ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The video proves that the ICE agent was struck by the victim’s vehicle. IMO, his actions were lawful. The disrespect the wife showed the agents and the victim’s refusal to follow orders may have led him to believe that the victim was trying to kill him when she stuck him with her vehicle. I don’t think she was trying to kill him, but she did hit him while driving away, and a reasonable officer could have feared for his life in the situation. This wasn’t some innocent mom, as posters are trying to portray her as. She and her wife were agitators who stalked, obstructed and then committed violence against federal agents.

He stepped into the vehicle ready to shoot. And if she "hit" him, he wouldn't have maintained control of the camera and have been able to accurately fire his weapon. It's an absurd take. Hopefully this video is enough to get it into Minnesota court.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow 2 out of state mentally unstable nut jobs chasing down ice and blocking them . Glad this video came out and shows their true colors.

Yes, we're all glad that this video came out. It definitively shows that Jonathan Ross is unstable and moved toward the vehicle ready to shoot.

He seemed pretty chill, the two women going nuts and disregarding police orders are the wacky ones. Definitely something wrong with them

Cool as a cucumber, got off three shots and still called her a f$cking bi!ch

Military training she was a b, hit him and tried to kill him. Most people would be more upset

Scale of 1-10, how hard will you cry when he goes to jail?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The video proves that the ICE agent was struck by the victim’s vehicle. IMO, his actions were lawful. The disrespect the wife showed the agents and the victim’s refusal to follow orders may have led him to believe that the victim was trying to kill him when she stuck him with her vehicle. I don’t think she was trying to kill him, but she did hit him while driving away, and a reasonable officer could have feared for his life in the situation. This wasn’t some innocent mom, as posters are trying to portray her as. She and her wife were agitators who stalked, obstructed and then committed violence against federal agents.

Lord, lmao.

These claims are getting more and more desperate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The video proves that the ICE agent was struck by the victim’s vehicle. IMO, his actions were lawful. The disrespect the wife showed the agents and the victim’s refusal to follow orders may have led him to believe that the victim was trying to kill him when she stuck him with her vehicle. I don’t think she was trying to kill him, but she did hit him while driving away, and a reasonable officer could have feared for his life in the situation. This wasn’t some innocent mom, as posters are trying to portray her as. She and her wife were agitators who stalked, obstructed and then committed violence against federal agents.

There’s no evidence she stalked or obstructed anyone. And refusal to follow orders does not justify deadly force.

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Anonymous wrote:Her wife was trying to get in the car and had her hand on the handle and the door partially open when the driver starts driving the car. She’s very lucky to not have gotten hurt and dragged under the car tires.

Why did the driver start driving when her wife was trying to get in the car?

I’m pretty sure the driver couldn’t see anything on the right side of her car. She was basically being attacked through the window by one of the ice agents she was trying to get away from him.

The agent to the left should be charged with accessory to murder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The video proves that the ICE agent was struck by the victim’s vehicle. IMO, his actions were lawful. The disrespect the wife showed the agents and the victim’s refusal to follow orders may have led him to believe that the victim was trying to kill him when she stuck him with her vehicle. I don’t think she was trying to kill him, but she did hit him while driving away, and a reasonable officer could have feared for his life in the situation. This wasn’t some innocent mom, as posters are trying to portray her as. She and her wife were agitators who stalked, obstructed and then committed violence against federal agents.

Nope, he pushed his cellphone hand toward a moving vehicle while shooting with his right. Video from other angles shows he was always clear of the vehicle and didn’t even loose his footing. Checks on the phone, too, never drops it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The video proves that the ICE agent was struck by the victim’s vehicle. IMO, his actions were lawful. The disrespect the wife showed the agents and the victim’s refusal to follow orders may have led him to believe that the victim was trying to kill him when she stuck him with her vehicle.

The video does not prove Ross was struck by a car. It shows a cell phone drops to the ground. That’s consistent with videos from another angle, showing that Ross crossed in front of the car, pulled out his gun and dropped his cell phone.

The video does not prove that the car struck Ross.

The video does prove that Ross circled the victims car and essentially strolled in front of her car, walking in the middle of the street

The video showed he was in as much danger from goods car, as I am, a teacher who walks in between cars at carpool duty every single day. By the way, I don’t do it with my cell phone in my hand.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Her wife was trying to get in the car and had her hand on the handle and the door partially open when the driver starts driving the car. She’s very lucky to not have gotten hurt and dragged under the car tires.

Why did the driver start driving when her wife was trying to get in the car?

I’m pretty sure the driver couldn’t see anything on the right side of her car. She was basically being attacked through the window by one of the ice agents she was trying to get away from him.

The agent to the left should be charged with accessory to murder.

+1.

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Anonymous wrote:The white house also posted it. Terrible judgment. My guess is all the people here haven't actually watched it; they're just saying it's justified because Vance and Trump claim the video say it's justified. horrible horrible judgment on their part. Makes Ross look worse

Keep telling yourself that. Every single person that sees this sees the truth. She tried to kill him.

Anyway it doesn't matter. There is no world where a dyke beats a straight white male LEO. None. Deal with it.

Can you point out where she tried to kill him? Aside, that talking point died out 75 pages ago. I think we're onto "he feared for his life" for some reason.

We are there because that is the legal standard for when the use of lethal force is justified. When a reasonable person under the circumstances would be in fear for his life.

There is no reasonable person who would fear for their life with respect to a car pulling out to the right.

His family has come out in his defense claiming he is a “committed Christian”, which pretty much confirms he is an unstable nutjob with a criminal mindset.

True Christians don’t need to tell the world they are Christians, they show it by their actions. And Thou.Shall.Not.Kill.

You just exposed yourself as NOT a Christian.

The commandment is: “Though Shall Not Murder.” Very different.

You are wrong PP. if it were broadly “kill” (it’s not), then none of us could ever serve in the military, public safety, etc.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Exodus-20-13/

"Thou shalt not kill."

No one believes your kooky Bible written by some carnival barker preacher-grifter in 1983.

[Anonymous]

Ice also escalated the situation. She seemed relaxed before they tried to rip her out of her car.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The video proves that the ICE agent was struck by the victim’s vehicle. IMO, his actions were lawful. The disrespect the wife showed the agents and the victim’s refusal to follow orders may have led him to believe that the victim was trying to kill him when she stuck him with her vehicle.

The video does not prove Ross was struck by a car. It shows a cell phone drops to the ground. That’s consistent with videos from another angle, showing that Ross crossed in front of the car, pulled out his gun and dropped his cell phone.

The video does not prove that the car struck Ross.

The video does prove that Ross circled the victims car and essentially strolled in front of her car, walking in the middle of the street

The video showed he was in as much danger from goods car, as I am, a teacher who walks in between cars at carpool duty every single day. By the way, I don’t do it with my cell phone in my hand.

It also proves that she was spinning the steering wheel to the right and pulling away.

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And before you say dropping the cell phone proves he was hit by the car, let me ask you this because I don’t actually know. Do you need one hand to shoot a gun or two? I think he dropped the cell phone so he could put both hands on his gun. Was there a point where he had a cell phone in one hand and a gun in the other? Fearing for his life as he said? Because that really doesn’t sound like legitimate law enforcement to me.

[Anonymous]

NEWS: The Hennepin County Attorney investigating the ICE agent who shot Renee Nicole Good confirms he does not have "complete immunity."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The video proves that the ICE agent was struck by the victim’s vehicle. IMO, his actions were lawful. The disrespect the wife showed the agents and the victim’s refusal to follow orders may have led him to believe that the victim was trying to kill him when she stuck him with her vehicle. I don’t think she was trying to kill him, but she did hit him while driving away, and a reasonable officer could have feared for his life in the situation. This wasn’t some innocent mom, as posters are trying to portray her as. She and her wife were agitators who stalked, obstructed and then committed violence against federal agents.

There’s no evidence she stalked or obstructed anyone. And refusal to follow orders does not justify deadly force.

She obstructed the agents by parking her car in the middle of the road, aiming to disrupt a federal law enforcement operation.

The wife admitted to the officers that they follow the agents around. That’s stalking.

They were very unpleasant individuals who believed they had the right to disrupt law enforcement operations.