DC White flight - what will it mean for education?

[Anonymous]

People keep moving between suburbs and urban areas, its no big deal. Its not like cities are being deserted, left empty and real estate is dirt cheap because everyone is gone to Virginia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People keep moving between suburbs and urban areas, its no big deal. Its not like cities are being deserted, left empty and real estate is dirt cheap because everyone is gone to Virginia.

...yet.

DC was one of the cities losing more people since 2020.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People keep moving between suburbs and urban areas, its no big deal. Its not like cities are being deserted, left empty and real estate is dirt cheap because everyone is gone to Virginia.

...yet.

DC was one of the cities losing more people since 2020.

You forgot to mention that also applies to:
Montgomery County,
Fairfax County,
Arlington County, and
Alexandria

“Many of the region’s close-in suburbs also lost White residents at a much higher rate than previously, including Montgomery County, Md. as well as Fairfax and Arlington counties and the city of Alexandria in Virginia, according to an analysis of the estimates by William Frey, a senior demographer at the Brookings Institution.”

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/07/01/census-dc-white-population-pandemic/

[Anonymous]

Why do we *need* white students? Can't we just focus on the kids here and support them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do we *need* white students? Can't we just focus on the kids here and support them?

+1.

We don’t need them. HBCU grads (especially Spelman (Stacey Abrams), Morehouse (MLK Jr./Spike Lee), and Howard (VP Harris)) are a testament to that fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do we *need* white students? Can't we just focus on the kids here and support them?

+1.

We don’t need them. HBCU grads (especially Spelman (Stacey Abrams), Morehouse (MLK Jr./Spike Lee), and Howard (VP Harris)) are a testament to that fact.

DCPS doesn’t need white students. It does need more students that are not low-income. Being in schools with a majority of grade-level peers is what helps lagging students improve, so says the research.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do we *need* white students? Can't we just focus on the kids here and support them?

+1.

We don’t need them. HBCU grads (especially Spelman (Stacey Abrams), Morehouse (MLK Jr./Spike Lee), and Howard (VP Harris)) are a testament to that fact.

DCPS doesn’t need white students. It does need more students that are not low-income. Being in schools with a majority of grade-level peers is what helps lagging students improve, so says the research.

Completely disagree. Whites are the dominant group in our society and democracy and will continue to be for generations.

From where I sit, children of color, regardless of a class, who don't have a chance to mix with cohorts of white kids, to tap into their family's social and professional networks, in school and college miss out.

I will not encourage my children to attend HBCU's. I say this a a person of college who had few white classmates growing up, and no white friends until college. I feel like I would have been better off if I'd been able to attend racially and economically diverse schools, and not just because they might have been better than the schools I had access to academically.

[Anonymous]

DC has more white students, regardless of whether it needs them. The white population of DC may have declined between July 2020 and July 2021, according to the census, but white enrollment in DC schools went up from October 2020 to October 2021, both in absolute numbers and as a percentage of all students. You all are arguing about a supposed trend that doesn’t even exist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do we *need* white students? Can't we just focus on the kids here and support them?

+1.

We don’t need them. HBCU grads (especially Spelman (Stacey Abrams), Morehouse (MLK Jr./Spike Lee), and Howard (VP Harris)) are a testament to that fact.

DCPS doesn’t need white students. It does need more students that are not low-income. Being in schools with a majority of grade-level peers is what helps lagging students improve, so says the research.

Completely disagree. Whites are the dominant group in our society and democracy and will continue to be for generations.

From where I sit, children of color, regardless of a class, who don't have a chance to mix with cohorts of white kids, to tap into their family's social and professional networks, in school and college miss out.

I will not encourage my children to attend HBCU's. I say this a a person of college who had few white classmates growing up, and no white friends until college. I feel like I would have been better off if I'd been able to attend racially and economically diverse schools, and not just because they might have been better than the schools I had access to academically.

In this context, a Black person would simply say they’re Black. As a “person of color” (read: non-Black) you clearly don’t understand the history and value of Black colleges. That’s fine because you’re not the target audience. I would say that the aforementioned HBCU alums, plus countless others (including Thurgood Marshall, Oprah Winfrey, Rosalind Brewer, etc) didn’t miss out on anything with their degrees from Black colleges.

I’ll leave you with this fact:

“Despite the fact that Black colleges account for just 3 percent of four-year nonprofit colleges, their alumni account for roughly 80 percent of black judges and 50 percent of black lawyers and doctors, and their students account for 25 percent of black undergraduates who earn degrees in STEM (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics).”
Source: https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/05/howard-universitys-president-why-america-needs-hbcus/589582/

So, a great deal of Black college grads appear to be thriving and achieving the “American Dream.” However, you are free to continue to believe that the white man’s ice is colder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People keep moving between suburbs and urban areas, its no big deal. Its not like cities are being deserted, left empty and real estate is dirt cheap because everyone is gone to Virginia.

...yet.

DC was one of the cities losing more people since 2020.

Pandemic's side effects. It was happening to NY and London too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do we *need* white students? Can't we just focus on the kids here and support them?

Se need diversity, not segregation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC has more white students, regardless of whether it needs them. The white population of DC may have declined between July 2020 and July 2021, according to the census, but white enrollment in DC schools went up from October 2020 to October 2021, both in absolute numbers and as a percentage of all students. You all are arguing about a supposed trend that doesn’t even exist.

+1

[Anonymous]

It doesn't matter its race, religion, finances, education or what not, we need diversity everywhere to understand, learn and implement collective and improved perspective. In every field, from architecture, to space to epidemiology, we need all the brainpower and experiences to find better solutions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do we *need* white students? Can't we just focus on the kids here and support them?

+1.

We don’t need them. HBCU grads (especially Spelman (Stacey Abrams), Morehouse (MLK Jr./Spike Lee), and Howard (VP Harris)) are a testament to that fact.

DCPS doesn’t need white students. It does need more students that are not low-income. Being in schools with a majority of grade-level peers is what helps lagging students improve, so says the research.

Completely disagree. Whites are the dominant group in our society and democracy and will continue to be for generations.

From where I sit, children of color, regardless of a class, who don't have a chance to mix with cohorts of white kids, to tap into their family's social and professional networks, in school and college miss out.

I will not encourage my children to attend HBCU's. I say this a a person of college who had few white classmates growing up, and no white friends until college. I feel like I would have been better off if I'd been able to attend racially and economically diverse schools, and not just because they might have been better than the schools I had access to academically.

Must be biracial.

Anyway can we stop with this black white paradigm? There are other ethnic groups. As someone who actually grew up in a diverse area that has helped me but not specifically just white people.
And if my child wanted to go to and HBCU, I would be proud even though I did not go to one.

[Anonymous]

Just White does not equate to diversity. I would love people other than white people to come to DC.