NYC mayor declares 'emergency' due to migrants

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When did NYC offer to house migrants and pay their expenses? They didn't. So why is Texas sending NYC migrants, lying to them, claiming that NYC made that offer?

And don't say "you voted for this blah blah blah" and "sanctuary city blah blah blah." Nobody voted to spend millions housing and feeding random migrants. That's not what "sanctuary city" means. Sanctuary city only means that a city isn't going to do the feds' job on immigration control for them.


When did Texas offer to receive migrants and keep them? They didn't.

p.s.: You voted for this blah blah blah.


There was no relevant vote that you can point to, and by your own argument NYC apparently has every bit as much right to send them back to Texas as Texas had to send them to NYC.


NYC has that right. Will the migrants choose to go knowing that they aren't welcome, will not be housed, and will not get work authorizations? Nobody is illegal has consequences and this is one of them
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When did NYC offer to house migrants and pay their expenses? They didn't. So why is Texas sending NYC migrants, lying to them, claiming that NYC made that offer?

And don't say "you voted for this blah blah blah" and "sanctuary city blah blah blah." Nobody voted to spend millions housing and feeding random migrants. That's not what "sanctuary city" means. Sanctuary city only means that a city isn't going to do the feds' job on immigration control for them.



Yes you did. You voted in nitwits like AOC who are pro this crap. You voted in droves for Biden in NY. You vote for this stuff by sending down loony bin politicians like AOC and then vote for Biden. Maybe try using common sense while voting instead of voting automatically down the ticket party line.


I must have missed it when AOC passed a bill promising free room and board for illegals. Either post a citation for that bill, or STFU and stop making shit up. "Common sense" does not allow making shit up.


No. She didn't pass a bill. Democrats don't operate that way. They skirt around laws and don't have the time to actually legislate. Instead, they seek other kind of funding to ensure that these people who entered illegally have free housing. Tax payer funding, of course.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said she’s working with Mayor Adams to apply for more federal housing funds to help the Big Apple address the migrant crisis — but refused to call on President Biden to secure the border and instead welcomed the surge of asylum seekers.

The congresswoman said she’s working with City Hall on applying for grants through the Office of Housing and Urban Development.

“So they are working with that application on emergency housing services. We have a housing crisis in this city. There are many ways we need to respond to it,” Ocasio-Cortez said during a Wednesday night town hall meeting in The Bronx.

“We are in close communication with the mayor’s office and getting the resources necessary. If some states don’t want to do their job on that, that’s fine. But then those federal resources should come to New York City, and those federal dollars should come to places that want to take care of people, and we need that financial support. We are closely monitoring the situation.”


https://nypost.com/2022/10/13/aoc-backs-surge-at-border-while-seeking-migrants-aid-for-nyc/


So in other words you're making shit up.

She's talking about resources that were already available - and which were also available to Texas.


Your tax dollars at work!!!! Instead of using our hard earned money to actually secure the border and deport the people who enter illegally, the left is all about using our tax dollars to house, feed, and provide transportation and other services to those who are in our country illegally.
Screw the homeless! Screw the citizens!


Asylees are here legally. They’re permitted entry, and permitted to stay until their case is decided.

Only Congress can change the asylum laws. Republicans are benefiting from everyone blaming this on Biden, and won’t do anything to change the asylum laws.


They're not asylees. They're just gamers at exploiting stupid loopholes in our system who say magic words to unlock it. The vast majority are economic migrants trying to look for more money and better jobs. On no planet is any country whatsoever required to open their borders to economic migrants.


By “loophole,” you mean they legally applied for asylum?

Only Congress can change the asylum laws. They haven’t done it. Republicans are benefiting from blaming Biden, and Americans don’t know enough about their own laws to call them on it.



'Applying' i.e. just saying the magic word 'asylum' they will allow you to get released and stay in the country for many months to years so you can earn money to send back home, save, and then move back.

It's a joke. Why is there a surge in Venezuelans coming? What asylum do they need besides fleeing from a garbage economy? Who else needs asylum? They did mass incarcerations and obliterated gangs in El Salvador. They don't need asylum from gangs.

The biggest joke is how they all come here, earn money, and then move back home once they've saved enough. In the interim, they've overwhelmed our schools and hospitals, don't pay their fair share of taxes, and hoard affordable housing that our own citizens desperately need. Anyone who lives here for years illegally to earn money and then moves home should have their money confiscated. It is an insult to everyone trying to come in here legally who actually wants to be here.
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As with any large societal problem, the solution is in the middle between extreme viewpoints on both sides. But we have such a dysfunctional congress that no meaningful reform is likely to take place anytime soon. It is what it is.
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When did NYC offer to house migrants and pay their expenses? They didn't. So why is Texas sending NYC migrants, lying to them, claiming that NYC made that offer?

And don't say "you voted for this blah blah blah" and "sanctuary city blah blah blah." Nobody voted to spend millions housing and feeding random migrants. That's not what "sanctuary city" means. Sanctuary city only means that a city isn't going to do the feds' job on immigration control for them.



Yes you did. You voted in nitwits like AOC who are pro this crap. You voted in droves for Biden in NY. You vote for this stuff by sending down loony bin politicians like AOC and then vote for Biden. Maybe try using common sense while voting instead of voting automatically down the ticket party line.


I must have missed it when AOC passed a bill promising free room and board for illegals. Either post a citation for that bill, or STFU and stop making shit up. "Common sense" does not allow making shit up.


No. She didn't pass a bill. Democrats don't operate that way. They skirt around laws and don't have the time to actually legislate. Instead, they seek other kind of funding to ensure that these people who entered illegally have free housing. Tax payer funding, of course.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said she’s working with Mayor Adams to apply for more federal housing funds to help the Big Apple address the migrant crisis — but refused to call on President Biden to secure the border and instead welcomed the surge of asylum seekers.

The congresswoman said she’s working with City Hall on applying for grants through the Office of Housing and Urban Development.

“So they are working with that application on emergency housing services. We have a housing crisis in this city. There are many ways we need to respond to it,” Ocasio-Cortez said during a Wednesday night town hall meeting in The Bronx.

“We are in close communication with the mayor’s office and getting the resources necessary. If some states don’t want to do their job on that, that’s fine. But then those federal resources should come to New York City, and those federal dollars should come to places that want to take care of people, and we need that financial support. We are closely monitoring the situation.”


https://nypost.com/2022/10/13/aoc-backs-surge-at-border-while-seeking-migrants-aid-for-nyc/


So in other words you're making shit up.

She's talking about resources that were already available - and which were also available to Texas.


Your tax dollars at work!!!! Instead of using our hard earned money to actually secure the border and deport the people who enter illegally, the left is all about using our tax dollars to house, feed, and provide transportation and other services to those who are in our country illegally.
Screw the homeless! Screw the citizens!


Asylees are here legally. They’re permitted entry, and permitted to stay until their case is decided.

Only Congress can change the asylum laws. Republicans are benefiting from everyone blaming this on Biden, and won’t do anything to change the asylum laws.


They're not asylees. They're just gamers at exploiting stupid loopholes in our system who say magic words to unlock it. The vast majority are economic migrants trying to look for more money and better jobs. On no planet is any country whatsoever required to open their borders to economic migrants.


By “loophole,” you mean they legally applied for asylum?

Only Congress can change the asylum laws. They haven’t done it. Republicans are benefiting from blaming Biden, and Americans don’t know enough about their own laws to call them on it.



'Applying' i.e. just saying the magic word 'asylum' they will allow you to get released and stay in the country for many months to years so you can earn money to send back home, save, and then move back.

It's a joke. Why is there a surge in Venezuelans coming? What asylum do they need besides fleeing from a garbage economy? Who else needs asylum? They did mass incarcerations and obliterated gangs in El Salvador. They don't need asylum from gangs.

The biggest joke is how they all come here, earn money, and then move back home once they've saved enough. In the interim, they've overwhelmed our schools and hospitals, don't pay their fair share of taxes, and hoard affordable housing that our own citizens desperately need. Anyone who lives here for years illegally to earn money and then moves home should have their money confiscated. It is an insult to everyone trying to come in here legally who actually wants to be here.


Again, it’s 100% legal. If you don’t want it to be legal, then take it up with your fed reps.
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When did NYC offer to house migrants and pay their expenses? They didn't. So why is Texas sending NYC migrants, lying to them, claiming that NYC made that offer?

And don't say "you voted for this blah blah blah" and "sanctuary city blah blah blah." Nobody voted to spend millions housing and feeding random migrants. That's not what "sanctuary city" means. Sanctuary city only means that a city isn't going to do the feds' job on immigration control for them.



Yes you did. You voted in nitwits like AOC who are pro this crap. You voted in droves for Biden in NY. You vote for this stuff by sending down loony bin politicians like AOC and then vote for Biden. Maybe try using common sense while voting instead of voting automatically down the ticket party line.


I must have missed it when AOC passed a bill promising free room and board for illegals. Either post a citation for that bill, or STFU and stop making shit up. "Common sense" does not allow making shit up.


No. She didn't pass a bill. Democrats don't operate that way. They skirt around laws and don't have the time to actually legislate. Instead, they seek other kind of funding to ensure that these people who entered illegally have free housing. Tax payer funding, of course.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said she’s working with Mayor Adams to apply for more federal housing funds to help the Big Apple address the migrant crisis — but refused to call on President Biden to secure the border and instead welcomed the surge of asylum seekers.

The congresswoman said she’s working with City Hall on applying for grants through the Office of Housing and Urban Development.

“So they are working with that application on emergency housing services. We have a housing crisis in this city. There are many ways we need to respond to it,” Ocasio-Cortez said during a Wednesday night town hall meeting in The Bronx.

“We are in close communication with the mayor’s office and getting the resources necessary. If some states don’t want to do their job on that, that’s fine. But then those federal resources should come to New York City, and those federal dollars should come to places that want to take care of people, and we need that financial support. We are closely monitoring the situation.”


https://nypost.com/2022/10/13/aoc-backs-surge-at-border-while-seeking-migrants-aid-for-nyc/


So in other words you're making shit up.

She's talking about resources that were already available - and which were also available to Texas.


Your tax dollars at work!!!! Instead of using our hard earned money to actually secure the border and deport the people who enter illegally, the left is all about using our tax dollars to house, feed, and provide transportation and other services to those who are in our country illegally.
Screw the homeless! Screw the citizens!


Asylees are here legally. They’re permitted entry, and permitted to stay until their case is decided.

Only Congress can change the asylum laws. Republicans are benefiting from everyone blaming this on Biden, and won’t do anything to change the asylum laws.


They're not asylees. They're just gamers at exploiting stupid loopholes in our system who say magic words to unlock it. The vast majority are economic migrants trying to look for more money and better jobs. On no planet is any country whatsoever required to open their borders to economic migrants.


By “loophole,” you mean they legally applied for asylum?

Only Congress can change the asylum laws. They haven’t done it. Republicans are benefiting from blaming Biden, and Americans don’t know enough about their own laws to call them on it.



'Applying' i.e. just saying the magic word 'asylum' they will allow you to get released and stay in the country for many months to years so you can earn money to send back home, save, and then move back.

It's a joke. Why is there a surge in Venezuelans coming? What asylum do they need besides fleeing from a garbage economy? Who else needs asylum? They did mass incarcerations and obliterated gangs in El Salvador. They don't need asylum from gangs.

The biggest joke is how they all come here, earn money, and then move back home once they've saved enough. In the interim, they've overwhelmed our schools and hospitals, don't pay their fair share of taxes, and hoard affordable housing that our own citizens desperately need. Anyone who lives here for years illegally to earn money and then moves home should have their money confiscated. It is an insult to everyone trying to come in here legally who actually wants to be here.


Again, it’s 100% legal. If you don’t want it to be legal, then take it up with your fed reps.


Why has illegal immigration skyrocketed under Biden?
Why did Biden do away with the Stay in Mexico plan that was actually working?
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Anonymous wrote:As with any large societal problem, the solution is in the middle between extreme viewpoints on both sides. But we have such a dysfunctional congress that no meaningful reform is likely to take place anytime soon. It is what it is.


We could begin by not making it comfortable and welcoming for people to enter illegally.
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Anonymous wrote:As with any large societal problem, the solution is in the middle between extreme viewpoints on both sides. But we have such a dysfunctional congress that no meaningful reform is likely to take place anytime soon. It is what it is.


We could begin by not making it comfortable and welcoming for people to enter illegally.


Aggree.

Localities and states should do the following to make life difficult while Congress doesn't do anything:

* no driver's licenses or state issued IDs or social security number

* no bank accounts allowed without state ID

* no rentals allowed unless to a citizen or someone who can provide proof of legal residency

* no in state tuition

* require proof of state issued ID to wire money abroad


Make it very uncomfortable to live here even if you can pour through the border.
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Anonymous wrote:As with any large societal problem, the solution is in the middle between extreme viewpoints on both sides. But we have such a dysfunctional congress that no meaningful reform is likely to take place anytime soon. It is what it is.


We could begin by not making it comfortable and welcoming for people to enter illegally.


Aggree.

Localities and states should do the following to make life difficult while Congress doesn't do anything:

* no driver's licenses or state issued IDs or social security number

* no bank accounts allowed without state ID

* no rentals allowed unless to a citizen or someone who can provide proof of legal residency

* no in state tuition

* require proof of state issued ID to wire money abroad


Make it very uncomfortable to live here even if you can pour through the border.


And, do not allow them to vote.
And, hold them accountable for medical expenses.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As with any large societal problem, the solution is in the middle between extreme viewpoints on both sides. But we have such a dysfunctional congress that no meaningful reform is likely to take place anytime soon. It is what it is.


We could begin by not making it comfortable and welcoming for people to enter illegally.


Aggree.

Localities and states should do the following to make life difficult while Congress doesn't do anything:

* no driver's licenses or state issued IDs or social security number

* no bank accounts allowed without state ID

* no rentals allowed unless to a citizen or someone who can provide proof of legal residency

* no in state tuition

* require proof of state issued ID to wire money abroad


Make it very uncomfortable to live here even if you can pour through the border.


If Congress does nothing, then they’re allowed in, and are here legally.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:As with any large societal problem, the solution is in the middle between extreme viewpoints on both sides. But we have such a dysfunctional congress that no meaningful reform is likely to take place anytime soon. It is what it is.


We could begin by not making it comfortable and welcoming for people to enter illegally.


Aggree.

Localities and states should do the following to make life difficult while Congress doesn't do anything:

* no driver's licenses or state issued IDs or social security number

* no bank accounts allowed without state ID

* no rentals allowed unless to a citizen or someone who can provide proof of legal residency

* no in state tuition

* require proof of state issued ID to wire money abroad


Make it very uncomfortable to live here even if you can pour through the border.


If Congress does nothing, then they’re allowed in, and are here legally.



That doesn’t mean you have legal permanent residence, which still has to be determined in court. No laws require anyone to provide non permanent residents with banking access, housing access or driver’s licenses. Make it very uncomfortable for living life here.
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Anonymous wrote:As with any large societal problem, the solution is in the middle between extreme viewpoints on both sides. But we have such a dysfunctional congress that no meaningful reform is likely to take place anytime soon. It is what it is.


We could begin by not making it comfortable and welcoming for people to enter illegally.


Aggree.

Localities and states should do the following to make life difficult while Congress doesn't do anything:

* no driver's licenses or state issued IDs or social security number

* no bank accounts allowed without state ID

* no rentals allowed unless to a citizen or someone who can provide proof of legal residency

* no in state tuition

* require proof of state issued ID to wire money abroad


Make it very uncomfortable to live here even if you can pour through the border.


If Congress does nothing, then they’re allowed in, and are here legally.



That doesn’t mean you have legal permanent residence, which still has to be determined in court. No laws require anyone to provide non permanent residents with banking access, housing access or driver’s licenses. Make it very uncomfortable for living life here.


How is that even possible? They have legal presence.
Anonymous
Illegal immigration is one of the factors in decline of ER standards in hospitals. People without insurance go to ER for even small non urgent issues.
Anonymous
We make legal immigrants and work visa applicants jump through so many hoops for so long even though they bring their education, skills and money. Why can't we regulate illegal immigration to match our capacity to help.
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Anonymous wrote:As with any large societal problem, the solution is in the middle between extreme viewpoints on both sides. But we have such a dysfunctional congress that no meaningful reform is likely to take place anytime soon. It is what it is.


We could begin by not making it comfortable and welcoming for people to enter illegally.


Aggree.

Localities and states should do the following to make life difficult while Congress doesn't do anything:

* no driver's licenses or state issued IDs or social security number

* no bank accounts allowed without state ID

* no rentals allowed unless to a citizen or someone who can provide proof of legal residency

* no in state tuition

* require proof of state issued ID to wire money abroad


Make it very uncomfortable to live here even if you can pour through the border.


If Congress does nothing, then they’re allowed in, and are here legally.



That doesn’t mean you have legal permanent residence, which still has to be determined in court. No laws require anyone to provide non permanent residents with banking access, housing access or driver’s licenses. Make it very uncomfortable for living life here.


How is that even possible? They have legal presence.


Legal presence =/= permanent residence. How’s it hard to understand? You need a court date to grant asylum. There are no laws that require banks to allow access to the banking system for non-permanent residents. Make it a law that doesn’t allow non-residents, with few exceptions like students etc, to open bank accounts for starters. Do the same for long term housing. Permanent residence must be required except for maybe students.
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Anonymous wrote:We make legal immigrants and work visa applicants jump through so many hoops for so long even though they bring their education, skills and money. Why can't we regulate illegal immigration to match our capacity to help.



Because Democrats say it is racist, xenophobia, and oppression.
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