to let their kids go there because it was too liberal.

Yeah but most normal high school kids don’t want to go to a Catholic college so the pool is just smaller.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame seems more Catholic oriented than other Catholic colleges. Every person I’ve known to attend was Catholic, very smart, and well rounded. I think applicants are more more self selecting.

Maybe they used to be more selective? My relative attended this school and later attended Harvard Law School. I've always considered it a good school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dame has an 18% acceptance rate this year with a 22 % RD rate. That significantly higher than all the other schools in the top 25.

Notre Dame has no ED. ED lowers acceptance rates significantly.

No NDs yield is higher than most RD schools. Including ivys. It's the fact that it's not that popular and doesn't get a ton of applicants. Wake Forest might be more selective at this point.

This. And I hope it stays this way until at least my youngest gets to apply and hopefully be accepted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

No. ND’s average gpa is a 4.04. UVA’s median is a 4.4. Not even close to an Ivy

I wouldn’t be surprised if ND accepts more kids from parochial and private schools that don’t weight grades like public schools do, so GPAs are not as inflated.

Exactly. GPA as a measure is a joke. The only measure should be standardized tests.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too conservative

LOL, I know some Catholics who refused to let their kids go there because it was too liberal.

Yeah but most normal high school kids don’t want to go to a Catholic college so the pool is just smaller.

Define normal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They accept everyone.

Wow the trolls are perched ready to pounce on ND at a moment's notice. Interesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's location is horrid OP.

But the campus is beautiful and there is a nice little town center adjacent to it. But I agree it's not for anyone looking for a sophisticated city vibe. Chicago is less than 2 hours away.