White Male Anger

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a white male, I'm more than willing to sit down and take my talking to. It's hundreds of years overdue. I mean that.

What I do get upset about is certain behaviors I see in the school system. And it could be as minor as all the teachers getting together to wear "Girls Rule" shirts (one even worse the shirt that "Boys Drool)"

Or when my son was running for a position in the government, and his female classmate won, his teacher cheered and "said oh yay, I was hoping a girl would win."

Keep in mind, that this was after the current crop of school government didnt have any boys in it all.

There are many little micro-examples of boys feeling marginalized in school, and I have many many more, and we're seeing the long term results of that already in education, with fewer boys pursuing higher education

As an African American women, I feel the impact of racism every damn day and you're complaining about a t-shirt.

Any discrimination is wrong. If we decide to tolerate "just a little", guess who gets shafted the hardest?

[Anonymous]

At our university, they gave women engineering students guaranteed housing for all 4 years for free. Getting housing on campus was extremely difficult after your soph. year. I'd hardly call burdening male engineering students with thousands of more dollars in student loan debt running with interest only a 'minor' microaggression. It's flat out discrimination against a subgroup of engineering students because they have penises.

It's also terrible how bad society discriminates against men when it comes to childcare. You wonder why men seem to be less involved with kids? How many parents would let their kids be watched by a male nanny or have a male baby sitter? Nope. So many parents would automatically assume any male who works with smaller kids or in an elementary school must be a pedophile. Meanwhile, all of those teachers who constantly sleep with students are overwhelmingly women who get a slap on the wrist. If a male teacher sleeps with a student, they get way harsher sentences too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:omg what would they do if they actually were really systematically oppressed? How would they feel if they could not change the color of their skin? How would they feel if they were told constantly from birth that they are a threat, will misbehave in school, will not amount to much of anything, will have a cell with their name on it when they grow older or get gunned down by the cops, would not be a great Dad, have a good job, go to college, not own a home, have a bunch of "Baby Momma's", be a pimp or a player, be homeless, kill themselves, live in a hood, and be a scary person once they pass the age of 10? Because, that is what I deal with as the mother of two black sons. Your husband can trade places with my black husband. I am sure he will like getting pulled over every week, some times multiple times, and be asked where he is going, referred to as boy, homeboy or partner by a cop. I am sure he would love not getting seated at a nice restaurant, ignored when buying a car, and steered when buying a home. Please! I will not cater to this nonsense of an angry white male.

Signed a very angry black woman

I'm not black but I have to wonder if all these PPs complaining about how white boys are experiencing micro-aggressions and discrimination- if someone could use magic do that your white son could trade places with a non-white boy or girl, would you choose to? Do you honestly think your white sons will have an easier life?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:omg what would they do if they actually were really systematically oppressed? How would they feel if they could not change the color of their skin? How would they feel if they were told constantly from birth that they are a threat, will misbehave in school, will not amount to much of anything, will have a cell with their name on it when they grow older or get gunned down by the cops, would not be a great Dad, have a good job, go to college, not own a home, have a bunch of "Baby Momma's", be a pimp or a player, be homeless, kill themselves, live in a hood, and be a scary person once they pass the age of 10? Because, that is what I deal with as the mother of two black sons. Your husband can trade places with my black husband. I am sure he will like getting pulled over every week, some times multiple times, and be asked where he is going, referred to as boy, homeboy or partner by a cop. I am sure he would love not getting seated at a nice restaurant, ignored when buying a car, and steered when buying a home. Please! I will not cater to this nonsense of an angry white male.

Signed a very angry black woman

You need to relax. Jeez. Your message is lost in the hysteria.

Signed,

Another black woman

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:omg what would they do if they actually were really systematically oppressed? How would they feel if they could not change the color of their skin? How would they feel if they were told constantly from birth that they are a threat, will misbehave in school, will not amount to much of anything, will have a cell with their name on it when they grow older or get gunned down by the cops, would not be a great Dad, have a good job, go to college, not own a home, have a bunch of "Baby Momma's", be a pimp or a player, be homeless, kill themselves, live in a hood, and be a scary person once they pass the age of 10? Because, that is what I deal with as the mother of two black sons. Your husband can trade places with my black husband. I am sure he will like getting pulled over every week, some times multiple times, and be asked where he is going, referred to as boy, homeboy or partner by a cop. I am sure he would love not getting seated at a nice restaurant, ignored when buying a car, and steered when buying a home. Please! I will not cater to this nonsense of an angry white male.

Signed a very angry black woman

I'm not black but I have to wonder if all these PPs complaining about how white boys are experiencing micro-aggressions and discrimination- if someone could use magic do that your white son could trade places with a non-white boy or girl, would you choose to? Do you honestly think your white sons will have an easier life?

Sure. I doubt a white boy would experience much difference trading places with an Asian male other than potentially having a better chance a meeting a beautiful Asian wife. Also, the stats now say that if he traded places with an Asian person that his household income will be likely even greater than if he were white since Asians now have the highest household incomes in America. Amazing how a minority group can have higher household incomes and wealth than even white people in America even though there is the working assumption that the whole system is racist against all minorities, which is keeping them down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have discussed with my WOC friends that white women have been also weaponizing privilege forever in order to maintain their place atop the societal hierarchy. I also think that this must be taken into account in any discussion about race, resources, and opportunity hoarding.

Yup, white women are very low on the totem pole in the oppression olympics. Remember how a white woman falsely accused a black man of assault in Tulsa, which sparked off a huge race riot/massacre and burning down of black businesses?

White women have a LOT they should be ashamed of and need to pay reparations for. They only get about +0.5 bonus points, for their vaginas only, in the oppression olympics, and should be near dead last for diversity quotas due to their historical privilege.

White women need to pay reparations? GFY u fat cow.

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a white male, I'm more than willing to sit down and take my talking to. It's hundreds of years overdue. I mean that.

What I do get upset about is certain behaviors I see in the school system. And it could be as minor as all the teachers getting together to wear "Girls Rule" shirts (one even worse the shirt that "Boys Drool)"

Or when my son was running for a position in the government, and his female classmate won, his teacher cheered and "said oh yay, I was hoping a girl would win."

Keep in mind, that this was after the current crop of school government didnt have any boys in it all.

There are many little micro-examples of boys feeling marginalized in school, and I have many many more, and we're seeing the long term results of that already in education, with fewer boys pursuing higher education

As an African American women, I feel the impact of racism every damn day and you're complaining about a t-shirt.

Any discrimination is wrong. If we decide to tolerate "just a little", guess who gets shafted the hardest?

You missed the point. Discrimination and institutional racism are two different experiences. The problem with the post that it equates white male fragility with institutionalized racism. Go tell Ahmaud Arbery about that t-shirt incident, both happened in 2020.

Oh wait, he's dead. Hunted down and killed. Killed on camera. I had to explain the killing to my child. The thing is, I have to explain the advertising messages, on t-shirts, to my kid too.

Or, the day that I came home upset because my white boss asked me to use the men's bathroom so that the women's bathroom could be saved for a white woman who was a cancer survivor. I never heard that you could get COVID-19 from a toilet seat in a different stall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a white male, I'm more than willing to sit down and take my talking to. It's hundreds of years overdue. I mean that.

What I do get upset about is certain behaviors I see in the school system. And it could be as minor as all the teachers getting together to wear "Girls Rule" shirts (one even worse the shirt that "Boys Drool)"

Or when my son was running for a position in the government, and his female classmate won, his teacher cheered and "said oh yay, I was hoping a girl would win."

Keep in mind, that this was after the current crop of school government didnt have any boys in it all.

There are many little micro-examples of boys feeling marginalized in school, and I have many many more, and we're seeing the long term results of that already in education, with fewer boys pursuing higher education

As an African American women, I feel the impact of racism every damn day and you're complaining about a t-shirt.

Any discrimination is wrong. If we decide to tolerate "just a little", guess who gets shafted the hardest?

You missed the point. Discrimination and institutional racism are two different experiences. The problem with the post that it equates white male fragility with institutionalized racism. Go tell Ahmaud Arbery about that t-shirt incident, both happened in 2020.

Oh wait, he's dead. Hunted down and killed. Killed on camera. I had to explain the killing to my child. The thing is, I have to explain the advertising messages, on t-shirts, to my kid too.

Or, the day that I came home upset because my white boss asked me to use the men's bathroom so that the women's bathroom could be saved for a white woman who was a cancer survivor. I never heard that you could get COVID-19 from a toilet seat in a different stall.

Right. But.. Calm down. Geez. The hysteria.🙄🙄

[Anonymous]

One more bit of data re: the OP’s husband’s fantasies of “preferential “ hiring.

https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/minorities-who-whiten-job-resumes-get-more-interviews

[Anonymous]

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/15/946905346/city-of-paris-is-fined-90-000-euros-for-naming-too-many-women-to-senior-position

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/2020/12/15/946905346/city-of-paris-is-fined-90-000-euros-for-naming-too-many-women-to-senior-position

I'm surprised that NPR ran that story. It is en vogue to replace current management with all women in the govt. They even brag about it!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Female here I can’t speak to other things but I can definitely say my young son is not seeing boys on tv being role models. Everything is geared toward girls now. Characters being changed to female all the time. It’s ridiculous to swing so far to the other side so all I can show my son is old tv shows or movies with a boy lead.

Seriously? My non-white DD rarely sees kids who like her on TV. However, white boys are tv/movie heroes all the time!

my Asian kids hardly see anyone who are like them on tv.

and if they do, the actors on TV have an accent or a character flaw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have become aware recently after having heard rants from my upper middle class white early thirties husband, that there is a subgroup of men who have a lot of resentment and anger at the state of current affairs in our society.

- They feel young boys are not included in early education and socialization efforts as the focus is solely on empowering young girls and minorities
- They feel resentful that they are being told they are "bad" or "toxic" and being called "rapist"
- Women and minorities are hired for jobs and opportunities instead of them
- Media is taken over by women and Minorities
- Politics is taken over by special interest groups that does not necessarily favor their interests

Is this a larger intellectual movement or not?

I am a white woman with sons and I’m angry as hell about the same things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a white male, I'm more than willing to sit down and take my talking to. It's hundreds of years overdue. I mean that.

What I do get upset about is certain behaviors I see in the school system. And it could be as minor as all the teachers getting together to wear "Girls Rule" shirts (one even worse the shirt that "Boys Drool)"

Or when my son was running for a position in the government, and his female classmate won, his teacher cheered and "said oh yay, I was hoping a girl would win."

Keep in mind, that this was after the current crop of school government didnt have any boys in it all.

There are many little micro-examples of boys feeling marginalized in school, and I have many many more, and we're seeing the long term results of that already in education, with fewer boys pursuing higher education

As an African American women, I feel the impact of racism every damn day and you're complaining about a t-shirt.

Any discrimination is wrong. If we decide to tolerate "just a little", guess who gets shafted the hardest?

You missed the point. Discrimination and institutional racism are two different experiences. The problem with the post that it equates white male fragility with institutionalized racism. Go tell Ahmaud Arbery about that t-shirt incident, both happened in 2020.

Oh wait, he's dead. Hunted down and killed. Killed on camera. I had to explain the killing to my child. The thing is, I have to explain the advertising messages, on t-shirts, to my kid too.

Or, the day that I came home upset because my white boss asked me to use the men's bathroom so that the women's bathroom could be saved for a white woman who was a cancer survivor. I never heard that you could get COVID-19 from a toilet seat in a different stall.

So it would be ok if I ran around with my "Men Rule" t-shirt because it isn't killing anybody?

I am sorry about your workplace, the entitlement of white women and COVID can't be fixed until we have some people willing to trust science instead of their grade school intuition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Female here I can’t speak to other things but I can definitely say my young son is not seeing boys on tv being role models. Everything is geared toward girls now. Characters being changed to female all the time. It’s ridiculous to swing so far to the other side so all I can show my son is old tv shows or movies with a boy lead.

Seriously? My non-white DD rarely sees kids who like her on TV. However, white boys are tv/movie heroes all the time!

my Asian kids hardly see anyone who are like them on tv.

And yet Asian kids succeed wildly. I’m sure the people posting on this forum don’t even understand that this has to do with hard work, dedicated and devoted parents, and a good moral structure.