Can someone explain how DeSantis ever wins?

[Anonymous]

The above video is chilling.

What they are doing to Disney is downright illegal.

Anyone who doesn't see this is ignorant or evil.

[Anonymous]

It really is indicative of how far the Republican Party has twisted that the party that used to be strongly in favor of corporate rights and local control of education is now obsessed with telling corporations and local school districts what they can’t do or say.
The disney thing is particularly chilling — disney is a very savvy and successful corporation that has read market demand in a very democratic way over the years. They are not crazy woke. All disney did to incite desantis retaliation was to express its very to the state legislature that the don’t say gay bill was detrimental to Florida business (which is true — ask Arizona about the MLK day fiasco or South Carolina about their flag). That is a totally valid and not surprising view for a large corporation that pays a lot on taxes and gets more of its revenue for out of state to express.

If you talk to educators in Florida (including through university level) they are not happy with the level of political interference in their work, even in STEM fields. De Santis is going to ruin a university system that they spent decades building up into one of the best in the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The above video is chilling.

What they are doing to Disney is downright illegal.

Anyone who doesn't see this is ignorant or evil.

In what way is that video "chilling"? It was a very straightforward explanation of the review process, not "chilling" at all. Please explain why you want to provide children with inappropriate material?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The above video is chilling.

What they are doing to Disney is downright illegal.

Anyone who doesn't see this is ignorant or evil.

In what way is that video "chilling"? It was a very straightforward explanation of the review process, not "chilling" at all. Please explain why you want to provide children with inappropriate material?

Inappropriate to whom? Some random parent or right wing nut job?

You know this is just a fear campaign.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The above video is chilling.

What they are doing to Disney is downright illegal.

Anyone who doesn't see this is ignorant or evil.

In what way is that video "chilling"? It was a very straightforward explanation of the review process, not "chilling" at all. Please explain why you want to provide children with inappropriate material?

Inappropriate to whom? Some random parent or right wing nut job?

You know this is just a fear campaign.

That might be your opinion, but it's not mine. In reality, the "fear campaign" is coming from the overwrought and histrionic left, who are pushing misinformation, as usual.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/02/01/felony-charges-unapproved-books/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The above video is chilling.

What they are doing to Disney is downright illegal.

Anyone who doesn't see this is ignorant or evil.

In what way is that video "chilling"? It was a very straightforward explanation of the review process, not "chilling" at all. Please explain why you want to provide children with inappropriate material?

Inappropriate to whom? Some random parent or right wing nut job?

You know this is just a fear campaign.

DP. I find books like Gender Queer inappropriate for children. If we need to have a review process, then we need to have one. I dont trust schools anymore to have common sense about what's appropriate sexual content for kids. If you guys want to pretend that this is about Little Red Riding Hpod, go on ahead because it validates the need for this process.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What DeSantis is doing is outright fascism.


Anyone who supports him is a fool.


He is taking away women's rights, targeting blacks, the LGBTQ community



He will be after you are your loved ones next.

You understand how talking to kindergarten children about sex isnt a pro-LBGT position, right? I can support gay rights and also support parents rights to not have their elementary student receive sex ed.

You understand that isn't what was actually happening, right? It is just lies to get people like you riled up.

Again: my teacher friends in Florida had to empty their libraries because they were told they could be guilty of a felony if a parent complained about ANY book, including Little Red Riding Hood.

Told by who? You keep saying that. I sincerely doubt DeSantis or any of his appointed officials informed your teacher friend that Little Red Riding Hood is a felony.

They were told by their school administration.

In fact there's a big story in WAPO about it.


Look it up. Educate yourself. DeSantis is weaponizing the governorship. He is a full on dictator now.
+1 Go read the book burning thread. This is the official video from Duval County schools regarding classroom libraries. Every book in a classroom must be approved by a certified media specialist or the teacher can be charged with a felony.

ANY parent or "community member" can challenge a book and open up the offending teacher to possible criminal charges. Not in some rural backwater corner, this is Jacksonville.

I teach third grade and that requirement sounds like a huge PITA. I have hundreds of books on the shelves of my classroom library and I think I’d just box them all up and pack them away.

[Anonymous]

Hundreds?
Well, the end goal is everyone ends up at the same place so go right ahead and be book free.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It really is indicative of how far the Republican Party has twisted that the party that used to be strongly in favor of corporate rights and local control of education is now obsessed with telling corporations and local school districts what they can’t do or say.
The disney thing is particularly chilling — disney is a very savvy and successful corporation that has read market demand in a very democratic way over the years. They are not crazy woke. All disney did to incite desantis retaliation was to express its very to the state legislature that the don’t say gay bill was detrimental to Florida business (which is true — ask Arizona about the MLK day fiasco or South Carolina about their flag). That is a totally valid and not surprising view for a large corporation that pays a lot on taxes and gets more of its revenue for out of state to express.

If you talk to educators in Florida (including through university level) they are not happy with the level of political interference in their work, even in STEM fields. De Santis is going to ruin a university system that they spent decades building up into one of the best in the country.

Chilling, lol?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hundreds?
Well, the end goal is everyone ends up at the same place so go right ahead and be book free.

Yes, easily hundreds.

I don’t understand your second sentence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The above video is chilling.

What they are doing to Disney is downright illegal.

Anyone who doesn't see this is ignorant or evil.

In what way is that video "chilling"? It was a very straightforward explanation of the review process, not "chilling" at all. Please explain why you want to provide children with inappropriate material?

Inappropriate to whom? Some random parent or right wing nut job?

You know this is just a fear campaign.

That might be your opinion, but it's not mine. In reality, the "fear campaign" is coming from the overwrought and histrionic left, who are pushing misinformation, as usual.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/02/01/felony-charges-unapproved-books/

Wow talk about propaganda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The above video is chilling.

What they are doing to Disney is downright illegal.

Anyone who doesn't see this is ignorant or evil.

In what way is that video "chilling"? It was a very straightforward explanation of the review process, not "chilling" at all. Please explain why you want to provide children with inappropriate material?

Inappropriate to whom? Some random parent or right wing nut job?

You know this is just a fear campaign.

That might be your opinion, but it's not mine. In reality, the "fear campaign" is coming from the overwrought and histrionic left, who are pushing misinformation, as usual.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/02/01/felony-charges-unapproved-books/

Wow talk about propaganda.

That snopes link says that yes, teachers are being warned that any books could bring a third degree felony charge.

The vagueness of the law is the point. It is used to create an atmosphere of fear.

[Anonymous]

Pasco County is going to use almost $3 million in Covid relief funds to buy brand-new books for all its elementary school teachers to have in their classroom libraries. The classrooms will only be allowed to have approved books ("a common set of titles for each grade level that are aligned to standards and benchmarks, cultivate the curiosity and interest of students and support the development of literacy in all students"). https://www.smore.com/gemcs

Teachers are not happy.

In an online chat group, one wrote of having a panic attack. Another wondered how the district would adequately replace the hundreds of books she had collected over decades.

Deer Park Elementary third-grade teacher Magen Wilson said she cried upon learning the direction the state law is sending the district.

“Books are incredibly powerful and empowering. They are a safe space to learn about uncomfortable things and provide a safe escape for people of all ages,” Wilson told the Tampa Bay Times via email. “I feel like children are now being robbed of those needed experiences.”

She said throughout her 14 years teaching, she’s put together a set of books in which her students can find themselves, so they can feel the literature includes them. Creating a cookie-cutter selection doesn’t allow for the variety of situations that teachers see, she said.

Also

At the same time, the district has removed access to the Pasco County public library system through students’ online district portal. It did so after hearing parents detail how children could access adult-oriented materials through the system.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/04/pasco-replace-k-5-classroom-libraries-nod-floridas-new-book-rules/

I devoured books when I was in elementary school. I remember specifically my teacher giving me her preview copy of Mrs Frisby and the Rats of NIMH in 2nd grade because she thought I'd like it. And it inspired in me a life-long love of science fiction.

Limiting books to children is the OPPOSITE of what an educational system should be doing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pasco County is going to use almost $3 million in Covid relief funds to buy brand-new books for all its elementary school teachers to have in their classroom libraries. The classrooms will only be allowed to have approved books ("a common set of titles for each grade level that are aligned to standards and benchmarks, cultivate the curiosity and interest of students and support the development of literacy in all students"). https://www.smore.com/gemcs

Teachers are not happy.

In an online chat group, one wrote of having a panic attack. Another wondered how the district would adequately replace the hundreds of books she had collected over decades.

Deer Park Elementary third-grade teacher Magen Wilson said she cried upon learning the direction the state law is sending the district.

“Books are incredibly powerful and empowering. They are a safe space to learn about uncomfortable things and provide a safe escape for people of all ages,” Wilson told the Tampa Bay Times via email. “I feel like children are now being robbed of those needed experiences.”

She said throughout her 14 years teaching, she’s put together a set of books in which her students can find themselves, so they can feel the literature includes them. Creating a cookie-cutter selection doesn’t allow for the variety of situations that teachers see, she said.

Also

At the same time, the district has removed access to the Pasco County public library system through students’ online district portal. It did so after hearing parents detail how children could access adult-oriented materials through the system.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/02/04/pasco-replace-k-5-classroom-libraries-nod-floridas-new-book-rules/

I devoured books when I was in elementary school. I remember specifically my teacher giving me her preview copy of Mrs Frisby and the Rats of NIMH in 2nd grade because she thought I'd like it. And it inspired in me a life-long love of science fiction.

Limiting books to children is the OPPOSITE of what an educational system should be doing.

I was a voracious reader and read a lot of adult books as a child. We wouldnt be here if we werent dealing with books that have drawings of naked children touching each others genitals, kneeing to simulate oral sex, and discussions of ingesting vaginal fluid. Im okay with adult books in schools. Im not okay with pornography. This shouldnt even be controversial, but it is. A large minority want pornography in school. So we have to have rules for things that used to be just basic standards of decency. We either need these measures, or school choice where we can elect porn-free schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The above video is chilling.

What they are doing to Disney is downright illegal.

Anyone who doesn't see this is ignorant or evil.

In what way is that video "chilling"? It was a very straightforward explanation of the review process, not "chilling" at all. Please explain why you want to provide children with inappropriate material?

Inappropriate to whom? Some random parent or right wing nut job?

You know this is just a fear campaign.

That might be your opinion, but it's not mine. In reality, the "fear campaign" is coming from the overwrought and histrionic left, who are pushing misinformation, as usual.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/02/01/felony-charges-unapproved-books/

Wow talk about propaganda.

Snopes is now propaganda? Sure, pal.