Grand Jury report on LCPS sexual assault cases is unsealed

[Anonymous]

She may have consented to sex on prior occasions, but she didn’t consent to anal sex on this occasion. I truly don’t understand why this is so hard to get, but this kind of thinking is exactly how and why school officials looked the other way and let another incidents happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She may have consented to sex on prior occasions, but she didn’t consent to anal sex on this occasion. I truly don’t understand why this is so hard to get, but this kind of thinking is exactly how and why school officials looked the other way and let another incidents happen.

The boy said g he e went in the wrong hole accidentally. They were in a confined space and it is possible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She may have consented to sex on prior occasions, but she didn’t consent to anal sex on this occasion. I truly don’t understand why this is so hard to get, but this kind of thinking is exactly how and why school officials looked the other way and let another incidents happen.

I’m curious what the school officials should have done here. Especially with a rape accusation that came after consensual sex. How many people is it appropriate to tell that someone has an accusation against them? The wider it gets out, the bigger problem with the rights of the accused.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She may have consented to sex on prior occasions, but she didn’t consent to anal sex on this occasion. I truly don’t understand why this is so hard to get, but this kind of thinking is exactly how and why school officials looked the other way and let another incidents happen.

The boy said g he e went in the wrong hole accidentally. They were in a confined space and it is possible.

He had a terrible pattern of behavior and many people raised concerns both before and after the first incident. No one took any action.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She may have consented to sex on prior occasions, but she didn’t consent to anal sex on this occasion. I truly don’t understand why this is so hard to get, but this kind of thinking is exactly how and why school officials looked the other way and let another incidents happen.

The boy said g he e went in the wrong hole accidentally. They were in a confined space and it is possible.

He had a terrible pattern of behavior and many people raised concerns both before and after the first incident. No one took any action.

He obviously has problems too, I just don’t know that this was a slam dunk case of rape here. Especially, when a teacher came in the bathroom during the incident and and the girl never requested help. I think both students should’ve been expelled.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She may have consented to sex on prior occasions, but she didn’t consent to anal sex on this occasion. I truly don’t understand why this is so hard to get, but this kind of thinking is exactly how and why school officials looked the other way and let another incidents happen.

The boy said g he e went in the wrong hole accidentally. They were in a confined space and it is possible.

He had a terrible pattern of behavior and many people raised concerns both before and after the first incident. No one took any action.

He obviously has problems too, I just don’t know that this was a slam dunk case of rape here. Especially, when a teacher came in the bathroom during the incident and and the girl never requested help. I think both students should’ve been expelled.

This. I've been proudly waving my metoo banner but this case is bs.

[Anonymous]

The fact of the matter is that he raped once again when transferred. Sorry but LCPS dropped the ball big time and then tried to cover it up. Why are you wasting time defending incompetent, unsafe management unless you are their lawyer, PR firm or the accused? More people should be fired including the TA who walked into the bathroom.

[Anonymous]

I want to know when the sheriff department is going to be held accountable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to know when the sheriff department is going to be held accountable.

For LCPS’ incompetent mail department?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I want to know when the sheriff department is going to be held accountable.

For what exactly?
Blame MAGA not anyone else

[Anonymous]

I want to know when school systems will no longer be forced to play insane political games, and stick to educating school children. Just open a his, a her, and a uni bathroom and call it a day already.

From what I understand, the administration sat on their hands because they thought this situation had LGBQT overtones and they didn't want to be accused of acting in a bigoted way. So the second girl got assaulted.

This isn't a MAGA problem. This is the schools getting forced to deal with the larger political climate with rapidly changing mores and cultural values.

[Anonymous]

The second girl got assaulted because Devos made major changes to the student discipline system. He could not simply be sent to (it used to be Douglass, what do they use now?) but moved to a different school. That's not thanks to the school board, they don't have the power everyone seems to think they have.

[Anonymous]

Last night the school board voted to not release the independent investigation related to the 2021 sexual assaults in a 3-6 vote.

One of the current SB members campaigned on a promise to vote to release the report but went back on that promise last night. Disappointing to say the least.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last night the school board voted to not release the independent investigation related to the 2021 sexual assaults in a 3-6 vote.

One of the current SB members campaigned on a promise to vote to release the report but went back on that promise last night. Disappointing to say the least.

I don’t know why you feel entitled to read it.

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Anonymous wrote:Side note - the boy was wearing a skirt. A few students who knew him will tell you he did not identify as gender fluid, it was just something that was done as a distraction.

This.
Too many people too focused on trying to identify him as trans or gender fluid, when there is absolutely no evidence that was the case. It just serves as a political flashpoint to generate headlines and conservative outrage.
I went to high school in the 90s. A boy in my graduating class used to show up to school in a kilt on occasion. Not a Scot, not trans or gender fluid…just did it to get a response and attention.
I don’t care what he was wearing. I care that he raped 2 girls.

I wish this was highlighted more. The only people who mention gender-fluid are national media when talking about LCPS. The actually people who went to school with the rapist, his teachers, his family - never claimed that.

Its to distract from the fact that this boy belongs in prison.

I'm not sure about that. I agree that the boy belongs in prison and that, by all accounts, he was not gender-fluid. I still question whether leadership downplayed or was not transparent about the initial incident because there were reports that the boy may have been trans or gender-fluid and the attack occurred while the system was formulating the bathroom policy.

You know how when kids shoot up schools all these people come out and say “we knew something was off” and tons of prior reports are released? That’s like what happened here. When kids are involved, schools are SHOCKINGLY limited in what they can do no matter how troubling the behavior or actions or speech of that child. It’s like until they commit the crime, you can’t do a thing. I’m a teacher and we all know the kids who have giant files in counseling, the school psychologist, admin, and you just report report report knowing full well you can’t stop anything that might be coming, you’re only building the file. And this isn’t like it’s one bad principal. It’s the way the entire school systems and laws to protect minors are set up. Until they actually DO something, schools cannot take any real action against them. Then of course they do it and it’s too late. So no a “simple convo” wouldn’t have changed anything. A violent kid was in a school and no matter how many people knew he was a risk, nothing could be done until he was provably violent.

DP. I’m a teacher too. I agree with all of this but it’s worth pointing out that this kid had serious behavior issues including fights and highly disruptive behavior, per his mother, since kindergarten. I guarantee his teachers tried repeatedly to get him moved to a more restrictive setting before the first rape and the district refused.

Yes, exactly my point. We the teachers see and KNOW and we document our asses off. But we are told nothing can be done UNTIL they escalate - it’s too late then!

DP and not a teacher...but I have family who are retired teachers, and this type of scenario has been playing out for YEARS.
My mom taught a kid back in the 80s, in elementary school, and even in 3rd grade, it was obvious he was a psychopath. There were documented incidents of physical abuse at school, including with both my mom, the principal, and other teachers...nothing was done, his family could not control him, the situation only got worse as the boy got older, and now he is facing life imprisonment for multiple homicides. Writing was on the wall from a young age, but nothing was done to get the kid help or protect those around him.

Sadly, after an incident with my child last month I have seen it firsthand. As a parent, of the victim of a known class behavioral issue, we have been given the runaround and “yes” we’ll take care of it. We only know of this students background through our child’s classmates and prior incidents. I agree these kids get worse as they age and ramp up behavior. We were told by the sheriff we have the right to pursue this as a misdemeanor assault. These kids are 11 years old!!! What is most disturbing, to me, is we have no right to know how it has been handles with parents of the child, what disciplinary action has been taken, or if our child is safe going forward. I don’t entirely blame the schools! I think a lot of this BS stems from lack of discipline at home and parents burying their head in the sand… especially if the child is a known problem.

As a parent who waited too long (husband didn’t agree), please move your child to another school. The damage this other child is doing to your child is lasting. My 28 year old told me over the weekend how much he appreciated me coming to his defense and then moving him. It matters

Scenarios like this play out in school systems all over the country. This isn't just an LCPS problem. As the teachers mentioned previously, the abusers have all the rights; other students have none. Parents have no right to the truth about what is going on and whether any measures are being taken to address abusive behavior. Now that my kids are done with public school, I can look back to the years when I went from being a normal, involved mom who regularly volunteered at schools and always gave the teachers the benefit of the doubt on everything to being a more aggressive helicopter mom. It all started when my young kid was choked by another student, and the school didn't tell me about it. For years the same kid terrorized others, causing several to leave the school entirely. By the time one of my kids, who is difficult by nature, reached 5th grade, the chaos caused by this kid and a few others in the school had impacted the teachers and students alike. My ADHD kid, who has difficulty regulating his own emotions, just checked out. I mean, you tell kids that school is important and that they need to do their work and hand in assignments, yet the adults in the school building don't seem interested in keeping them safe from physical harm. These unhealthy dynamics wind up pitting parents against teachers and administrators and ultimately, hurt kids the most. In our case, it took two years of therapy and a move to private school to restore our kid to a functioning human being.

I agree this is not an isolated local problem. But this lack of the "other" students' rights needs to end. There is no age too young to investigate and come down hard on behavior that endangers other students - you never know what is psychologically going on with that child or teen, and if the behavior is ignored, it will only escalate.