TJ admissions results out?

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Anonymous wrote:TJ has to save those students, otherwise it is announcing the failure of their ridiculous admission reform.

DC tells me it's the same this year as any other year. I t think this is just C4TJ propaganda like their free meals hoax.

You show up again!

Tell us what data FCPS have to override the FARMS question in the application.

Put up or shut up.

Repeating a lie without evidence does not make it the truth. Unless you subscribe to Trumpian approach. But nothing is beyond you

So what data does FCPS have on applicants’ income. Tell us.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

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Please tell us what information does FCPS have to override the response to the FARMS question in the application.

Deal in facts, please not hyperbole.

I am a DP and I repeat.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

You seem very invested in whether they can verify low-income or not.

Why are you afraid of a valid question? The worst part of the application process is its lack of transparency. Just like college admissions…basically a holistic approach means we admit who the hell we fell like it within the weak parameters

I’ll take that as a yes.

Shouldn’t have lied.

DP, but at least for me, it's a different concern. Our child answered no to both questions and we fear that they were at a disadvantage by failing to earn experience points which many well-off families earned by answering yes. We have not been given any assurances that the TJ admissions office has done any verification of FARMS status, and it is thus reasonable to believe that they may have awarded experience points to anyone who answered yes without any verification.

Anyone try asking the board whether they verify they meal answers?

They don’t want to answer. They let their minions like the PP above fight the battle for the narrative. Accepting that the data was suspect would take away from their touted achievement of seating the most economically diverse class in the history of the school. Noble intent but botched implementation but the political class will take whatever credit they can take- even if it is highly suspect.

For the record, parents have followed up with individual schools where they have access to real school staff - and the staff has confirmed that they have no access to any income data for enrolled families. So there is that.

[Anonymous]

Students placed in the waitpool are considered for offers of admission if there are spots available. Students offered admissions have until Friday, May 27th to accept the offer of admission (this is the same date waitpool students must accept/decline the offer to stay in the waitpool). After students decline the offer, we identify whether the open spot is allocated (public school only) or unallocated.

Allocated spots will be filled with waitpool students from the individual school. If there are no remaining waitpool students at the school the allocated spot becomes an unallocated spot and is open to all students in the waitpool. Unallocated spots are offered to the waitpool students with the strongest evaluated application.

Did I get it correctly that if anybody declines the offer another student from the same school from WL will get an offer? If nobody is from the same school then they choose from the whole WL?

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I wonder what the second question is actually asking. What consistututes currently receiving meals? That you picked up the free meal once this school year? You pick them up one or more times a week?

Only answer yes, if you are filling out the form in the school cafeteria at lunchtime.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ has to save those students, otherwise it is announcing the failure of their ridiculous admission reform.

DC tells me it's the same this year as any other year. I t think this is just C4TJ propaganda like their free meals hoax.

You show up again!

Tell us what data FCPS have to override the FARMS question in the application.

Put up or shut up.

Repeating a lie without evidence does not make it the truth. Unless you subscribe to Trumpian approach. But nothing is beyond you

So what data does FCPS have on applicants’ income. Tell us.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

I repeat

Please tell us what information does FCPS have to override the response to the FARMS question in the application.

Deal in facts, please not hyperbole.

I am a DP and I repeat.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

You seem very invested in whether they can verify low-income or not.

Why are you afraid of a valid question? The worst part of the application process is its lack of transparency. Just like college admissions…basically a holistic approach means we admit who the hell we fell like it within the weak parameters

I’ll take that as a yes.

Shouldn’t have lied.

DP, but at least for me, it's a different concern. Our child answered no to both questions and we fear that they were at a disadvantage by failing to earn experience points which many well-off families earned by answering yes. We have not been given any assurances that the TJ admissions office has done any verification of FARMS status, and it is thus reasonable to believe that they may have awarded experience points to anyone who answered yes without any verification.

Anyone try asking the board whether they verify they meal answers?

They don’t want to answer. They let their minions like the PP above fight the battle for the narrative. Accepting that the data was suspect would take away from their touted achievement of seating the most economically diverse class in the history of the school. Noble intent but botched implementation but the political class will take whatever credit they can take- even if it is highly suspect.

For the record, parents have followed up with individual schools where they have access to real school staff - and the staff has confirmed that they have no access to any income data for enrolled families. So there is that.

This was already debunked. THey have the info for anyone who attends public.

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It wouldn’t matter if the PP lied. FCPS checks their own system to see if a kid qualifies for free lunch. Stop with the lunch conspiracy.

Someone posted on this forum that they called and asked TJ Admissions Office, and was told they could answer 'yes'.

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Anonymous wrote:Loudoun Parents..

What benefit does TJ provide that justifies our kids needing to wake up at or before 6AM? To ride the bus for an hour

Why should Loudoun kids go to TJ .. instead of our already strong schools

You do not have to wake up at 6AM. I asked someone going to TJ, and the bus was much later than I expected him to say, I think 7:30.

TJ's math classes are more advanced. If you go to AOS, you do not get calculus until 11th, with maybe some topics covered in 10th. Non-AOS, you can get calculus in 10th. This is less an issue in future years, as LCPS has severely reduced its 6th grade algebra and hence its 8th grade algebra 2/trigonometry.

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Anonymous wrote:These top kids from these top middle schools have worked a lot and been involved in lot of STEM ECs and disappointed for not getting in due to per school quota. Hope you do the right thing.

They do not have a maximum quota per school.

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Anonymous wrote: Thought I would drop in since my kid got into TJ this year. But wow- this board and others related to TJ are filled with some really opinionated folks. Adios. Have a good life ( ur kids will do better than u, I promise)

The really opinionated folks here are horrible LWNJs who back the LWNJ school board and Brabrand - the very people who created this disaster in the first place.

Remember how horrible these people are when it comes time to vote in a new school board (the current single-party board is horrible).

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Anonymous wrote:My son who is smarter than my other DC who attends TJ didnt get accepted. He is a geek.

Do you know any others that got in from your MS? Would you say your son is more qualified than they are?

I dont know any from his school. Yes I can say that with conviction my son is more qualified. I dont want to list his achievememts here if I do if someone from his school is reading they will know who I am talking about.

Maybe they didn't like his essay. Is he in private school?

Yes could be his english is weak. He is stem focused not really interested in reading. not in private.

IDK. My kid got in with a B+ in standard (not HN) English in both 7th and 8th. Dyslexic with an IEP. No real STEM ECs— unless you count his Minecraft addiction. I was surprised he got in. Especially since he is taking Algebra I in 8th, with a B first semester. Then again, he should have gotten “experience points” for the learning disorder.

I’m excited for him. I had always thought the dyslexia would be a deal killer.

I guess he got in under the new 1.5% / school from an under represented school and met the minimum requirements GPA 3.5. If you and your child are surprised he got in, you have a serious decision to make. It is going to be very competitive and stressful and some kids can go into depression not being able to handle the load and pressure. If he can handle those to come in par with other top students, accept it else give this opportunity to other deserving GPA 4 students so a top kid from Longfellow or Carson can make it. These top kids from these top middle schools have worked a lot and been involved in lot of STEM ECs and disappointed for not getting in due to per school quota. Hope you do the right thing.

Different poster: calm yourself. Don’t guilt someone into giving up a spot because YOU think your kid is more Deserving.

Omg..I am happy for the kid with dyslexia! But unless TJ now has a slew of crazy resources and/or this student is a minority, TJ is not structured to handle it. Is it possible? 100 percent but only with a parent that is willing to battle beg and plead every step of the way to hep their child obtain every gosh darn resource, tutor and extra help the child deserves. Obviously not the way it should be, but I am dealing with reality.

I agree it won't be easy for this kid and could drop out of TJ within 1 or 2 months. Last year there were 18 kids who dropped out and actual TJ class of 2025 was 529 not 550 because 9 of them took offer but later went to base school so didn't even start at TJ. It is better to realize early than let a kid go to TJ because it sounds cool and let him struggle and then dropout. I would suggest this parent to go to the TJ info session tomorrow and have a serious discussion with teachers and current students and then decide

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I agree it won't be easy for this kid and could drop out of TJ within 1 or 2 months. Last year there were 18 kids who dropped out and actual TJ class of 2025 was 529 not 550 because 9 of them took offer but later went to base school so didn't even start at TJ. It is better to realize early than let a kid go to TJ because it sounds cool and let him struggle and then dropout. I would suggest this parent to go to the TJ info session tomorrow and have a serious discussion with teachers and current students and then decide

529 (class size) +9 (dropped out after accepting)=538. What happened to the remaining 12 spots? Did they reduce the class size?

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I agree it won't be easy for this kid and could drop out of TJ within 1 or 2 months. Last year there were 18 kids who dropped out and actual TJ class of 2025 was 529 not 550 because 9 of them took offer but later went to base school so didn't even start at TJ. It is better to realize early than let a kid go to TJ because it sounds cool and let him struggle and then dropout. I would suggest this parent to go to the TJ info session tomorrow and have a serious discussion with teachers and current students and then decide

529 (class size) +9 (dropped out after accepting)=538. What happened to the remaining 12 spots? Did they reduce the class size?

TJ has never fully filled the class. They have avoided going to the waitlist as much as possible. I would not be surprised if they worked behind the scenes to get the class size lowered. They did not want to fill the class from the waitlist.

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Anonymous wrote:My son who is smarter than my other DC who attends TJ didnt get accepted. He is a geek.

Do you know any others that got in from your MS? Would you say your son is more qualified than they are?

I dont know any from his school. Yes I can say that with conviction my son is more qualified. I dont want to list his achievememts here if I do if someone from his school is reading they will know who I am talking about.

Maybe they didn't like his essay. Is he in private school?

Yes could be his english is weak. He is stem focused not really interested in reading. not in private.

IDK. My kid got in with a B+ in standard (not HN) English in both 7th and 8th. Dyslexic with an IEP. No real STEM ECs— unless you count his Minecraft addiction. I was surprised he got in. Especially since he is taking Algebra I in 8th, with a B first semester. Then again, he should have gotten “experience points” for the learning disorder.

I’m excited for him. I had always thought the dyslexia would be a deal killer.

I guess he got in under the new 1.5% / school from an under represented school and met the minimum requirements GPA 3.5. If you and your child are surprised he got in, you have a serious decision to make. It is going to be very competitive and stressful and some kids can go into depression not being able to handle the load and pressure. If he can handle those to come in par with other top students, accept it else give this opportunity to other deserving GPA 4 students so a top kid from Longfellow or Carson can make it. These top kids from these top middle schools have worked a lot and been involved in lot of STEM ECs and disappointed for not getting in due to per school quota. Hope you do the right thing.

Different poster: calm yourself. Don’t guilt someone into giving up a spot because YOU think your kid is more Deserving.

Omg..I am happy for the kid with dyslexia! But unless TJ now has a slew of crazy resources and/or this student is a minority, TJ is not structured to handle it. Is it possible? 100 percent but only with a parent that is willing to battle beg and plead every step of the way to hep their child obtain every gosh darn resource, tutor and extra help the child deserves. Obviously not the way it should be, but I am dealing with reality.

I agree it won't be easy for this kid and could drop out of TJ within 1 or 2 months. Last year there were 18 kids who dropped out and actual TJ class of 2025 was 529 not 550 because 9 of them took offer but later went to base school so didn't even start at TJ. It is better to realize early than let a kid go to TJ because it sounds cool and let him struggle and then dropout. I would suggest this parent to go to the TJ info session tomorrow and have a serious discussion with teachers and current students and then decide

Wasn’t the original discussion with the public that they would pull from the waitlist until the end of the 1st Quarter?

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Anonymous wrote:Debating the admissions policy is pointless. There are people who feel that as TJ is a Governor's school, its role is to serve the students who are so academically advanced that their needs can't be met in the base school. There are also people who feel like TJ should serve any kid who is slightly above average and claims to like STEM. The sides are never going to see eye to eye.

I feel sorry for the kids who truly needed a school like TJ and now will be bored out of their minds and under-served at their base school. I also feel sorry for the *many* kids who aren't ready for a rigorous school like TJ and may be eaten alive. I hope TJ does everything they can to help those kids, because it's not the kids' faults that they were used as political tools.

Of course, the former are right about the charter of a Governor's School, and the latter are misguided.

https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/governors_school_programs/

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The new policy has one thing in mind - diversity (by race). TJ is an entirely different school now.

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Hopefully TJ can go back to the original TJ starting from next year.

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Hope not. Then it will be back to the 3 feeder schools hogging all the seats.