NYC mayor declares 'emergency' due to migrants

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Anonymous wrote:As with any large societal problem, the solution is in the middle between extreme viewpoints on both sides. But we have such a dysfunctional congress that no meaningful reform is likely to take place anytime soon. It is what it is.


We could begin by not making it comfortable and welcoming for people to enter illegally.


Aggree.

Localities and states should do the following to make life difficult while Congress doesn't do anything:

* no driver's licenses or state issued IDs or social security number

* no bank accounts allowed without state ID

* no rentals allowed unless to a citizen or someone who can provide proof of legal residency

* no in state tuition

* require proof of state issued ID to wire money abroad


Make it very uncomfortable to live here even if you can pour through the border.


If Congress does nothing, then they’re allowed in, and are here legally.



That doesn’t mean you have legal permanent residence, which still has to be determined in court. No laws require anyone to provide non permanent residents with banking access, housing access or driver’s licenses. Make it very uncomfortable for living life here.


How is that even possible? They have legal presence.


Legal presence =/= permanent residence. How’s it hard to understand? You need a court date to grant asylum. There are no laws that require banks to allow access to the banking system for non-permanent residents. Make it a law that doesn’t allow non-residents, with few exceptions like students etc, to open bank accounts for starters. Do the same for long term housing. Permanent residence must be required except for maybe students.


That would prevent all legal immigrants from putting down roots. How is that going to help?

I know it’s a crazy idea, but how about we expect Congress to do their damn job, and legislate a fix?
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Anonymous wrote:As with any large societal problem, the solution is in the middle between extreme viewpoints on both sides. But we have such a dysfunctional congress that no meaningful reform is likely to take place anytime soon. It is what it is.


We could begin by not making it comfortable and welcoming for people to enter illegally.


Aggree.

Localities and states should do the following to make life difficult while Congress doesn't do anything:

* no driver's licenses or state issued IDs or social security number

* no bank accounts allowed without state ID

* no rentals allowed unless to a citizen or someone who can provide proof of legal residency

* no in state tuition

* require proof of state issued ID to wire money abroad


Make it very uncomfortable to live here even if you can pour through the border.


If Congress does nothing, then they’re allowed in, and are here legally.



That doesn’t mean you have legal permanent residence, which still has to be determined in court. No laws require anyone to provide non permanent residents with banking access, housing access or driver’s licenses. Make it very uncomfortable for living life here.


How is that even possible? They have legal presence.


Legal presence =/= permanent residence. How’s it hard to understand? You need a court date to grant asylum. There are no laws that require banks to allow access to the banking system for non-permanent residents. Make it a law that doesn’t allow non-residents, with few exceptions like students etc, to open bank accounts for starters. Do the same for long term housing. Permanent residence must be required except for maybe students.


That would prevent all legal immigrants from putting down roots. How is that going to help?

I know it’s a crazy idea, but how about we expect Congress to do their damn job, and legislate a fix?



No it wouldn’t, legal residents would include people with work visas if they’re waiting for their green card. They would be exempted. That’s because it means they were doing things legally with UCIS. You’re here legally if you ask for asylum, but it doesn’t mean you’re an asylee until a court has granted it. No one has to provide you by law with long term housing, driver’s licenses, or banking. Cut it off until they’re legal permanent residents. Sure, you can come in all you want. It’s not required that we make it comfortable for you.
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Anonymous wrote:As with any large societal problem, the solution is in the middle between extreme viewpoints on both sides. But we have such a dysfunctional congress that no meaningful reform is likely to take place anytime soon. It is what it is.


We could begin by not making it comfortable and welcoming for people to enter illegally.


Aggree.

Localities and states should do the following to make life difficult while Congress doesn't do anything:

* no driver's licenses or state issued IDs or social security number

* no bank accounts allowed without state ID

* no rentals allowed unless to a citizen or someone who can provide proof of legal residency

* no in state tuition

* require proof of state issued ID to wire money abroad


Make it very uncomfortable to live here even if you can pour through the border.


If Congress does nothing, then they’re allowed in, and are here legally.



That doesn’t mean you have legal permanent residence, which still has to be determined in court. No laws require anyone to provide non permanent residents with banking access, housing access or driver’s licenses. Make it very uncomfortable for living life here.


How is that even possible? They have legal presence.


Legal presence =/= permanent residence. How’s it hard to understand? You need a court date to grant asylum. There are no laws that require banks to allow access to the banking system for non-permanent residents. Make it a law that doesn’t allow non-residents, with few exceptions like students etc, to open bank accounts for starters. Do the same for long term housing. Permanent residence must be required except for maybe students.


That would prevent all legal immigrants from putting down roots. How is that going to help?

I know it’s a crazy idea, but how about we expect Congress to do their damn job, and legislate a fix?



No it wouldn’t, legal residents would include people with work visas if they’re waiting for their green card. They would be exempted. That’s because it means they were doing things legally with UCIS. You’re here legally if you ask for asylum, but it doesn’t mean you’re an asylee until a court has granted it. No one has to provide you by law with long term housing, driver’s licenses, or banking. Cut it off until they’re legal permanent residents. Sure, you can come in all you want. It’s not required that we make it comfortable for you.


Kinda like getting your kids to leave the nest.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As with any large societal problem, the solution is in the middle between extreme viewpoints on both sides. But we have such a dysfunctional congress that no meaningful reform is likely to take place anytime soon. It is what it is.


We could begin by not making it comfortable and welcoming for people to enter illegally.


Aggree.

Localities and states should do the following to make life difficult while Congress doesn't do anything:

* no driver's licenses or state issued IDs or social security number

* no bank accounts allowed without state ID

* no rentals allowed unless to a citizen or someone who can provide proof of legal residency

* no in state tuition

* require proof of state issued ID to wire money abroad


Make it very uncomfortable to live here even if you can pour through the border.


If Congress does nothing, then they’re allowed in, and are here legally.



That doesn’t mean you have legal permanent residence, which still has to be determined in court. No laws require anyone to provide non permanent residents with banking access, housing access or driver’s licenses. Make it very uncomfortable for living life here.


How is that even possible? They have legal presence.


Legal presence =/= permanent residence. How’s it hard to understand? You need a court date to grant asylum. There are no laws that require banks to allow access to the banking system for non-permanent residents. Make it a law that doesn’t allow non-residents, with few exceptions like students etc, to open bank accounts for starters. Do the same for long term housing. Permanent residence must be required except for maybe students.


That would prevent all legal immigrants from putting down roots. How is that going to help?

I know it’s a crazy idea, but how about we expect Congress to do their damn job, and legislate a fix?



No it wouldn’t, legal residents would include people with work visas if they’re waiting for their green card. They would be exempted. That’s because it means they were doing things legally with UCIS. You’re here legally if you ask for asylum, but it doesn’t mean you’re an asylee until a court has granted it. No one has to provide you by law with long term housing, driver’s licenses, or banking. Cut it off until they’re legal permanent residents. Sure, you can come in all you want. It’s not required that we make it comfortable for you.


This is not accurate.
Anonymous
In the meantime, scores of business leaders send an open letter to the president and congress urging federal help for NYC and better control of the border.

"In the interim, we urge you to take immediate action to better control the border and the process of asylum and provide relief to the cities and states that are bearing the burdens posed by the influx of asylum seekers."

https://pfnyc.org/news/open-letter-to-the-president-congressional-leaders-from-concerned-business-leaders-regarding-the-asylum-seekers-humanitarian-crisis/
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Wtf is a letter to Biden going to accomplish?
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Anonymous wrote:Wtf is a letter to Biden going to accomplish?


Signed by some prominent CEOs like Jamie Dimon and Larry Fink who are big Dem donors.
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Anonymous wrote:Wtf is a letter to Biden going to accomplish?


Signed by some prominent CEOs like Jamie Dimon and Larry Fink who are big Dem donors.


Biden can’t change the asylum laws!
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Anonymous wrote:Wtf is a letter to Biden going to accomplish?


Signed by some prominent CEOs like Jamie Dimon and Larry Fink who are big Dem donors.


Biden can’t change the asylum laws!


The asylum laws are not what created this crisis. If that were the case, we would have seen numbers in the millions with Obama and Trump. But, we didn't see that.
It has been Biden's rhetoric, his lack of enforcement, his unwillingness to leave in place policies that were working, and his desire to have migrants surge the border.
It is all part of his plan.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wtf is a letter to Biden going to accomplish?


Signed by some prominent CEOs like Jamie Dimon and Larry Fink who are big Dem donors.


Biden can’t change the asylum laws!


The asylum laws are not what created this crisis. If that were the case, we would have seen numbers in the millions with Obama and Trump. But, we didn't see that.
It has been Biden's rhetoric, his lack of enforcement, his unwillingness to leave in place policies that were working, and his desire to have migrants surge the border.
It is all part of his plan.


What lack of enforcement? Asylum seekers turn themselves in the second the cross the border and then stay for years waiting for a hearing. The same thing happened under Obama and Trump. If you want to change the system, talk to Congress because the president can make law.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wtf is a letter to Biden going to accomplish?


Signed by some prominent CEOs like Jamie Dimon and Larry Fink who are big Dem donors.


Biden can’t change the asylum laws!


The asylum laws are not what created this crisis. If that were the case, we would have seen numbers in the millions with Obama and Trump. But, we didn't see that.
It has been Biden's rhetoric, his lack of enforcement, his unwillingness to leave in place policies that were working, and his desire to have migrants surge the border.
It is all part of his plan.

At this point, Joe is just a puppet.
Open borders the DEMOCRAT plan.
Remember the Democrat candidates debate stage? Every one of them raised their hand in support.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wtf is a letter to Biden going to accomplish?


Signed by some prominent CEOs like Jamie Dimon and Larry Fink who are big Dem donors.


Biden can’t change the asylum laws!


The asylum laws are not what created this crisis. If that were the case, we would have seen numbers in the millions with Obama and Trump. But, we didn't see that.
It has been Biden's rhetoric, his lack of enforcement, his unwillingness to leave in place policies that were working, and his desire to have migrants surge the border.
It is all part of his plan.


What lack of enforcement? Asylum seekers turn themselves in the second the cross the border and then stay for years waiting for a hearing. The same thing happened under Obama and Trump. If you want to change the system, talk to Congress because the president can make law.


No. it. didn't. With Biden, we have seen nearly 7 million encounters. 7 million. Demonstrably more than any president IN OUR HISTORY.
He did away with every. single. measure. Trump had in place. THAT lack of enforcement.
Add to that the fact that this administration has told CBP and ICE that simply being in the country illegally is not grounds for deportation.
This goes directly against our immigration laws.

To wit:
(and 2023 will look about the same as 2021 and 2022)

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Reagan’s amnesty of 86’ is the reason why we are in the current mess.

IRCA of 86’ promised to curb illegal immigration. It failed to do so because Reagan signed a bill that removed any sanctions against employers that hire illegals.
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Anonymous wrote:In the meantime, scores of business leaders send an open letter to the president and congress urging federal help for NYC and better control of the border.

"In the interim, we urge you to take immediate action to better control the border and the process of asylum and provide relief to the cities and states that are bearing the burdens posed by the influx of asylum seekers."

https://pfnyc.org/news/open-letter-to-the-president-congressional-leaders-from-concerned-business-leaders-regarding-the-asylum-seekers-humanitarian-crisis/


Biden better not give any money to New York City If he wants to get re-elected. Most of those people are the upper 1% raping our country
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Anonymous wrote:Reagan’s amnesty of 86’ is the reason why we are in the current mess.

IRCA of 86’ promised to curb illegal immigration. It failed to do so because Reagan signed a bill that removed any sanctions against employers that hire illegals.


Democrats agreed to secure the border. But, any measure to secure the border was fought against by Democrats. So, the border remains unsecured.
Not much has changed.

Rumor has it that Reagan said, in retrospect, this was the biggest mistake he made.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
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