2024 Democratic National Convention

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Anonymous wrote:The conventions are always a bit long for me. But I've enjoyed the differences in the two this year. The differences are quite stark, in fact.

From last night, I thought Clinton . .. it wasn't his best. And went long. But he won't be doing many more of these so it was good to see.

I liked Jeffries a lot. The Boyfriend reference was hysterical. He's smart as a whip, charismatic, and a good speaker.

I also LOOOOOVED Pete. He was my candidate in 2020 and watching him you can see why.

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I love Pete also.

Jeffries gave a terrible speech. What are you talking about?

NP. I enjoyed it very much. I especially liked the reference to the old boyfriend who just won't go away, aka stalker. It was a fitting analogy to the donald.

It started a little awkwardly but he caught his stride and captured the crowd by the end. The old boyfriend analogy was great.

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Anonymous wrote:The DNC can throw a nice party with the Obamas, Clintons, Oprah, and musical acts, but if they invite multiple Jews to speak and can’t make room for a single Palestinian-American, I’ll sit out this election. If that means Trump again, so be it.

Then you are a moron and can reap the consequences. This is not a platform for Palestinian A to speak out about their issues, I say this as someone who has been and is a staunch Gaza supporter.

As for Jewish speakers, I saw Josh Shapiro but he was there as a governor, not as a person of Jewish faith. Also, politics is never about 100% this or that, it’s about timing. Like it or not but politics is never about idealism, there is a whole lot of gray and a smidge of black and white.

Name call all you want; it’s the DNC who are cowards and decided that kowtowing to Zionists was their priority, to the point of denying even a single Palestinian-American the opportunity to speak. They’ll lose my vote if they can’t fix that.

Well good for you and bless your heart. Jared Kushner loves you. He wants to help make Gaza into beautiful, beach condos and vacation homes. You know he already has the investors and developers. They want you to do that and hurry their projects along. They might have to pay Egypt and Jordan a good sum of money to take in all the remaining Palestinians that Israel don't take out because Trump will have no limits on Israel. NONE.

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Anonymous wrote:Penn-Wharton and Yale Law School vs.

Imagine thinking any of these rich elitists on either side gives a damn about regular Americans. They despise regular Americans. They pay big bucks so they and their kids never come in contact with regular Americans. Blue team, red team…it’s the same team. And we’re suckers for buying into this oligarch war-mongering illusion of choice theater.

Chris Cuomo of all people just nailed it. Red team, blue team…it’s the same team. These conventions are all prole theater with the same fat cats, mega corps, and Wall Street crooks controlling the show.

It’s amazing how Cuomo finally tells the truth now that he’s left CNN.

The defense and pharmaceutical industries own all the cable news networks (CNN, MSNBC, Fox but especially MSNBC and CNN) and guess who pushed for lower cost prescriptions for seniors from Canada and pushed for no new wars and getting along with Putin to fix up the Middle East/Syria, and avoid a new Cold War, inc. for Washington?

The deep state hates Trump esp Big Pharma and War, Inc that own all the commercials and news stations with their paid advertising

Trump did jack $hit for prescription drug prices for seniors. Dems fought hard to get that included in the Inflation Reduction Act and Repubs fought against them the whole way. I worked on it. Dont fool yourself for a minute that Trump has seniors best interest at heart unless you are a very rich senior.

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How did he give them what they wanted? He placed more sanctions on Russia and tarriffs on China.

Gave them what they wanted? How?

Tellingly, China didn’t encroach on Taiwan and Russia didn’t encroach on Ukraine when Trump was in office.

Putin invaded Crimea in 2014. Stopped then returned when Pres Biden came to office.

The rest of the world doesn’t fear or respect Democrat leaders or policy. They think they are beta males and weak.

They think Trump is strong and intimidating because he’s unpredictable

He pulled the US out of the TPP which would have been an economic check on China.
He turned a blind eye as China exterted more control over the south China Sea
He closed the US state department outpost in Wuhan, which had been tasked with monitoring health conditions.
He paid more in taxes to the Chinese government than the US government while he was president.
He turned a blind eye to the Russian troops that poured into Donbas and Donestk Ukraine.
He believe Putin over his own CIA and FBI where Russian interference in the 2016 election was concerned.
He allowed the Russian ties with Turkey and Iran grow at the expense of our allies, the Kurds, and civilian democrats in Syria.

I could go on, but your vie of the world under Trump is not accurate in any form.

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Hearing that Beyonce will appear as surprise guest tonight.

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My friend showed me a picture where he had all his 7 tvs on to the DNC, just to pissed me off.

Having 7 TVs on doesn't move the needle. There are selected households that have meters. It is like polling.

What if they are still doing it? 1,000,000 = 7,000,0000 therefore ratings arer low

LOL Are you suggesting 1,000,000 people have 7 tvs in their house and they all turn them on to watch the DNC to drive up ratings? Do you work for the Trump campaign with that level of intelligence?

NP. IDK. If there were 1 million Dems watching 7 TVs to drive up ratings, it would make them much smarter than the GOP, who failed to hack the numbers in such an apparently easy to manipulate way. And you’re fired would be issued by the Orange Man, who lives and dies by crowd size.

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Anonymous wrote:Hearing that Beyonce will appear as surprise guest tonight.

Doubt it. Wouldn't insult Pink like that.

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Anonymous wrote:The DNC can throw a nice party with the Obamas, Clintons, Oprah, and musical acts, but if they invite multiple Jews to speak and can’t make room for a single Palestinian-American, I’ll sit out this election. If that means Trump again, so be it.

Then you are a moron and can reap the consequences. This is not a platform for Palestinian A to speak out about their issues, I say this as someone who has been and is a staunch Gaza supporter.

As for Jewish speakers, I saw Josh Shapiro but he was there as a governor, not as a person of Jewish faith. Also, politics is never about 100% this or that, it’s about timing. Like it or not but politics is never about idealism, there is a whole lot of gray and a smidge of black and white.

Doug Emhoff spoke both as second gentleman AND as a person of Jewish Faith. He spent part of his time talking about how Harris has embraced his Jewish Faith and honors his family traditions, including cooking traditional Jewish foods for Passover. He has spoken as a Jew about antiSemitism. He is not hiding his Faith.

Attorney General Keith Ellison spoke about the Gaza situation during his speech. He is not Palestinian, but he is a Muslim.

The mistake you are both making is assuming that the concern trolls on here care about Jewish people or Gaza. They care about neither. They’re Republicans, hoping to push the one wedge issue they think might work.

Why? Because the GOP has nothing. There’s nothing likable about the GOP ticket, there’s nothing good in the GOP’s policies, which are essentially Christian nationalism both here and abroad, so support for Israel (because the Book of Revelations can’t come true if Jewish people aren’t there!) but antisemitism everywhere else. There’s a reason so many neo Nazis are Republicans. And so the GOP has naught to do but to sow discord.

Meanwhile Walz had an amazing speech last night and ended up showcasing his wonderful family and their close and loving relationship.

This!! Don't let the trolls use the war abroad to sow one domestically. Nothing gets accomplished when we are divided. Dems and independents are uniting as are nonMaga Republicans. It is about time. MAGA trolls need to be sent home.

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How did he give them what they wanted? He placed more sanctions on Russia and tarriffs on China.

Gave them what they wanted? How?

Tellingly, China didn’t encroach on Taiwan and Russia didn’t encroach on Ukraine when Trump was in office.

Putin invaded Crimea in 2014. Stopped then returned when Pres Biden came to office.

The rest of the world doesn’t fear or respect Democrat leaders or policy. They think they are beta males and weak.

They think Trump is strong and intimidating because he’s unpredictable

He pulled the US out of the TPP which would have been an economic check on China.
He turned a blind eye as China exterted more control over the south China Sea
He closed the US state department outpost in Wuhan, which had been tasked with monitoring health conditions.
He paid more in taxes to the Chinese government than the US government while he was president.
He turned a blind eye to the Russian troops that poured into Donbas and Donestk Ukraine.
He believe Putin over his own CIA and FBI where Russian interference in the 2016 election was concerned.
He allowed the Russian ties with Turkey and Iran grow at the expense of our allies, the Kurds, and civilian democrats in Syria.

I could go on, but your vie of the world under Trump is not accurate in any form.

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Anonymous wrote:As ever, the GOP keeps it klassy, this time by placing insects into the breakfast buffet where several states’ Democratic delegations were staying. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/21/maggots-chicago-democrats-hotel/74892695007/

The article I read said it was pro-Palestine protestors.

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I get angry every time I see what the GOP attempted to do on January 6. They truly tried to get their dictator installed, and to murder multiple lawmakers who would have stood in the way. I’m glad the Democrats are reminding everyone of not only what the Republicans did, but also that the GOP has once again elevated as their nominee the ringleader of the insurrection.

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This is like asking why the BLM protests in 2020 protested Trump outside the White House.

Because he's a big old racist who supports using the machinery of the law to execute innocent black people. (See, for example, the Central Park Five.) He's exactly the thing that BLM opposes. So the protests make sense.

Pro-Palestine groups trying to empower the Republicans is very much different.

you are mistaken and should read some primary sources. pro palestinian grps in chicago are firmly in the democratic party tent, that is why they are threatening to sit out election if they dont get their policy change. did you read or listen to their platform proposal in the form of a letter ro harris as delivered yesterday? + look up 1968 and why nixon won.

sadly harris is only marginally better than trump on this but maybe she has changed her mind in last few yrs. she no doubt knows more and it is a black and white issue.

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Anonymous wrote:As ever, the GOP keeps it klassy, this time by placing insects into the breakfast buffet where several states’ Democratic delegations were staying. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/21/maggots-chicago-democrats-hotel/74892695007/

The article I read said it was pro-Palestine protestors.

was it next to an article re jfk jr coming back from the dead to be trumps vp. or about pedos at comet pizza or in nancys SF house?

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Anonymous wrote:The DNC can throw a nice party with the Obamas, Clintons, Oprah, and musical acts, but if they invite multiple Jews to speak and can’t make room for a single Palestinian-American, I’ll sit out this election. If that means Trump again, so be it.

Then you are a moron and can reap the consequences. This is not a platform for Palestinian A to speak out about their issues, I say this as someone who has been and is a staunch Gaza supporter.

As for Jewish speakers, I saw Josh Shapiro but he was there as a governor, not as a person of Jewish faith. Also, politics is never about 100% this or that, it’s about timing. Like it or not but politics is never about idealism, there is a whole lot of gray and a smidge of black and white.

Name call all you want; it’s the DNC who are cowards and decided that kowtowing to Zionists was their priority, to the point of denying even a single Palestinian-American the opportunity to speak. They’ll lose my vote if they can’t fix that.

how many Palestinian-Americans did the RNC allow?

More important, what is the Trump plan for Palestine? (hint: push them into the sea so Jared can develop the beachfront)
What is the Biden-Harris plan? Get aid into Gaza, a cease fire, get the remaining hostages home and work towards a permanent two state solution.

Please explain to me why Palestinians and Arab-Muslims think Trump would be better?

They believe Trump can push to stop the war.

Let’s be honest. Do you think Hamas or Bibi will be more afraid of an America led by Kamala and Tim or Trump?

(I’m not going to even mention eyeliner Vance because he won’t inspire any fear in anybody).

These groups in particular will haggle and bargain over price of bread if you go to Israel or West Bank.. Both these groups have certain things in common and being passionate and stubborn to compromise and fold is one of those things. Blinker may be Jewish but he lacks the fire and temperament of someone like a Schumer or Anthony Weiner or even Bernie. He is a fence sitter and a sitting duck. Taking both sides of the conflict makes you a nobody. These 2 parties in the conflict need someone unpredictable and borderline insane like Trump.

Absolutely. Insane enough to raze the entire Gaza into a parking lot, that's Trump. How reassuring.

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Anonymous wrote:The DNC can throw a nice party with the Obamas, Clintons, Oprah, and musical acts, but if they invite multiple Jews to speak and can’t make room for a single Palestinian-American, I’ll sit out this election. If that means Trump again, so be it.

Then you are a moron and can reap the consequences. This is not a platform for Palestinian A to speak out about their issues, I say this as someone who has been and is a staunch Gaza supporter.

As for Jewish speakers, I saw Josh Shapiro but he was there as a governor, not as a person of Jewish faith. Also, politics is never about 100% this or that, it’s about timing. Like it or not but politics is never about idealism, there is a whole lot of gray and a smidge of black and white.

Name call all you want; it’s the DNC who are cowards and decided that kowtowing to Zionists was their priority, to the point of denying even a single Palestinian-American the opportunity to speak. They’ll lose my vote if they can’t fix that.

Go take a hike. After tumultuous 8-9 months of infighting within the party, we have reached this fragile unity, people like you can sit on the sidelines and sulk all you want. We don’t want your vote, you can reminisce about the good old days when Trump is back.

And it will be worse. Harris at least tries to walk the very thin line with being supportive of Israel while commiserating over Arab deaths. She has come out and verbally chastised Netanyahu about the wide-scale Arab death toll and the need for humanitarian aid to the Gazans.

Trump is a very, very pro-Israel supporter and has said nothing about protection or support for the Arabs. Trump has made no objections to Israel's defense of their borders and the singleminded determination of the Israelis to destroy Hamas even if it means horrific Arab civilian sacrifices.

So, while there are Arab sympathetic objectors to the current administration, voting for Trump or sitting out the election will actually be worse for US support of Palestinians. PP who says that Harris would lose your support, do you really realize that Trump will be worse for the Palestinians than Harris? She at least supports humanitarian aid for the Gazans and decries the violence against civilians that Hamas is using as human shields. Trump will not verbally support the Arabs, does not discourage Israeli violence against Palestinians and does not support humanitarian aid to Gaza.

So, why do you think that you supporting Trump or sitting out the election carries the message you want to send?

Why weren't there protests at the RNC, hmmm?

Because Dems actually care about Gaza. They are just trying to three an extremely delicate needle to keep the party unified for the election. But some Dem voters want more on Gaza and think protesting can get concessions, like. Speaker at the Convention. Understandable. But not helpful to getting Harris elected. And if she isn’t elected, Gaza will be wiped off the map.

So why no protestors at the R convention? Because everyone knows Trump doesn’t give a flying flip about Gaza and there are zero concession to be had. And Rs would be fine with protestors, who they would pain as violent leftists.

In related news, Rs would also be fine with LGBTQ protestors at their convention. Dems would actually care.

The problem is the Gaza protestors are like BERNIE bros. They want all their demands met now for they re sitting in a corner and sulking. That they don’t get that compromise is needed to reach a larger goal. They refuse to be team players, then yell when they aren't in the starting lineup.

Making room for one prominent Palestinian-American speaker would have been the right thing to do.

Instead, the DNC powerbrokers decided that bending over backwards to demonstrate their allegiance to Israel was the expedient thing to do.

Maybe it is from a polling perspective but Harris has lost my vote. If she’s too much of a coward to insist on what’s right at a convention, she certainly don’t have the courage to stand up to Netanyahu and the Jewish lobby if elected.

Sure. Making room for a prominent pro Palestinian that recognizes Israel’s right to exists, denounces Hamas and oct 7th and pretends they give a hoot about the terrorism and hostages that started this war would be fine. But find me one. I’ll wait. Having someone like Rashida tlaib up there is as inflammatory as having MTG on the RNC stage.