Missing college student in the Dominican Republic from Ashburn

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't seem likely at this point that they will find her body so unfortunately the family is unlikely to get any closure.

It is so obvious to anyone NOT emotionally involved in this case that a college kid made a dumb decision and drowned. The footage of her puking at the bar is clear evidence of near blackout levels of intoxication. No one can swim in a rough ocean that drunk.

You could say that but the part of her or them going into the water still hasn't been confirmed, has it? Was it assumed she did because they found her bikini coverup on a beach chair? And based on the POI's stories?

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Anonymous wrote:I think people need to realize that nearly all parties involved (other than Ribe’s family) would like to see this blamed on foul play by Ribe.

It would make the girl’s family and friends feel better (this isn’t her fault, this isn’t the friends’ fault, it is HIS fault). Certainly the resort and the DR would like to see this pinned on him as well (DR is safe! This resort is safe! no fault of ours!). They don’t want any bad press, particularly considering their dependence on tourism.

Not saying Ribe couldn’t be guilty. Of course it is possible. But understand the circumstances of this at least.

This is starting to remind me of Amanda Knox situation where the police were convinced of who was guilty and weren’t going to listen to reason. And the media zeroed in on odd behavior of a POI (Amanda) and just declared she was guilty, with very bizarre allegations (cult ritual, threesome gone wrong, etc). people just making stuff up.

Yes bizarre allegations! He has changed his story, has had suspicions behaviour and LE is zeroing on him. Poor baby.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How soon after her going missing did her friends flee the DR?

Or could they have returned on their already scheduled flight back?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is someone who posts obsessively on this thread over and over accusing the boy of killing her, who is extremely invested in the girls names being withheld and extremely invested in the girls being completely exonerated and in her being murdered, not drowned. This person is an ESL speaker/writer with distinctive syntax. One of the Bad Friends is from Loudoun. I just think that's interesting.

Very interesting indeed! With "friends" like that, who needs enemies.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

Yes but I think posters think the friends could have made sure she was definitely not going on the excursion (someone said Venmo history was released and she had Venmo her friend for the outing). When they heard the young man had not returned (not sure if that part matches timeline), they could have assumed that she was still with him.

I cannot imagine a scenario in which I do not check in with my friend to confirm she’s OK when she has spent multiple hours with a man She has only just met especially when she’s paid a large sum to go on this excursion. Nothing flagged in her friends heads that something was odd or off that she was hooking up with some random guy And missing out on the excursion?

You? Me? Yes of course. But them? They are foolish college girls, presumably running on a few hours sleep and probably very hungover. And didn’t want to miss the excursion they paid for, either. Odds are they woke up not long before the scheduled pickup time (not leaving a lot of extra time to search for their friend) and assumed she was with him and probably sleeping for a hangover. They had her phone so they couldn’t check with her to confirm. So they decided to go on the excursion (rather than be out $) and assumed she’d be there when they returned.

🤷🏻‍♀️ sure, last we saw Sudiksha she was super drunk with the drunk dude what's-his-name, at the red flag beach, at 5am. Oh, and we have her phone. Let's text other drunk dude and then hurry to meet up with our day boat. Else we'll lose our $24 excursion deposit.

If they were responsible and of sound mind, they wouldn’t have left her in that situation in the first place. You really think anything would be different a few hours later?

For all we know, Sudiksha was the crazy friend who pulled sh!t like this all the time (wandering off with random guys etc). And would not listen to reason. Many of us had a friend like that in college. It may not have seemed particularly out of character.

Exactly the reason we should have heard much more from the girls, including one lifelong friend. They absolutely could have provided background info on Sudisksha that would be informative, if not helpful.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

Yes but I think posters think the friends could have made sure she was definitely not going on the excursion (someone said Venmo history was released and she had Venmo her friend for the outing). When they heard the young man had not returned (not sure if that part matches timeline), they could have assumed that she was still with him.

I cannot imagine a scenario in which I do not check in with my friend to confirm she’s OK when she has spent multiple hours with a man She has only just met especially when she’s paid a large sum to go on this excursion. Nothing flagged in her friends heads that something was odd or off that she was hooking up with some random guy And missing out on the excursion?

You? Me? Yes of course. But them? They are foolish college girls, presumably running on a few hours sleep and probably very hungover. And didn’t want to miss the excursion they paid for, either. Odds are they woke up not long before the scheduled pickup time (not leaving a lot of extra time to search for their friend) and assumed she was with him and probably sleeping for a hangover. They had her phone so they couldn’t check with her to confirm. So they decided to go on the excursion (rather than be out $) and assumed she’d be there when they returned.

🤷🏻‍♀️ sure, last we saw Sudiksha she was super drunk with the drunk dude what's-his-name, at the red flag beach, at 5am. Oh, and we have her phone. Let's text other drunk dude and then hurry to meet up with our day boat. Else we'll lose our $24 excursion deposit.

Well they left her out on that red flag beach, super drunk and with a strange guy, didn’t they?? Either they didn’t care (probably), or they tried to get her to come with them and she refused (which wouldn’t be all that surprising either). Given that info, they are likely to magically change into ultra responsible friends just a few hours later.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

Yes but I think posters think the friends could have made sure she was definitely not going on the excursion (someone said Venmo history was released and she had Venmo her friend for the outing). When they heard the young man had not returned (not sure if that part matches timeline), they could have assumed that she was still with him.

I cannot imagine a scenario in which I do not check in with my friend to confirm she’s OK when she has spent multiple hours with a man She has only just met especially when she’s paid a large sum to go on this excursion. Nothing flagged in her friends heads that something was odd or off that she was hooking up with some random guy And missing out on the excursion?

You? Me? Yes of course. But them? They are foolish college girls, presumably running on a few hours sleep and probably very hungover. And didn’t want to miss the excursion they paid for, either. Odds are they woke up not long before the scheduled pickup time (not leaving a lot of extra time to search for their friend) and assumed she was with him and probably sleeping for a hangover. They had her phone so they couldn’t check with her to confirm. So they decided to go on the excursion (rather than be out $) and assumed she’d be there when they returned.

🤷🏻‍♀️ sure, last we saw Sudiksha she was super drunk with the drunk dude what's-his-name, at the red flag beach, at 5am. Oh, and we have her phone. Let's text other drunk dude and then hurry to meet up with our day boat. Else we'll lose our $24 excursion deposit.

If they were responsible and of sound mind, they wouldn’t have left her in that situation in the first place. You really think anything would be different a few hours later?

For all we know, Sudiksha was the crazy friend who pulled sh!t like this all the time (wandering off with random guys etc). And would not listen to reason. Many of us had a friend like that in college. It may not have seemed particularly out of character.

Exactly the reason we should have heard much more from the girls, including one lifelong friend. They absolutely could have provided background info on Sudisksha that would be informative, if not helpful.

maybe they did provide that information.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

Yes but I think posters think the friends could have made sure she was definitely not going on the excursion (someone said Venmo history was released and she had Venmo her friend for the outing). When they heard the young man had not returned (not sure if that part matches timeline), they could have assumed that she was still with him.

I cannot imagine a scenario in which I do not check in with my friend to confirm she’s OK when she has spent multiple hours with a man She has only just met especially when she’s paid a large sum to go on this excursion. Nothing flagged in her friends heads that something was odd or off that she was hooking up with some random guy And missing out on the excursion?

You? Me? Yes of course. But them? They are foolish college girls, presumably running on a few hours sleep and probably very hungover. And didn’t want to miss the excursion they paid for, either. Odds are they woke up not long before the scheduled pickup time (not leaving a lot of extra time to search for their friend) and assumed she was with him and probably sleeping for a hangover. They had her phone so they couldn’t check with her to confirm. So they decided to go on the excursion (rather than be out $) and assumed she’d be there when they returned.

🤷🏻‍♀️ sure, last we saw Sudiksha she was super drunk with the drunk dude what's-his-name, at the red flag beach, at 5am. Oh, and we have her phone. Let's text other drunk dude and then hurry to meet up with our day boat. Else we'll lose our $24 excursion deposit.

If they were responsible and of sound mind, they wouldn’t have left her in that situation in the first place. You really think anything would be different a few hours later?

For all we know, Sudiksha was the crazy friend who pulled sh!t like this all the time (wandering off with random guys etc). And would not listen to reason. Many of us had a friend like that in college. It may not have seemed particularly out of character.

Exactly the reason we should have heard much more from the girls, including one lifelong friend. They absolutely could have provided background info on Sudisksha that would be informative, if not helpful.

maybe they did provide that information.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

Yes but I think posters think the friends could have made sure she was definitely not going on the excursion (someone said Venmo history was released and she had Venmo her friend for the outing). When they heard the young man had not returned (not sure if that part matches timeline), they could have assumed that she was still with him.

I cannot imagine a scenario in which I do not check in with my friend to confirm she’s OK when she has spent multiple hours with a man She has only just met especially when she’s paid a large sum to go on this excursion. Nothing flagged in her friends heads that something was odd or off that she was hooking up with some random guy And missing out on the excursion?

You? Me? Yes of course. But them? They are foolish college girls, presumably running on a few hours sleep and probably very hungover. And didn’t want to miss the excursion they paid for, either. Odds are they woke up not long before the scheduled pickup time (not leaving a lot of extra time to search for their friend) and assumed she was with him and probably sleeping for a hangover. They had her phone so they couldn’t check with her to confirm. So they decided to go on the excursion (rather than be out $) and assumed she’d be there when they returned.

Per Ribe, her friend texted Carter Johnson looking for her. Since Ribe was not back at that point, they and CJ likely believed they were together. When Ribe returned alone and heard that the girl he says he had not seen for hours had not returned, at 10am he at least knew she was missing. We don’t know what he told CJ since he did not answer that LE question. We know he did not communicate that to friends, resort or LE. Friends had to deduce she was missing when returned at 4.

Why? Who benefits from delayed search? What was in his pocket that was not a phone or key?

All the detail about his arm on her neck could be trying to get a story out if she is found with bruising on her throat.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

Yes but I think posters think the friends could have made sure she was definitely not going on the excursion (someone said Venmo history was released and she had Venmo her friend for the outing). When they heard the young man had not returned (not sure if that part matches timeline), they could have assumed that she was still with him.

I cannot imagine a scenario in which I do not check in with my friend to confirm she’s OK when she has spent multiple hours with a man She has only just met especially when she’s paid a large sum to go on this excursion. Nothing flagged in her friends heads that something was odd or off that she was hooking up with some random guy And missing out on the excursion?

You? Me? Yes of course. But them? They are foolish college girls, presumably running on a few hours sleep and probably very hungover. And didn’t want to miss the excursion they paid for, either. Odds are they woke up not long before the scheduled pickup time (not leaving a lot of extra time to search for their friend) and assumed she was with him and probably sleeping for a hangover. They had her phone so they couldn’t check with her to confirm. So they decided to go on the excursion (rather than be out $) and assumed she’d be there when they returned.

🤷🏻‍♀️ sure, last we saw Sudiksha she was super drunk with the drunk dude what's-his-name, at the red flag beach, at 5am. Oh, and we have her phone. Let's text other drunk dude and then hurry to meet up with our day boat. Else we'll lose our $24 excursion deposit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Indians are shamed by their behavior now in hiding per instructions from Indian parents

Or they are grieving and feeling guilty.

[Anonymous]

This is a great lesson in: the rights that you have in the United States do not necessarily apply in other countries.

In the US, they would not be able to detain him this long without charging him. And they would be unable to charge him without sufficient evidence.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

Yes but I think posters think the friends could have made sure she was definitely not going on the excursion (someone said Venmo history was released and she had Venmo her friend for the outing). When they heard the young man had not returned (not sure if that part matches timeline), they could have assumed that she was still with him.

I cannot imagine a scenario in which I do not check in with my friend to confirm she’s OK when she has spent multiple hours with a man She has only just met especially when she’s paid a large sum to go on this excursion. Nothing flagged in her friends heads that something was odd or off that she was hooking up with some random guy And missing out on the excursion?

You? Me? Yes of course. But them? They are foolish college girls, presumably running on a few hours sleep and probably very hungover. And didn’t want to miss the excursion they paid for, either. Odds are they woke up not long before the scheduled pickup time (not leaving a lot of extra time to search for their friend) and assumed she was with him and probably sleeping for a hangover. They had her phone so they couldn’t check with her to confirm. So they decided to go on the excursion (rather than be out $) and assumed she’d be there when they returned.

Per Ribe, her friend texted Carter Johnson looking for her. Since Ribe was not back at that point, they and CJ likely believed they were together. When Ribe returned alone and heard that the girl he says he had not seen for hours had not returned, at 10am he at least knew she was missing. We don’t know what he told CJ since he did not answer that LE question. We know he did not communicate that to friends, resort or LE. Friends had to deduce she was missing when returned at 4.

Why? Who benefits from delayed search? What was in his pocket that was not a phone or key?

All the detail about his arm on her neck could be trying to get a story out if she is found with bruising on her throat.

Why didnt CJ tell anyone she was missing at that point either? Would't both him and Ribe know at the same time she hadn't returned?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why people are blaming the guy, and her friends, for not keeping close track of her (as if she were a child)- particularly when they too, were all drinking.

It was very very common in college for one of us to “go home with a guy” or “crash somewhere else” or whatever. In the AM people were either sleeping in, or had places to be. A person would not necessarily be missed until afternoon at the earliest. Which seemed to be the case here.

Now many could say “how terrible, so irresponsible!” and they would not be wrong. It IS irresponsible. And dangerous! But it is not uncommon behavior among partying college kids at all. Particularly if this activity is in a confined space like a college campus or resort (as opposed to going out to clubs etc or somewhere more unusual).

I think it is very understandable (and very believable) that no one realized she was missing until later in the day. They all thought she was with others and/or sleeping, and this would not really be considered unusual college behavior.

Yes but I think posters think the friends could have made sure she was definitely not going on the excursion (someone said Venmo history was released and she had Venmo her friend for the outing). When they heard the young man had not returned (not sure if that part matches timeline), they could have assumed that she was still with him.

I cannot imagine a scenario in which I do not check in with my friend to confirm she’s OK when she has spent multiple hours with a man She has only just met especially when she’s paid a large sum to go on this excursion. Nothing flagged in her friends heads that something was odd or off that she was hooking up with some random guy And missing out on the excursion?

You? Me? Yes of course. But them? They are foolish college girls, presumably running on a few hours sleep and probably very hungover. And didn’t want to miss the excursion they paid for, either. Odds are they woke up not long before the scheduled pickup time (not leaving a lot of extra time to search for their friend) and assumed she was with him and probably sleeping for a hangover. They had her phone so they couldn’t check with her to confirm. So they decided to go on the excursion (rather than be out $) and assumed she’d be there when they returned.

🤷🏻‍♀️ sure, last we saw Sudiksha she was super drunk with the drunk dude what's-his-name, at the red flag beach, at 5am. Oh, and we have her phone. Let's text other drunk dude and then hurry to meet up with our day boat. Else we'll lose our $24 excursion deposit.

If they were responsible and of sound mind, they wouldn’t have left her in that situation in the first place. You really think anything would be different a few hours later?

For all we know, Sudiksha was the crazy friend who pulled sh!t like this all the time (wandering off with random guys etc). And would not listen to reason. Many of us had a friend like that in college. It may not have seemed particularly out of character.

Exactly the reason we should have heard much more from the girls, including one lifelong friend. They absolutely could have provided background info on Sudisksha that would be informative, if not helpful.

maybe they did provide that information.

That's no help

so what they should have done according to you after she disappeared.

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Anonymous wrote:I think people need to realize that nearly all parties involved (other than Ribe’s family) would like to see this blamed on foul play by Ribe.

It would make the girl’s family and friends feel better (this isn’t her fault, this isn’t the friends’ fault, it is HIS fault). Certainly the resort and the DR would like to see this pinned on him as well (DR is safe! This resort is safe! no fault of ours!). They don’t want any bad press, particularly considering their dependence on tourism.

Not saying Ribe couldn’t be guilty. Of course it is possible. But understand the circumstances of this at least.

The DR wantds it to be a drowning.

Didn't a few German tourists recently "drown" there same beach or nearby? Anyone know what German authorities found afterwards or any pending investigation in that incident?

The other tourists were observed to drown during the day by many witnesses. There was no investigation needed. It didn’t hurt tourism. They clearly wanted to make that finding this time, had her dad not intervened they likely would have closed it quickly. Natalee Holloway did not help tourism in Aruba.