VMPI-ways to speak out

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They just shared that it will be unveiled in 2023-2024. Next stage by 2024-2025 and fully implemented in 2025-2026 so it will slowly roll out.
Therefore current 6th graders will be well into their math track and this should not factor in. I'd bee more concerned with rising 3rd graders possibly 4th graders.

In Loudoun and other counties, rising 4th graders and 5th graders are effected, as they are avoiding acceleration and putting them on this new pathway.
They said it was too stressful to test 5th graders.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They just shared that it will be unveiled in 2023-2024. Next stage by 2024-2025 and fully implemented in 2025-2026 so it will slowly roll out.
Therefore current 6th graders will be well into their math track and this should not factor in. I'd bee more concerned with rising 3rd graders possibly 4th graders.

In Loudoun and other counties, rising 4th graders and 5th graders are effected, as they are avoiding acceleration and putting them on this new pathway.
They said it was too stressful to test 5th graders.


What is worrisome is that after political and parental pressure, VDOE walked back on their idea of no acceleration, then push acceleration to the districts because they don’t want to deal with it or a to cover up their mistake. This means if the district doesn’t commit to acceleration or advanced tracking it will not happen. Districts will say they don’t have the resources or time to create those courses. We need to know what the districts will do. I need to know before June election.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They just shared that it will be unveiled in 2023-2024. Next stage by 2024-2025 and fully implemented in 2025-2026 so it will slowly roll out.
Therefore current 6th graders will be well into their math track and this should not factor in. I'd bee more concerned with rising 3rd graders possibly 4th graders.

In Loudoun and other counties, rising 4th graders and 5th graders are effected, as they are avoiding acceleration and putting them on this new pathway.
They said it was too stressful to test 5th graders.


What is worrisome is that after political and parental pressure, VDOE walked back on their idea of no acceleration, then push acceleration to the districts because they don’t want to deal with it or a to cover up their mistake. This means if the district doesn’t commit to acceleration or advanced tracking it will not happen. Districts will say they don’t have the resources or time to create those courses. We need to know what the districts will do. I need to know before June election.


Basically VDOE is leaving it where it stands I thought. If FCPS or others want to combine half a year ahead to accelerate then that is on them - as it is now. And they cannot say VDOE is blocking them from allowing Honors or for 7th graders to take 8th grade math for instance.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They just shared that it will be unveiled in 2023-2024. Next stage by 2024-2025 and fully implemented in 2025-2026 so it will slowly roll out.
Therefore current 6th graders will be well into their math track and this should not factor in. I'd bee more concerned with rising 3rd graders possibly 4th graders.

In Loudoun and other counties, rising 4th graders and 5th graders are effected, as they are avoiding acceleration and putting them on this new pathway.
They said it was too stressful to test 5th graders.


What is worrisome is that after political and parental pressure, VDOE walked back on their idea of no acceleration, then push acceleration to the districts because they don’t want to deal with it or a to cover up their mistake. This means if the district doesn’t commit to acceleration or advanced tracking it will not happen. Districts will say they don’t have the resources or time to create those courses. We need to know what the districts will do. I need to know before June election.


Basically VDOE is leaving it where it stands I thought. If FCPS or others want to combine half a year ahead to accelerate then that is on them - as it is now. And they cannot say VDOE is blocking them from allowing Honors or for 7th graders to take 8th grade math for instance.


Additionally, I'll point out that VA has a law on the books requiring some form of appropriate/specialized education for gifted children. At least in FCPS, they satisfy this mandate by using AAP/Advanced math classes, as I understand it. If they take that away, they possibly risk a lawsuit that they're no longer meeting the mandate for gifted education. So that at least gets us two levels of acceleration/pacing in FCPS.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They just shared that it will be unveiled in 2023-2024. Next stage by 2024-2025 and fully implemented in 2025-2026 so it will slowly roll out.
Therefore current 6th graders will be well into their math track and this should not factor in. I'd bee more concerned with rising 3rd graders possibly 4th graders.

In Loudoun and other counties, rising 4th graders and 5th graders are effected, as they are avoiding acceleration and putting them on this new pathway.
They said it was too stressful to test 5th graders.


What is worrisome is that after political and parental pressure, VDOE walked back on their idea of no acceleration, then push acceleration to the districts because they don’t want to deal with it or a to cover up their mistake. This means if the district doesn’t commit to acceleration or advanced tracking it will not happen. Districts will say they don’t have the resources or time to create those courses. We need to know what the districts will do. I need to know before June election.


The districts would already be doing advanced tracking. The key is your district might drop all this with the new standards, under pressure from state board.
The key is to get the school boards to insist to the curriculum committee to do honors classes and allow for advancement.
Right now if your district has algebra for 8th graders, then they should be letting kids advance one year.
Getting them to keep running algebra, geometry,algebra 2 as separate class track is also good.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Basically VDOE is leaving it where it stands I thought. instance.


That's what they are claiming, but this is only with regards to tracking and acceleration. I think they will still be pushing this internally.

However, they are changing the classes and getting rid of algebra, geometry, algebra 2 as standalone classes,
and they are eliminating a lower-level class and forcing everyone into their version of algebra 2 by 10th grade.
Anonymous
Lol, I love this. The liberal elites are getting a taste of their own medicine. I guess this is too progressive for them. Commence the exodus of the public school system.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Lol, I love this. The liberal elites are getting a taste of their own medicine. I guess this is too progressive for them. Commence the exodus of the public school system.


Exodus because...they might switch up the flow of algebra/geometry content in a few years?

Ok, snowflake.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol, I love this. The liberal elites are getting a taste of their own medicine. I guess this is too progressive for them. Commence the exodus of the public school system.


Exodus because...they might switch up the flow of algebra/geometry content in a few years?

Ok, snowflake.


No, because they are implementing it later. Algebra in 7th grade is very common in Loudoun/Fairfax with algebra 2/trig in 9th. Some kids are a year advanced beyond that.
Now these 7th grade algebra kids will be getting this dumbed-down blended course, effectively algebra in late 8th-9th.
The slightly advanced kids who take algebra in 8th would also be held back, and are very unlikely to be eligible for any advancement counties might provide.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Lol, I love this. The liberal elites are getting a taste of their own medicine. I guess this is too progressive for them. Commence the exodus of the public school system.


I'm confused. I'm not at all a liberal elite, and I wouldn't celebrate this. Even thinking this way, you're celebrating that they can keep their kids in schools that are good (private) while destroying public behind them for those who can't switch? That's...not cool.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol, I love this. The liberal elites are getting a taste of their own medicine. I guess this is too progressive for them. Commence the exodus of the public school system.


Exodus because...they might switch up the flow of algebra/geometry content in a few years?

Ok, snowflake.


No, because they are implementing it later. Algebra in 7th grade is very common in Loudoun/Fairfax with algebra 2/trig in 9th. Some kids are a year advanced beyond that.
Now these 7th grade algebra kids will be getting this dumbed-down blended course, effectively algebra in late 8th-9th.
The slightly advanced kids who take algebra in 8th would also be held back, and are very unlikely to be eligible for any advancement counties might provide.


Kids can still take those concepts in 7th. No one is being held back. Stop spreading misinformation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol, I love this. The liberal elites are getting a taste of their own medicine. I guess this is too progressive for them. Commence the exodus of the public school system.


Exodus because...they might switch up the flow of algebra/geometry content in a few years?

Ok, snowflake.


No, because they are implementing it later. Algebra in 7th grade is very common in Loudoun/Fairfax with algebra 2/trig in 9th. Some kids are a year advanced beyond that.
Now these 7th grade algebra kids will be getting this dumbed-down blended course, effectively algebra in late 8th-9th.
The slightly advanced kids who take algebra in 8th would also be held back, and are very unlikely to be eligible for any advancement counties might provide.


Kids can still take those concepts in 7th. No one is being held back. Stop spreading misinformation.


Kids in Loudoun are scheduled to take the new essential concepts 7 starting in 2023-2024.
Most of these kids would have been in algebra or geometry at that time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol, I love this. The liberal elites are getting a taste of their own medicine. I guess this is too progressive for them. Commence the exodus of the public school system.


Exodus because...they might switch up the flow of algebra/geometry content in a few years?

Ok, snowflake.


No, because they are implementing it later. Algebra in 7th grade is very common in Loudoun/Fairfax with algebra 2/trig in 9th. Some kids are a year advanced beyond that.
Now these 7th grade algebra kids will be getting this dumbed-down blended course, effectively algebra in late 8th-9th.
The slightly advanced kids who take algebra in 8th would also be held back, and are very unlikely to be eligible for any advancement counties might provide.


Kids can still take those concepts in 7th. No one is being held back. Stop spreading misinformation.


Perhaps in Fairfax, but in Loudoun kids who would have been taking algebra in 6th grade will now not be taking it until 7th grade. This is a reason for them to exodus separate from the claim of algebra/geometry content flow has been switched up.
This is already implemented, effecting next year's sixth graders. No one will be taking algebra in 6th grade for the first time in many years, when typically there are 50-100 who do so.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol, I love this. The liberal elites are getting a taste of their own medicine. I guess this is too progressive for them. Commence the exodus of the public school system.


Exodus because...they might switch up the flow of algebra/geometry content in a few years?

Ok, snowflake.


No, because they are implementing it later. Algebra in 7th grade is very common in Loudoun/Fairfax with algebra 2/trig in 9th. Some kids are a year advanced beyond that.
Now these 7th grade algebra kids will be getting this dumbed-down blended course, effectively algebra in late 8th-9th.
The slightly advanced kids who take algebra in 8th would also be held back, and are very unlikely to be eligible for any advancement counties might provide.


Kids can still take those concepts in 7th. No one is being held back. Stop spreading misinformation.


They certainly can if they are willing and able to do it outside of school.

Fine for those with parents that have the time, money, inclination to make it happen for them.

Everyone else? Not so much.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol, I love this. The liberal elites are getting a taste of their own medicine. I guess this is too progressive for them. Commence the exodus of the public school system.


Exodus because...they might switch up the flow of algebra/geometry content in a few years?

Ok, snowflake.


No, because they are implementing it later. Algebra in 7th grade is very common in Loudoun/Fairfax with algebra 2/trig in 9th. Some kids are a year advanced beyond that.
Now these 7th grade algebra kids will be getting this dumbed-down blended course, effectively algebra in late 8th-9th.
The slightly advanced kids who take algebra in 8th would also be held back, and are very unlikely to be eligible for any advancement counties might provide.


Kids can still take those concepts in 7th. No one is being held back. Stop spreading misinformation.


They certainly can if they are willing and able to do it outside of school.

Fine for those with parents that have the time, money, inclination to make it happen for them.

Everyone else? Not so much.


Stop spreading misinformation or I will report your posts to be deleted.

If the districts offer those classes and allow acceleration, the kids can still take them in 7th grade at their public school. No one is being held back.


STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION.

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