Jen Hatmaker
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This would probably be filled with disgruntled people who wanted to be her best friend but didn't make the cut. Everyone is a critic. |
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Maybe the issue here about the affirmation isn't to call out her change of opinion- which yes, is not uncommon at all and is in fact the status quo among progressive Christians. Maybe the problem if when someone has a change of heart and immediately claims to "hate" the 50 percent or so of Christians who think like she did last week!
Also, as is often sadly the case, on the heels of "deconstruction" seems to have come "disolution"- changes in expression(cringy frequent profanity), announcing that church isn't necessary, and basically acting as though her faith has a very small place in her head. This is happening with a lot of celebrity Christians theses days and leads me to think that some of them only hung onto Christianity as long as things went well for them. When life lets them down, there's nothing there, showing that they are just as much a victim of "American Christianity" and the prosperity/personal happiness thing as the poor dumb Evangelicals that they scorn. |
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| So did anyone here actually get to go to Jen's house for these dinners for 12 with the pastor? |
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It’s a common tale. Back in the 90s and 2000s there was no real downside for celebrities, culturally, to being a Christian, even a conservative ones with conservative values. Now days, though, there is a huge downside for celebrities and people in the media saying things like sex before marriage is a sin, that even a thing like ‘sin’ exists, that human life begins at conception, that Christ and Christi alone saves sinners, etc. Nothing will get you immediately dismissed from elite circles than believing and saying such horrifically unfashionable things. Therefore, we are seeing is a mass abandonment from such beliefs among formally “Christian Celebrities”. Basically, no one wants to be the weirdo and outside the mainstream looking in, especially ambitious social climber types. The thirst for public approval for folks such as these is just too intense. |
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Yeah, it was already pointed out it was river not lake. The comment was also talking about a difference between house vs home and what that term means. It’s ok- not everyone can keep up. |
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The affirming thing is a microcosm of Jen and her approach to every single thing. (And typical for the narcissist leaning social media influencers). Every thought is a gem. Every opinion and belief is gospel. Even if it was different last week. That was true then but this is true now. Don’t you dare point out nuance or hypocrisy as you are then a hater.
We watched the affirmation dominoes fall in the evangelical world as more and more of the kids started coming out. It’s hit every church all over the country. When Jen and Brandon made the 180 it was as predictable as the sunrise that one of their kids was coming out. The issue is she was ALL ABOUT a Biblical stance on marriage. And then she was ALL ABOUT affirmation. There was no nuance or “wow this was a hard shift for us because xyz.” Or even “we still hold to a biblical definition of marriage BUT HAVING A GAY KID HAS MADE US RETHINK WHAT THAT MEANS.” Sorry for yelling im super annoyed. It was laughable in the post she made that discounted hundreds of years of church doctrine with their 7 months of digging Into the scriptures. I mean come on you’re no scholar and it’s disingenuous not to reveal you had a very motivating factor to become affirming. But she was all in 100% affirming this is the truth no questions asked I’ll block any haters I’m a biblical scholar this is it and she made that turn on a dime. A dear friend and pastor has a gay daughter and the way my friend has handled it has been amazing. She is very upfront about saying a gay daughter has made me rethink a lot of things I think I knew. Some have changed and some haven’t. I’ll never post about my thoughts and learnings but I’d love to have coffee with you if you want to discuss. It’s a hard and nuanced topic that is grounded in relationship not social media posts. But with Jen it’s the best ever ever ever until it isn’t and then the new thing is the best ever ever and that other thing isn’t anymore don’t even ask me about it because well now this thing is the best ever ever. |
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Didn’t make the cut? It’s church, heaux, not cheer try outs. If you’re gatekeeping friendship in 2022 I got news for you. |
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the house is on the colorado RIVER. i think the term river house is appropriate, but most people would still call it a lake house.
some people on this site are such jerks! |
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| The jerky comments tend to come right when the thread starts to unwrap something significant. Like a potential financial impropriety. Makes you wonder, huh? |
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That’s laughable— is this Mr. Corneater himself, aka Tray “Trustfund Baby” Pruet? Never wanted to be anyone’s best friend, sweetheart. I’m not out to win any popularity contests or to eat lunch at the cool kids’ table. I would, however, expect that as a church “planter”, she would be a little more relatable and approachable than she was. What she was good at is delegating all the dirty work. I imagine she’s never cleaned a toilet in her life; she’s too good for such demeaning work. That’s my issue— she thinks she’s better than me, you, all of us. I’m not one of the women who ever worshipped her. You could have hula hooped through some of the huge hoop earrings that women started wearing as soon as she started sporting those tacky huge earrings. Jen ate it up— she lavishes praise and affirmation. She says so herself— her dad heaped praise upon praise on her siblings and her. I applaud instilling confidence in your children, but I think it really molded Jen, and not in a good way. I’ve fed you a snack little troll— now move along. |
Anonymous
| Maybe Jen discovered he was stealing from the church or something and didn’t want to turn him in because she didn’t want her kids’ dad in jail. Maybe the church agreed not to prosecute if they paid it back. Or maybe he just spent money and she didn’t know about it. But something financial happened. |
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| Perhaps Jen has finally come to the realization that Christianity, and all religions, are just fantasy. |
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| She sure isn’t willing to go there yet as it would cost her a slew of quasi Christian followers who enjoy the freedom of no biblical standards but like enjoy the idea of a savior. Doubt she’ll call it all fantasy while her parents are alive. |