Anyone else notice that “white ethnics” are more maga than DAR/mayflower/wasp types?
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So you believe Jews aren’t native to historic lands of Israel? 
You agree with the protestors who say to ashkenazis to “go back to Poland” or “go back to Belarus”? |
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I have WASP family members who support Trump and Stop the Steal. One of my Trump loving uncles voted for Wallace. |
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Also Chicago, St Louis, and Grosse Point. There are some old Midwestern WASP areas. |
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| I think some of you are confused on the A of WASP. Anglo-Saxon. Descendants of original British colonialism. That doesn't include Alabamans of Scotch-Irish descent, Midwesterners of German and Scandinavian descent. |
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White people are a monolith. Get with the program. |
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| Before I remembered that this thread is an older one, I thought it might be about Sam Alito. |
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| What does one call themself if they are 40% wasp, 50% protestant German, and 10% polish? Wasp-ethnic? |
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Is Trump WASP? German dad, Anglo mother |
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Because WASPs are Anglo Saxons usually from the Mayflower descendants or something . That’s why it’s correlated to the colonies /Northeast. The Bush family are WASPS who moved to Texas |
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| Kennedys were the first non WASP political family in America |
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This is an interesting take on the Anglo vs Scots divide
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/most-white-americans-wasps-why-matters-michael-robinson-byrd Imagine you are at an extended family reunion. Two main branches are present: the Scots and the English. The Scots family descend from the Celts, along with the Picts and the Vikings. The English family also descend from the Celts but have had a whole bunch of other families force their ways into the bloodline; included in that ancestry is DNA from the Romans, the Angles, Normans, Gauls, Danes, Jutes and Saxons. While the Celt line is present in both families, the Scots family can’t stand their distant cousins, the English. The Scots think the English are hypocrites and colonizing bullies who put on airs. The English think the Scots are savages to be tamed. This family dynamic is one giant tit-for-tat that has been going on for centuries, and the current problem of American political paralysis is a consequence. The term W.A.S.P. means White, Anglo-Saxon Protestant and is generally used today to describe all White, non-Catholic, non-Jewish people in America. This lens was applied to all White Americans in the 1920’s to encourage the immigrating Catholics and Jews from Europe to assimilate into a W.A.S.P. ideal. However, the term only describes the modern voting bloc descended from England who are primarily Democrats and reside in the American Northeast. The moniker completely ignores the Scots-descended voting bloc, who were never Anglo nor Saxon. These men and women are the Republican voters in the South, Midwest, the Plains, and Mountain West, whose population is more than quadruple that of the English descendants. For social movements and minority voting blocs seeking to blunt the impact of ‘states’ rights’ and achieve legislative consensus to codify laws that benefit their communities, it will require treating these White voting blocs as distinct ethnic groups. By tailoring political messaging for each group, we can get the machinery of politics moving again. The English wanted to control the Scots for a few reasons. The first is that, well, who didn’t the English want to control? The old phrase “The Sun Never Sets on the British Empire” had a very specific meaning: they were everywhere. Militarily, the English wanted to conquer Scotland for territorial integrity and peace of mind. Economically, they wanted their lands for sheep grazing, as Scotland had and still has the perfect environment for sheep but not much else. Wool used to be the main export for England and the country remains one of the top five wool exporters in the world today. Politically and perhaps most significantly, the Scottish power structure offended and scared the English monarchs. The Picts and Celts, and then the Scots, always had a clan-based, bottom-up, Confederacy-style view of democracy that has never been friendly to central authority – even that of its own kings. Once the Romans conquered England, the English and their contributing bloodlines have always had a strong central authority and top-down view of society. The Normans then fortified the monarchy and peerage system England uses today. These worldviews have clashed for two thousand years as the English rulers have repeatedly tried to bring the Scots to heel. Just because these two groups left Britain doesn’t mean their rivalry ceased. David Brooks noted this phenomenon. “Do you want to predict how a certain region is going to vote in the 2020 presidential race? Discover who settled the region in the 17th and 18th centuries. If the settlers were from the East Anglia section of Britain, then that region is probably going Democratic. If the settlers were from the north of Britain, that region is very likely to vote for Donald Trump.” His article highlights research from Gary Miller and Norman Shofield, along with work from Jonathan Rauch here. Cameron Joseph covered it in The Atlantic; Thomas Friedmancovered it in the New York Times. Tim Miller even covered it on Morning Joe when he said that Trump’s rise to power was “a bottom-up thing.” In fact, it was a Scottish thing. |
Anonymous
This is extremely racist and off putting . No wonder there is a majority of people who will vote for Trump. |
Anonymous
NP. My Slavic EE American family is all blue. To even question the superiority of the Dem party, would get you in big trouble growing up. Huge. |
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A prescient thread
Firmly proven this week |
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The most noticeable observation of MAGA types I know is that they tend to have very, very few ethnically and/or culturally different friends, if any. Maybe some acquaintances but not true friends.
They ironically complain that liberals live in a bubble though. |