TJ admissions results out?

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Anonymous wrote:My son who is smarter than my other DC who attends TJ didnt get accepted. He is a geek.

Do you know any others that got in from your MS? Would you say your son is more qualified than they are?

I dont know any from his school. Yes I can say that with conviction my son is more qualified. I dont want to list his achievememts here if I do if someone from his school is reading they will know who I am talking about.

Maybe they didn't like his essay. Is he in private school?

Yes could be his english is weak. He is stem focused not really interested in reading. not in private.

IDK. My kid got in with a B+ in standard (not HN) English in both 7th and 8th. Dyslexic with an IEP. No real STEM ECs— unless you count his Minecraft addiction. I was surprised he got in. Especially since he is taking Algebra I in 8th, with a B first semester. Then again, he should have gotten “experience points” for the learning disorder.

I’m excited for him. I had always thought the dyslexia would be a deal killer.

I guess he got in under the new 1.5% / school from an under represented school and met the minimum requirements GPA 3.5. If you and your child are surprised he got in, you have a serious decision to make. It is going to be very competitive and stressful and some kids can go into depression not being able to handle the load and pressure. If he can handle those to come in par with other top students, accept it else give this opportunity to other deserving GPA 4 students so a top kid from Longfellow or Carson can make it. These top kids from these top middle schools have worked a lot and been involved in lot of STEM ECs and disappointed for not getting in due to per school quota. Hope you do the right thing.

Different poster: calm yourself. Don’t guilt someone into giving up a spot because YOU think your kid is more Deserving.

Omg..I am happy for the kid with dyslexia! But unless TJ now has a slew of crazy resources and/or this student is a minority, TJ is not structured to handle it. Is it possible? 100 percent but only with a parent that is willing to battle beg and plead every step of the way to hep their child obtain every gosh darn resource, tutor and extra help the child deserves. Obviously not the way it should be, but I am dealing with reality.

+1 This student will struggle. If they are fine with that and a lower GPA than if they were at their base HS (bottom of the TJ class), so be it. Just go into it with open eyes and know it will not be easy and could be a very frustrating experience.

This sounds pretty ableist to me. I really hope people don’t ignorantly decide that having dyslexia or another disability means they can’t be successful at TJ. I have a 2E kid at TJ who is doing fine. The only B’s my kid has are from the few teachers who wouldn’t follow the 504. Most TJ teachers did and kid has A’s, including all AP and post-AP classes.
Maybe the kid wasn’t being accommodated and dyslexia causes the grade drop. I don’t know. Could be a troll just to upset people who think their kid isn’t getting in to someone “less deserving” with a disability who “can’t handle it”. My kid has certainly had to deal with parents and teachers like that.

I am so happy to hear this!

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Anonymous wrote:TJ has to save those students, otherwise it is announcing the failure of their ridiculous admission reform.

DC tells me it's the same this year as any other year. I t think this is just C4TJ propaganda like their free meals hoax.

You show up again!

Tell us what data FCPS have to override the FARMS question in the application.

Put up or shut up.

Repeating a lie without evidence does not make it the truth. Unless you subscribe to Trumpian approach. But nothing is beyond you

So what data does FCPS have on applicants’ income. Tell us.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

I repeat

Please tell us what information does FCPS have to override the response to the FARMS question in the application.

Deal in facts, please not hyperbole.

I am a DP and I repeat.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

You seem very invested in whether they can verify low-income or not.

Why are you afraid of a valid question? The worst part of the application process is its lack of transparency. Just like college admissions…basically a holistic approach means we admit who the hell we fell like it within the weak parameters

I’ll take that as a yes.

Shouldn’t have lied.

Not a shred of data to support the claim that FCPS has valid income data outside of the FARMS question. Nothing. Nada. You may think you won an anonymous internet debate by deflecting the question but remember all this is still up for the court’s review.

The entire claim that the new process admitted more socio-economically diverse students is bogus. 💄 on a 🐷

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Anonymous wrote:TJ has to save those students, otherwise it is announcing the failure of their ridiculous admission reform.

DC tells me it's the same this year as any other year. I t think this is just C4TJ propaganda like their free meals hoax.

You show up again!

Tell us what data FCPS have to override the FARMS question in the application.

Put up or shut up.

Repeating a lie without evidence does not make it the truth. Unless you subscribe to Trumpian approach. But nothing is beyond you

So what data does FCPS have on applicants’ income. Tell us.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

I repeat

Please tell us what information does FCPS have to override the response to the FARMS question in the application.

Deal in facts, please not hyperbole.

I am a DP and I repeat.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

You seem very invested in whether they can verify low-income or not.

Why are you afraid of a valid question? The worst part of the application process is its lack of transparency. Just like college admissions…basically a holistic approach means we admit who the hell we fell like it within the weak parameters

I’ll take that as a yes.

Shouldn’t have lied.

Not a shred of data to support the claim that FCPS has valid income data outside of the FARMS question. Nothing. Nada. You may think you won an anonymous internet debate by deflecting the question but remember all this is still up for the court’s review.

The entire claim that the new process admitted more socio-economically diverse students is bogus. 💄 on a 🐷

I didn’t make that claim. Ask that PP.

You shouldn’t have lied on the application.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ has to save those students, otherwise it is announcing the failure of their ridiculous admission reform.

DC tells me it's the same this year as any other year. I t think this is just C4TJ propaganda like their free meals hoax.

You show up again!

Tell us what data FCPS have to override the FARMS question in the application.

Put up or shut up.

Repeating a lie without evidence does not make it the truth. Unless you subscribe to Trumpian approach. But nothing is beyond you

So what data does FCPS have on applicants’ income. Tell us.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

I repeat

Please tell us what information does FCPS have to override the response to the FARMS question in the application.

Deal in facts, please not hyperbole.

I am a DP and I repeat.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

You seem very invested in whether they can verify low-income or not.

Why are you afraid of a valid question? The worst part of the application process is its lack of transparency. Just like college admissions…basically a holistic approach means we admit who the hell we fell like it within the weak parameters

I’ll take that as a yes.

Shouldn’t have lied.

Not a shred of data to support the claim that FCPS has valid income data outside of the FARMS question. Nothing. Nada. You may think you won an anonymous internet debate by deflecting the question but remember all this is still up for the court’s review.

The entire claim that the new process admitted more socio-economically diverse students is bogus. 💄 on a 🐷

I didn’t make that claim. Ask that PP.

You shouldn’t have lied on the application.

Sorry to disappoint you. I have no pony in this race. I would welcome comprehensive scrutiny of the entire process and the claim that somehow the new process admitted a significantly more socio-economic class. It did not because there is no data to support that.

Now seems like you are unable to answer the question to support your claim that FCPS has income information beyond the response to the poorly worded FARMS question.

Worry less about me lying and answer the question (you probably also claim that Trump won the election - because repeating a lie in the absence of supporting data makes it the truth).

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Anonymous wrote:TJ has to save those students, otherwise it is announcing the failure of their ridiculous admission reform.

DC tells me it's the same this year as any other year. I t think this is just C4TJ propaganda like their free meals hoax.

You show up again!

Tell us what data FCPS have to override the FARMS question in the application.

Put up or shut up.

Repeating a lie without evidence does not make it the truth. Unless you subscribe to Trumpian approach. But nothing is beyond you

So what data does FCPS have on applicants’ income. Tell us.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

I repeat

Please tell us what information does FCPS have to override the response to the FARMS question in the application.

Deal in facts, please not hyperbole.

I am a DP and I repeat.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

You seem very invested in whether they can verify low-income or not.

Why are you afraid of a valid question? The worst part of the application process is its lack of transparency. Just like college admissions…basically a holistic approach means we admit who the hell we fell like it within the weak parameters

I’ll take that as a yes.

Shouldn’t have lied.

Not a shred of data to support the claim that FCPS has valid income data outside of the FARMS question. Nothing. Nada. You may think you won an anonymous internet debate by deflecting the question but remember all this is still up for the court’s review.

The entire claim that the new process admitted more socio-economically diverse students is bogus. 💄 on a 🐷

I didn’t make that claim. Ask that PP.

You shouldn’t have lied on the application.

Sorry to disappoint you. I have no pony in this race. I would welcome comprehensive scrutiny of the entire process and the claim that somehow the new process admitted a significantly more socio-economic class. It did not because there is no data to support that.

Now seems like you are unable to answer the question to support your claim that FCPS has income information beyond the response to the poorly worded FARMS question.

Worry less about me lying and answer the question (you probably also claim that Trump won the election - because repeating a lie in the absence of supporting data makes it the truth).

Sorry your reading comprehension sucks. I didn’t make the claim.

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My kid does activities that he enjoys, Scouts, sports, math competitions, because he likes them. If they help him get into a school like TJ, awesome. If they don't but he enjoyed them while he was doing them, great. TJ or an amazing college down the line, would be a wonderful bonus. But he is doing what he is doing because he enjoys it and it is a part of who he is as a person not because he is trying to build a resume.

Why are you even opining on the TJ threads when your kid is only a 4th grader? You have zero understanding of what it takes to excel in 7th and 8th grade STEM extracurriculars, just how much students can push themselves and avail themselves of resources, and what it even means when some of these kids are qualifying for JMO in 8th, making Mathcounts nationals top 12 in 8th, or winning national Science Olympiad awards. You don't have experience in middle school AAP coursework, middle school math tracks, or much of anything in FCPS middle schools. You're embarrassing yourself by even thinking that you have anything valuable to contribute in these threads.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I feel very sad for those AAP center school students. They are the victims of the politics. Vote for republicans. Democratic is destroying this country and our kids.

Can you show me how Republicans have made education better anywhere in the country?

THey helped stop teaching kids about CRT! Ooops they never taught them about that. I think they mainly advocate for sugar coating history if that helps?

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Anonymous wrote:My son who is smarter than my other DC who attends TJ didnt get accepted. He is a geek.

Do you know any others that got in from your MS? Would you say your son is more qualified than they are?

I dont know any from his school. Yes I can say that with conviction my son is more qualified. I dont want to list his achievememts here if I do if someone from his school is reading they will know who I am talking about.

Maybe they didn't like his essay. Is he in private school?

Yes could be his english is weak. He is stem focused not really interested in reading. not in private.

IDK. My kid got in with a B+ in standard (not HN) English in both 7th and 8th. Dyslexic with an IEP. No real STEM ECs— unless you count his Minecraft addiction. I was surprised he got in. Especially since he is taking Algebra I in 8th, with a B first semester. Then again, he should have gotten “experience points” for the learning disorder.

I’m excited for him. I had always thought the dyslexia would be a deal killer.

I guess he got in under the new 1.5% / school from an under represented school and met the minimum requirements GPA 3.5. If you and your child are surprised he got in, you have a serious decision to make. It is going to be very competitive and stressful and some kids can go into depression not being able to handle the load and pressure. If he can handle those to come in par with other top students, accept it else give this opportunity to other deserving GPA 4 students so a top kid from Longfellow or Carson can make it. These top kids from these top middle schools have worked a lot and been involved in lot of STEM ECs and disappointed for not getting in due to per school quota. Hope you do the right thing.

it's C4TJ fiction

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My kid does activities that he enjoys, Scouts, sports, math competitions, because he likes them. If they help him get into a school like TJ, awesome. If they don't but he enjoyed them while he was doing them, great. TJ or an amazing college down the line, would be a wonderful bonus. But he is doing what he is doing because he enjoys it and it is a part of who he is as a person not because he is trying to build a resume.

Why are you even opining on the TJ threads when your kid is only a 4th grader? You have zero understanding of what it takes to excel in 7th and 8th grade STEM extracurriculars, just how much students can push themselves and avail themselves of resources, and what it even means when some of these kids are qualifying for JMO in 8th, making Mathcounts nationals top 12 in 8th, or winning national Science Olympiad awards. You don't have experience in middle school AAP coursework, middle school math tracks, or much of anything in FCPS middle schools. You're embarrassing yourself by even thinking that you have anything valuable to contribute in these threads.

Are the only people allowed to have opinion people who you think are allowed to have opinions?

No. The only people allowed to have opinions are those who have the faintest clue what they're talking about. PP is like someone with a 5 year old in rec league sports who is insisting that she has no interest in middle school travel league, but will spout out at any opportunity about how travel league should work. It's truly embarrassing.

It should be pretty telling that one of the largest proponents of the new system who feels the need to fill every thread with her opinions has an oldest child who is a 4th grader and isn't particularly interested in TJ.

I suppose I could discuss my nieces and nephews, who range from 4-25, or my kids friends or the kids I know from programs I volunteer with or the hundreds of adults I taught at the University. I can’t talk to their personal motivations for their activities of choice since I don’t have the same experience with them as I do my own kid.

Maybe you should realize that plenty of people have a good idea about the motivation of kids and parents even if their exact child is not in 8th grade.

It is possible to appreciate the hard work and effort that kids at the top of their peer group is in school or in extra curricular activities AND see that there is a good reason to make a public magnet school available to kids from across the entire county regardless of their ability to participate in extra curricular activities. Not every child, even smart ones who are capable of doing well at TJ, has the same ability to access activities outside of school. Or have the money to afford activities. Or have the time to participate.

I think that having admissions to a public magnet school based on a set of classes that are available to all students in the County is fair. I think that the math requirement should be higher, I think the kids should have completed Geometry.

I would love for there to be a second school like TJ. I would love for their to be an Arts equivalent to TJ in the County. I think that there are a lot of kids who would benefit from such programs.

But I don’t think that it is fair to effectively bar kids from entry to TJ because they have not had the knowledge of, time, or money to participate in extra curricular activities. I would hope that the highly motivated kids who are excelling in such programs are gaining from their participation even if they don’t attend TJ.

I also know, from my time teaching College students, that these kids are likely to do great in College even if they attend their base school. It is a shame that they will not gain from the special classes and programs at a school like TJ but they have the skills and motivation to do well without those classes.

But you can happily brush aside my opinion because my kid is younger and we are not focused on TJ at the moment. Clearly I am not in a position to understand what is at stake.

Can I brush aside your opinion because you randomly capitalize words that shouldn’t be capitalized?

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Anonymous wrote:Debating the admissions policy is pointless. There are people who feel that as TJ is a Governor's school, its role is to serve the students who are so academically advanced that their needs can't be met in the base school. There are also people who feel like TJ should serve any kid who is slightly above average and claims to like STEM. The sides are never going to see eye to eye.

I feel sorry for the kids who truly needed a school like TJ and now will be bored out of their minds and under-served at their base school. I also feel sorry for the *many* kids who aren't ready for a rigorous school like TJ and may be eaten alive. I hope TJ does everything they can to help those kids, because it's not the kids' faults that they were used as political tools.

Of course, the former are right about the charter of a Governor's School, and the latter are misguided.

https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/governors_school_programs/

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Anonymous wrote:TJ has to save those students, otherwise it is announcing the failure of their ridiculous admission reform.

DC tells me it's the same this year as any other year. I t think this is just C4TJ propaganda like their free meals hoax.

You show up again!

Tell us what data FCPS have to override the FARMS question in the application.

Put up or shut up.

Repeating a lie without evidence does not make it the truth. Unless you subscribe to Trumpian approach. But nothing is beyond you

So what data does FCPS have on applicants’ income. Tell us.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

I repeat

Please tell us what information does FCPS have to override the response to the FARMS question in the application.

Deal in facts, please not hyperbole.

I am a DP and I repeat.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

You seem very invested in whether they can verify low-income or not.

Why are you afraid of a valid question? The worst part of the application process is its lack of transparency. Just like college admissions…basically a holistic approach means we admit who the hell we fell like it within the weak parameters

I’ll take that as a yes.

Shouldn’t have lied.

DP, but at least for me, it's a different concern. Our child answered no to both questions and we fear that they were at a disadvantage by failing to earn experience points which many well-off families earned by answering yes. We have not been given any assurances that the TJ admissions office has done any verification of FARMS status, and it is thus reasonable to believe that they may have awarded experience points to anyone who answered yes without any verification.

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Anonymous wrote:TJ has to save those students, otherwise it is announcing the failure of their ridiculous admission reform.

DC tells me it's the same this year as any other year. I t think this is just C4TJ propaganda like their free meals hoax.

You show up again!

Tell us what data FCPS have to override the FARMS question in the application.

Put up or shut up.

Repeating a lie without evidence does not make it the truth. Unless you subscribe to Trumpian approach. But nothing is beyond you

So what data does FCPS have on applicants’ income. Tell us.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

I repeat

Please tell us what information does FCPS have to override the response to the FARMS question in the application.

Deal in facts, please not hyperbole.

I am a DP and I repeat.

Oh no. Are you afraid you’re going to get caught lying?

You seem very invested in whether they can verify low-income or not.

Why are you afraid of a valid question? The worst part of the application process is its lack of transparency. Just like college admissions…basically a holistic approach means we admit who the hell we fell like it within the weak parameters

I’ll take that as a yes.

Shouldn’t have lied.

DP, but at least for me, it's a different concern. Our child answered no to both questions and we fear that they were at a disadvantage by failing to earn experience points which many well-off families earned by answering yes. We have not been given any assurances that the TJ admissions office has done any verification of FARMS status, and it is thus reasonable to believe that they may have awarded experience points to anyone who answered yes without any verification.

Anyone try asking the board whether they verify they meal answers?

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Anonymous wrote:My son who is smarter than my other DC who attends TJ didnt get accepted. He is a geek.

Do you know any others that got in from your MS? Would you say your son is more qualified than they are?

I dont know any from his school. Yes I can say that with conviction my son is more qualified. I dont want to list his achievememts here if I do if someone from his school is reading they will know who I am talking about.

Maybe they didn't like his essay. Is he in private school?

Yes could be his english is weak. He is stem focused not really interested in reading. not in private.

IDK. My kid got in with a B+ in standard (not HN) English in both 7th and 8th. Dyslexic with an IEP. No real STEM ECs— unless you count his Minecraft addiction. I was surprised he got in. Especially since he is taking Algebra I in 8th, with a B first semester. Then again, he should have gotten “experience points” for the learning disorder.

I’m excited for him. I had always thought the dyslexia would be a deal killer.

I guess he got in under the new 1.5% / school from an under represented school and met the minimum requirements GPA 3.5. If you and your child are surprised he got in, you have a serious decision to make. It is going to be very competitive and stressful and some kids can go into depression not being able to handle the load and pressure. If he can handle those to come in par with other top students, accept it else give this opportunity to other deserving GPA 4 students so a top kid from Longfellow or Carson can make it. These top kids from these top middle schools have worked a lot and been involved in lot of STEM ECs and disappointed for not getting in due to per school quota. Hope you do the right thing.

Different poster: calm yourself. Don’t guilt someone into giving up a spot because YOU think your kid is more Deserving.

Omg..I am happy for the kid with dyslexia! But unless TJ now has a slew of crazy resources and/or this student is a minority, TJ is not structured to handle it. Is it possible? 100 percent but only with a parent that is willing to battle beg and plead every step of the way to hep their child obtain every gosh darn resource, tutor and extra help the child deserves. Obviously not the way it should be, but I am dealing with reality.

+1 This student will struggle. If they are fine with that and a lower GPA than if they were at their base HS (bottom of the TJ class), so be it. Just go into it with open eyes and know it will not be easy and could be a very frustrating experience.

This sounds pretty ableist to me. I really hope people don’t ignorantly decide that having dyslexia or another disability means they can’t be successful at TJ. I have a 2E kid at TJ who is doing fine. The only B’s my kid has are from the few teachers who wouldn’t follow the 504. Most TJ teachers did and kid has A’s, including all AP and post-AP classes.
Maybe the kid wasn’t being accommodated and dyslexia causes the grade drop. I don’t know. Could be a troll just to upset people who think their kid isn’t getting in to someone “less deserving” with a disability who “can’t handle it”. My kid has certainly had to deal with parents and teachers like that.

The reason I think this kid will struggle isn't the dyslexia. It's the B in 1st semester 8th grade Algebra. Kids who couldn't qualify for 7th grade Algebra and then couldn't get an A when taking it in 8th are likely to get eaten alive by the TJ math department.

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In my mind, the cut off on math should be Geometry HN. If the student is not taking Geometry HN in 8th grade, it’s almost sure this student is entering TJ to serve the bottom part. .

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Anonymous wrote:My son who is smarter than my other DC who attends TJ didnt get accepted. He is a geek.

Do you know any others that got in from your MS? Would you say your son is more qualified than they are?

I dont know any from his school. Yes I can say that with conviction my son is more qualified. I dont want to list his achievememts here if I do if someone from his school is reading they will know who I am talking about.

Maybe they didn't like his essay. Is he in private school?

Yes could be his english is weak. He is stem focused not really interested in reading. not in private.

IDK. My kid got in with a B+ in standard (not HN) English in both 7th and 8th. Dyslexic with an IEP. No real STEM ECs— unless you count his Minecraft addiction. I was surprised he got in. Especially since he is taking Algebra I in 8th, with a B first semester. Then again, he should have gotten “experience points” for the learning disorder.

I’m excited for him. I had always thought the dyslexia would be a deal killer.

I guess he got in under the new 1.5% / school from an under represented school and met the minimum requirements GPA 3.5. If you and your child are surprised he got in, you have a serious decision to make. It is going to be very competitive and stressful and some kids can go into depression not being able to handle the load and pressure. If he can handle those to come in par with other top students, accept it else give this opportunity to other deserving GPA 4 students so a top kid from Longfellow or Carson can make it. These top kids from these top middle schools have worked a lot and been involved in lot of STEM ECs and disappointed for not getting in due to per school quota. Hope you do the right thing.

it's C4TJ fiction

You know you sound like the boy in the cry wolf story? Once in a while you may be right but nobody believes you. Anything you don’t agree with C4TJ fiction or conspiracy. Come up with a rebuttal or stay out of conversations you don’t quite grasp.