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Anonymous wrote:Yes - ST math will adjust. It was also written by people who have a learning disability and it was made to support all learners which is why there are no written directions.

LOL. That tells me everything I need to know about this program, and why my kid kept saying it's stupid, easy, and boring.

I have one kid with learning disabilities and one that’s a genius like your little snowflake and if the level is adjusted correctly, it can be helpful for both.

Not sure why you're getting hurt here, I truly think it explains a lot. I have absolutely nothing against SN, or any kid with any kind of disability. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of forcing this program down everyone's throat, especially in an AAP class, where I'm seeing more than half of the kids bored to tears (so definitely not just my kid). Cmon FCPS... use the right tool for the job! This is fine for some kids, but it clearly isn't going to work for others. In any case, now I definitely have no say when my kid is telling the truth. At least now at home he can read on the computer or do something productive while he's waiting for the teacher to finish explaining how to click and drag pictures to make place values. And the teacher can't see and scold them because they're not "paying attention" to the nonsense.

COVID is definitely exposing the internals of what kind of learning is taking place in school, and it's definitely sad. So far, it's about 1 hour worth of real honest learning, and the rest a bunch of fluff, repetition, and following directions. I don't think this will change too much for the rest of the year, and I don't think this would have been much different even in a live class. Even in an AAP class, which was also sadly predictable.

DP. You're not understanding. It was written by someone with dyslexia who wrote a math focused math app, not a writing focused math app.

That's not bad for any kids, AAP or not.

Of course I get that. It's just that it really doesn't really cater to all the kids. It just can't, by design. And the data and numerous posts here show that it is painful and largely a waste of time. There are many other programs, including lots of free ones such as KA that are perfectly fine and straightforward. But as usual, it's another misguided attempt by FCPS to spend $$ to farm math learning away from the teachers hands and into the corporations pockets.

No, people are complaining because some teachers have not yet assigned units or set the correct grade. It's working for those students who have it set properly. It teaches spatial perception, which some children have an easier time with (one of my kids) and some kids struggle with (another of my kids).

Latching on to the "it's designed for SN kids" is insulting and inaccurate.

I believe someone said it was written by people who have a learning disability. If that's true, which the poster seemed to seriously indicate, then it does suggest that it's catered mostly to SN kids or anyone with any kind of LD in math. Sorry that it made me laugh. It's still quite telling since so many are complaining about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes - ST math will adjust. It was also written by people who have a learning disability and it was made to support all learners which is why there are no written directions.

LOL. That tells me everything I need to know about this program, and why my kid kept saying it's stupid, easy, and boring.

I have one kid with learning disabilities and one that’s a genius like your little snowflake and if the level is adjusted correctly, it can be helpful for both.

Not sure why you're getting hurt here, I truly think it explains a lot. I have absolutely nothing against SN, or any kid with any kind of disability. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of forcing this program down everyone's throat, especially in an AAP class, where I'm seeing more than half of the kids bored to tears (so definitely not just my kid). Cmon FCPS... use the right tool for the job! This is fine for some kids, but it clearly isn't going to work for others. In any case, now I definitely have no say when my kid is telling the truth. At least now at home he can read on the computer or do something productive while he's waiting for the teacher to finish explaining how to click and drag pictures to make place values. And the teacher can't see and scold them because they're not "paying attention" to the nonsense.

COVID is definitely exposing the internals of what kind of learning is taking place in school, and it's definitely sad. So far, it's about 1 hour worth of real honest learning, and the rest a bunch of fluff, repetition, and following directions. I don't think this will change too much for the rest of the year, and I don't think this would have been much different even in a live class. Even in an AAP class, which was also sadly predictable.

DP. You're not understanding. It was written by someone with dyslexia who wrote a math focused math app, not a writing focused math app.

That's not bad for any kids, AAP or not.

Of course I get that. It's just that it really doesn't really cater to all the kids. It just can't, by design. And the data and numerous posts here show that it is painful and largely a waste of time. There are many other programs, including lots of free ones such as KA that are perfectly fine and straightforward. But as usual, it's another misguided attempt by FCPS to spend $$ to farm math learning away from the teachers hands and into the corporations pockets.

No, people are complaining because some teachers have not yet assigned units or set the correct grade. It's working for those students who have it set properly. It teaches spatial perception, which some children have an easier time with (one of my kids) and some kids struggle with (another of my kids).

Latching on to the "it's designed for SN kids" is insulting and inaccurate.

I believe someone said it was written by people who have a learning disability. If that's true, which the poster seemed to seriously indicate, then it does suggest that it's catered mostly to SN kids or anyone with any kind of LD in math. Sorry that it made me laugh. It's still quite telling since so many are complaining about it.

Dyslexia is not a learning disability in math.

Parents complain about everything. Homework, no homework, too hard, too easy. Mean teachers, nice teachers, everything.

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“Parents complain about everything. Homework, no homework, too hard, too easy. Mean teachers, nice teachers, everything.“

All parents complain about something, which means everything is complained about at some point. It’s not that we all have the same complaints. If we didn’t have any complaints we would be bad parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes - ST math will adjust. It was also written by people who have a learning disability and it was made to support all learners which is why there are no written directions.

LOL. That tells me everything I need to know about this program, and why my kid kept saying it's stupid, easy, and boring.

I have one kid with learning disabilities and one that’s a genius like your little snowflake and if the level is adjusted correctly, it can be helpful for both.

Not sure why you're getting hurt here, I truly think it explains a lot. I have absolutely nothing against SN, or any kid with any kind of disability. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of forcing this program down everyone's throat, especially in an AAP class, where I'm seeing more than half of the kids bored to tears (so definitely not just my kid). Cmon FCPS... use the right tool for the job! This is fine for some kids, but it clearly isn't going to work for others. In any case, now I definitely have no say when my kid is telling the truth. At least now at home he can read on the computer or do something productive while he's waiting for the teacher to finish explaining how to click and drag pictures to make place values. And the teacher can't see and scold them because they're not "paying attention" to the nonsense.

COVID is definitely exposing the internals of what kind of learning is taking place in school, and it's definitely sad. So far, it's about 1 hour worth of real honest learning, and the rest a bunch of fluff, repetition, and following directions. I don't think this will change too much for the rest of the year, and I don't think this would have been much different even in a live class. Even in an AAP class, which was also sadly predictable.

DP. You're not understanding. It was written by someone with dyslexia who wrote a math focused math app, not a writing focused math app.

That's not bad for any kids, AAP or not.

Of course I get that. It's just that it really doesn't really cater to all the kids. It just can't, by design. And the data and numerous posts here show that it is painful and largely a waste of time. There are many other programs, including lots of free ones such as KA that are perfectly fine and straightforward. But as usual, it's another misguided attempt by FCPS to spend $$ to farm math learning away from the teachers hands and into the corporations pockets.

No, people are complaining because some teachers have not yet assigned units or set the correct grade. It's working for those students who have it set properly. It teaches spatial perception, which some children have an easier time with (one of my kids) and some kids struggle with (another of my kids).

Latching on to the "it's designed for SN kids" is insulting and inaccurate.

It seems like most of the teachers/schools have started kids in first grade. Very few people posted saying the math matched up with what was being learned in class.

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Its poorly designed. A so-called adaptive program wouldn't keep kids clicking endlessly and correctly on the same types of problems. A 6th grader should be flying thru the first grade levels. They aren't.

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Our 3rd grader seems to be doing more advanced math than any of your kids. So maybe talk to your teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes - ST math will adjust. It was also written by people who have a learning disability and it was made to support all learners which is why there are no written directions.

LOL. That tells me everything I need to know about this program, and why my kid kept saying it's stupid, easy, and boring.

I have one kid with learning disabilities and one that’s a genius like your little snowflake and if the level is adjusted correctly, it can be helpful for both.

Not sure why you're getting hurt here, I truly think it explains a lot. I have absolutely nothing against SN, or any kid with any kind of disability. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of forcing this program down everyone's throat, especially in an AAP class, where I'm seeing more than half of the kids bored to tears (so definitely not just my kid). Cmon FCPS... use the right tool for the job! This is fine for some kids, but it clearly isn't going to work for others. In any case, now I definitely have no say when my kid is telling the truth. At least now at home he can read on the computer or do something productive while he's waiting for the teacher to finish explaining how to click and drag pictures to make place values. And the teacher can't see and scold them because they're not "paying attention" to the nonsense.

COVID is definitely exposing the internals of what kind of learning is taking place in school, and it's definitely sad. So far, it's about 1 hour worth of real honest learning, and the rest a bunch of fluff, repetition, and following directions. I don't think this will change too much for the rest of the year, and I don't think this would have been much different even in a live class. Even in an AAP class, which was also sadly predictable.

DP. You're not understanding. It was written by someone with dyslexia who wrote a math focused math app, not a writing focused math app.

That's not bad for any kids, AAP or not.

Of course I get that. It's just that it really doesn't really cater to all the kids. It just can't, by design. And the data and numerous posts here show that it is painful and largely a waste of time. There are many other programs, including lots of free ones such as KA that are perfectly fine and straightforward. But as usual, it's another misguided attempt by FCPS to spend $$ to farm math learning away from the teachers hands and into the corporations pockets.

No, people are complaining because some teachers have not yet assigned units or set the correct grade. It's working for those students who have it set properly. It teaches spatial perception, which some children have an easier time with (one of my kids) and some kids struggle with (another of my kids).

Latching on to the "it's designed for SN kids" is insulting and inaccurate.

It seems like most of the teachers/schools have started kids in first grade. Very few people posted saying the math matched up with what was being learned in class.

DD's teacher has set them on the right path. It's still painfully slow, and at this point, none of us know what is being gained by it. So for instance, the kids are doing ratios in class. The first corresponding unit has monsters with body parts. One eye to 2 ears and 3 arms, for instance. The kids have to figure that out, but then they do that like 50 times (and each question they answer, takes several seconds to show them that it is in fact, correct). Even if they get the questions right, they still have to get through the entire module, before they get a different type of question. The following module is Stretch a block, which is loosely related to proportions, but more of a tenuous thread. Then there is Kaboomerang, which is basically to line up a bunch of shapes in the right place, and drop them into slots below. No idea what that is about. That's about where we are, 2 weeks in. Each of these modules take at least an hour, often longer, regardless of how quickly they figure out what to manipulate to get the results they need to get out. The kids hate it. Everyone gets the exact same questions and path, regardless of how well they're doing.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes - ST math will adjust. It was also written by people who have a learning disability and it was made to support all learners which is why there are no written directions.

LOL. That tells me everything I need to know about this program, and why my kid kept saying it's stupid, easy, and boring.

WOW. You are an insensitive asshole. Go away troll.

Ok then, I'm trolling Have you actually tried the program? Did you even bother to read this whole thread? It's below average, and downright harmful to some kids.

You don't troll by being hateful and rude towards people with learning disabilities.

No, I haven't tried the program because I'm not in elementary school. My 7 year old has, and the teacher appears to have set the level appropriately for her, so she likes playing the game, and hasn't complained about the level being too easy or boring. I have a job and I'm not a helicopter mom, so I'm not watching her constantly and I have no idea if she's repeating things or not.

Anyway, I don't think you should make fun of the people who made the program for something that is most likely the teacher's fault for not setting the level right or your child's fault for messing around.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes - ST math will adjust. It was also written by people who have a learning disability and it was made to support all learners which is why there are no written directions.

LOL. That tells me everything I need to know about this program, and why my kid kept saying it's stupid, easy, and boring.

I have one kid with learning disabilities and one that’s a genius like your little snowflake and if the level is adjusted correctly, it can be helpful for both.

Not sure why you're getting hurt here, I truly think it explains a lot. I have absolutely nothing against SN, or any kid with any kind of disability. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of forcing this program down everyone's throat, especially in an AAP class, where I'm seeing more than half of the kids bored to tears (so definitely not just my kid). Cmon FCPS... use the right tool for the job! This is fine for some kids, but it clearly isn't going to work for others. In any case, now I definitely have no say when my kid is telling the truth. At least now at home he can read on the computer or do something productive while he's waiting for the teacher to finish explaining how to click and drag pictures to make place values. And the teacher can't see and scold them because they're not "paying attention" to the nonsense.

COVID is definitely exposing the internals of what kind of learning is taking place in school, and it's definitely sad. So far, it's about 1 hour worth of real honest learning, and the rest a bunch of fluff, repetition, and following directions. I don't think this will change too much for the rest of the year, and I don't think this would have been much different even in a live class. Even in an AAP class, which was also sadly predictable.

DP. You're not understanding. It was written by someone with dyslexia who wrote a math focused math app, not a writing focused math app.

That's not bad for any kids, AAP or not.

Of course I get that. It's just that it really doesn't really cater to all the kids. It just can't, by design. And the data and numerous posts here show that it is painful and largely a waste of time. There are many other programs, including lots of free ones such as KA that are perfectly fine and straightforward. But as usual, it's another misguided attempt by FCPS to spend $$ to farm math learning away from the teachers hands and into the corporations pockets.

No, people are complaining because some teachers have not yet assigned units or set the correct grade. It's working for those students who have it set properly. It teaches spatial perception, which some children have an easier time with (one of my kids) and some kids struggle with (another of my kids).

Latching on to the "it's designed for SN kids" is insulting and inaccurate.

It seems like most of the teachers/schools have started kids in first grade. Very few people posted saying the math matched up with what was being learned in class.

Then how about you bitches complain to the teacher, principal, or technology person in the school in order to get your child set on the correct level?? I'm so sick of people who come and whine on the internet, but are too scared or timid or dumb to talk to someone about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes - ST math will adjust. It was also written by people who have a learning disability and it was made to support all learners which is why there are no written directions.

LOL. That tells me everything I need to know about this program, and why my kid kept saying it's stupid, easy, and boring.

I have one kid with learning disabilities and one that’s a genius like your little snowflake and if the level is adjusted correctly, it can be helpful for both.

Not sure why you're getting hurt here, I truly think it explains a lot. I have absolutely nothing against SN, or any kid with any kind of disability. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of forcing this program down everyone's throat, especially in an AAP class, where I'm seeing more than half of the kids bored to tears (so definitely not just my kid). Cmon FCPS... use the right tool for the job! This is fine for some kids, but it clearly isn't going to work for others. In any case, now I definitely have no say when my kid is telling the truth. At least now at home he can read on the computer or do something productive while he's waiting for the teacher to finish explaining how to click and drag pictures to make place values. And the teacher can't see and scold them because they're not "paying attention" to the nonsense.

COVID is definitely exposing the internals of what kind of learning is taking place in school, and it's definitely sad. So far, it's about 1 hour worth of real honest learning, and the rest a bunch of fluff, repetition, and following directions. I don't think this will change too much for the rest of the year, and I don't think this would have been much different even in a live class. Even in an AAP class, which was also sadly predictable.

DP. You're not understanding. It was written by someone with dyslexia who wrote a math focused math app, not a writing focused math app.

That's not bad for any kids, AAP or not.

Of course I get that. It's just that it really doesn't really cater to all the kids. It just can't, by design. And the data and numerous posts here show that it is painful and largely a waste of time. There are many other programs, including lots of free ones such as KA that are perfectly fine and straightforward. But as usual, it's another misguided attempt by FCPS to spend $$ to farm math learning away from the teachers hands and into the corporations pockets.

No, people are complaining because some teachers have not yet assigned units or set the correct grade. It's working for those students who have it set properly. It teaches spatial perception, which some children have an easier time with (one of my kids) and some kids struggle with (another of my kids).

Latching on to the "it's designed for SN kids" is insulting and inaccurate.

It seems like most of the teachers/schools have started kids in first grade. Very few people posted saying the math matched up with what was being learned in class.

Then how about you bitches complain to the teacher, principal, or technology person in the school in order to get your child set on the correct level?? I'm so sick of people who come and whine on the internet, but are too scared or timid or dumb to talk to someone about it.

Why should I have to do that? Shouldn't the schools and teachers KNOW they are supposed to SET THE PROGRAM LEVEL? And not start AAP 5th graders on first grade math games?

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FCPS, 3rd grade, was assigned to do 30 min. a week. I wish DC can skip this (because no benefit), but we were told that "effort" is one of the grading factors...

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Anonymous wrote:Yes - ST math will adjust. It was also written by people who have a learning disability and it was made to support all learners which is why there are no written directions.

LOL. That tells me everything I need to know about this program, and why my kid kept saying it's stupid, easy, and boring.

I have one kid with learning disabilities and one that’s a genius like your little snowflake and if the level is adjusted correctly, it can be helpful for both.

Not sure why you're getting hurt here, I truly think it explains a lot. I have absolutely nothing against SN, or any kid with any kind of disability. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of forcing this program down everyone's throat, especially in an AAP class, where I'm seeing more than half of the kids bored to tears (so definitely not just my kid). Cmon FCPS... use the right tool for the job! This is fine for some kids, but it clearly isn't going to work for others. In any case, now I definitely have no say when my kid is telling the truth. At least now at home he can read on the computer or do something productive while he's waiting for the teacher to finish explaining how to click and drag pictures to make place values. And the teacher can't see and scold them because they're not "paying attention" to the nonsense.

COVID is definitely exposing the internals of what kind of learning is taking place in school, and it's definitely sad. So far, it's about 1 hour worth of real honest learning, and the rest a bunch of fluff, repetition, and following directions. I don't think this will change too much for the rest of the year, and I don't think this would have been much different even in a live class. Even in an AAP class, which was also sadly predictable.

DP. You're not understanding. It was written by someone with dyslexia who wrote a math focused math app, not a writing focused math app.

That's not bad for any kids, AAP or not.

Of course I get that. It's just that it really doesn't really cater to all the kids. It just can't, by design. And the data and numerous posts here show that it is painful and largely a waste of time. There are many other programs, including lots of free ones such as KA that are perfectly fine and straightforward. But as usual, it's another misguided attempt by FCPS to spend $$ to farm math learning away from the teachers hands and into the corporations pockets.

No, people are complaining because some teachers have not yet assigned units or set the correct grade. It's working for those students who have it set properly. It teaches spatial perception, which some children have an easier time with (one of my kids) and some kids struggle with (another of my kids).

Latching on to the "it's designed for SN kids" is insulting and inaccurate.

It seems like most of the teachers/schools have started kids in first grade. Very few people posted saying the math matched up with what was being learned in class.

Then how about you bitches complain to the teacher, principal, or technology person in the school in order to get your child set on the correct level?? I'm so sick of people who come and whine on the internet, but are too scared or timid or dumb to talk to someone about it.

Why should I have to do that? Shouldn't the schools and teachers KNOW they are supposed to SET THE PROGRAM LEVEL? And not start AAP 5th graders on first grade math games?

I told my students to only do things I assign. -AAP teacher.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS, 3rd grade, was assigned to do 30 min. a week. I wish DC can skip this (because no benefit), but we were told that "effort" is one of the grading factors...

who cares about a 3rd grade effort grade.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes - ST math will adjust. It was also written by people who have a learning disability and it was made to support all learners which is why there are no written directions.

LOL. That tells me everything I need to know about this program, and why my kid kept saying it's stupid, easy, and boring.

I have one kid with learning disabilities and one that’s a genius like your little snowflake and if the level is adjusted correctly, it can be helpful for both.

Not sure why you're getting hurt here, I truly think it explains a lot. I have absolutely nothing against SN, or any kid with any kind of disability. I'm just pointing out the stupidity of forcing this program down everyone's throat, especially in an AAP class, where I'm seeing more than half of the kids bored to tears (so definitely not just my kid). Cmon FCPS... use the right tool for the job! This is fine for some kids, but it clearly isn't going to work for others. In any case, now I definitely have no say when my kid is telling the truth. At least now at home he can read on the computer or do something productive while he's waiting for the teacher to finish explaining how to click and drag pictures to make place values. And the teacher can't see and scold them because they're not "paying attention" to the nonsense.

COVID is definitely exposing the internals of what kind of learning is taking place in school, and it's definitely sad. So far, it's about 1 hour worth of real honest learning, and the rest a bunch of fluff, repetition, and following directions. I don't think this will change too much for the rest of the year, and I don't think this would have been much different even in a live class. Even in an AAP class, which was also sadly predictable.

DP. You're not understanding. It was written by someone with dyslexia who wrote a math focused math app, not a writing focused math app.

That's not bad for any kids, AAP or not.

Of course I get that. It's just that it really doesn't really cater to all the kids. It just can't, by design. And the data and numerous posts here show that it is painful and largely a waste of time. There are many other programs, including lots of free ones such as KA that are perfectly fine and straightforward. But as usual, it's another misguided attempt by FCPS to spend $$ to farm math learning away from the teachers hands and into the corporations pockets.

No, people are complaining because some teachers have not yet assigned units or set the correct grade. It's working for those students who have it set properly. It teaches spatial perception, which some children have an easier time with (one of my kids) and some kids struggle with (another of my kids).

Latching on to the "it's designed for SN kids" is insulting and inaccurate.

Exactly, it is designed by someone with a learning disability, but the system is for ALL students, to help ALL students practice/learn using a new methodology.

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Anonymous wrote:Its poorly designed. A so-called adaptive program wouldn't keep kids clicking endlessly and correctly on the same types of problems. A 6th grader should be flying thru the first grade levels. They aren't.

If he's not progressing past first grade then he is not trying to think critically on how to solve the problem - case closed.