DC White flight - what will it mean for education?

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Anonymous wrote:Just White does not equate to diversity. I would love people other than white people to come to DC.

Well, they aren’t, are they? Wonder if being overlooked or ignored has anything to do with that? Or wanting a functional public school system?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People keep moving between suburbs and urban areas, its no big deal. Its not like cities are being deserted, left empty and real estate is dirt cheap because everyone is gone to Virginia.

...yet.

DC was one of the cities losing more people since 2020.

You forgot to mention that also applies to:
Montgomery County,
Fairfax County,
Arlington County, and
Alexandria

“Many of the region’s close-in suburbs also lost White residents at a much higher rate than previously, including Montgomery County, Md. as well as Fairfax and Arlington counties and the city of Alexandria in Virginia, according to an analysis of the estimates by William Frey, a senior demographer at the Brookings Institution.”

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/07/01/census-dc-white-population-pandemic/

This has been pointed out in this thread SO MANY TIMES. Yet people like the one you replied to keep repeating the same thought over and over again. There is no point in even engaging them; they operate in bad faith. They have their conclusion ready to go and will attempt to make any facts (even ones that are at odds with their conclusion) fit their narrative and conclusion. When all else fails they just say, "I don't believe you" or demonize the messenger.

Now that I think about it, in may ways they remind me of Trump supporters...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we *need* white students? Can't we just focus on the kids here and support them?

+1.

We don’t need them. HBCU grads (especially Spelman (Stacey Abrams), Morehouse (MLK Jr./Spike Lee), and Howard (VP Harris)) are a testament to that fact.

DCPS doesn’t need white students. It does need more students that are not low-income. Being in schools with a majority of grade-level peers is what helps lagging students improve, so says the research.

Completely disagree. Whites are the dominant group in our society and democracy and will continue to be for generations.

From where I sit, children of color, regardless of a class, who don't have a chance to mix with cohorts of white kids, to tap into their family's social and professional networks, in school and college miss out.

I will not encourage my children to attend HBCU's. I say this a a person of college who had few white classmates growing up, and no white friends until college. I feel like I would have been better off if I'd been able to attend racially and economically diverse schools, and not just because they might have been better than the schools I had access to academically.

Must be biracial.

Anyway can we stop with this black white paradigm? There are other ethnic groups. As someone who actually grew up in a diverse area that has helped me but not specifically just white people.
And if my child wanted to go to and HBCU, I would be proud even though I did not go to one.

Not biracial. Pragmantic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we *need* white students? Can't we just focus on the kids here and support them?

+1.

We don’t need them. HBCU grads (especially Spelman (Stacey Abrams), Morehouse (MLK Jr./Spike Lee), and Howard (VP Harris)) are a testament to that fact.

DCPS doesn’t need white students. It does need more students that are not low-income. Being in schools with a majority of grade-level peers is what helps lagging students improve, so says the research.

Completely disagree. Whites are the dominant group in our society and democracy and will continue to be for generations.

From where I sit, children of color, regardless of a class, who don't have a chance to mix with cohorts of white kids, to tap into their family's social and professional networks, in school and college miss out.

I will not encourage my children to attend HBCU's. I say this a a person of college who had few white classmates growing up, and no white friends until college. I feel like I would have been better off if I'd been able to attend racially and economically diverse schools, and not just because they might have been better than the schools I had access to academically.

Must be biracial.

Anyway can we stop with this black white paradigm? There are other ethnic groups. As someone who actually grew up in a diverse area that has helped me but not specifically just white people.
And if my child wanted to go to and HBCU, I would be proud even though I did not go to one.

Not biracial. Pragmantic.

Pragmantic? So, you’re not biracial and you’re not a good speller.
I suggest that you focus some of that pragmatism on improving your reading/writing/spelling skills. In the long run, that will serve you better than trying to cozy up to a particular group for some imagined benefit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just White does not equate to diversity. I would love people other than white people to come to DC.

Well, they aren’t, are they? Wonder if being overlooked or ignored has anything to do with that? Or wanting a functional public school system?

Hispanics and non-white Hispanics are, so I’m not sure what you mean by they aren’t coming. I am just from an area where there are whites, non-white hispanic people, Asian, black, middle eastern, etc.

And they are not overlooked. I’m not sure why it would be hard for you to get why most whites wouldn’t be the focus (in education) in a world where having light skin is a privilege.

And please do not act like having money is not a privilege either, regardless of ethnicity. DC focuses on black then hispanic because of the poverty and lack of opportunities many experience.
If you’ve ever felt you have been overlooked simply due to whiteness that is only a fraction of what POC can feel all their lives.

If this conversation had been framed in a way that was not focused on whiteness but focusing on opportunities and public options for families aren’t below the poverty line, I would have agreed with the thread. We should want to keep all families here and have children interact with each other no matter the SES. However, when whiteness is the main concern I can only look upon that disdainfully and see the innate prejudices some of you have.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just White does not equate to diversity. I would love people other than white people to come to DC.

100%

Diversity would help not only kids but grownups as well. I say that as someone who grewup with diversity, it opens your minds and hearts in so many ways.

[Anonymous]

*grew up without diversity

[Anonymous]

Our HRCS is diverse and looks similar to what it looked like pre-Covid. I haven’t noticed any significant changes or much less white families with white flight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Folks I know who left left because of crime not schools. Once you have kids that stuff doesn’t roll off your back so easily anymore, and if you can change your circumstances you do.

Bingo! The crime has gotten so much worse in the city in the last four years. It's in all 8 wards and it's impossible to ignore with a child over the age of 10.

[Anonymous]

Yes. We moved out of the city for many reasons, schools being one of them. However, it was mainly the crime and lack of quality of life for our family and children. We have been in the suburbs for a year and our life is so much better, safer and amenable to kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Crime is too high in DC now. You can't safely raise kids in most of the city. The more flight the more crime.

It's so low compared to a decade or two ago. It's hard for me to imagine that it's a real problem even if it's up YoY.

[Anonymous]

What's the reason for recent year increase in crime? What can be done to improve it? Its not like suburbs are too far and unreachable, its increasing there as well and may spread more.

[Anonymous]

I think its part COVID, part incompetent governing and part irresponsible parenting.

[Anonymous]

Individual not having morals is on their own, its not like every poor person accepts crime as a way of life, they sacrifice more, live on less, work hard and improve their situation because they may not have money but they have morals, empathy and basic kindness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Crime is too high in DC now. You can't safely raise kids in most of the city. The more flight the more crime.

It's so low compared to a decade or two ago. It's hard for me to imagine that it's a real problem even if it's up YoY.

WHAT? THere are more than twice as many murders now as 10 years ago. In fact we are now back to being worse than 20 years ago when DC was still coming out of it's crack smoking mayor phase