White Folks Guide to Protesting

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Anonymous wrote:Armchair racists, thank you for staying home.

Who’s an armchair racist here? Someone who says they aren’t going to “follow the direction of black people without question”? I’m not doing that for anyone unless they’re pointing a gun at me.

What wild shenanigans are you expecting to be asked to do?

There has been a lot of violence this week. Police violence. Protestor violence. There is also a global pandemic going on and social distancing guidelines in place. These are not absurd concerns.

It also doesn't say "listen to the official organizers.". It literally says any rando black person.

We're just responding to what was written. If people stopped defending it and just admitted it was overboard this thread would have died an early death.

Exactly. This sort of message is extremely alienating.

Oh my God white people. Black woman here. Come on! Even in these arguments you are centering everything on you!! Do you understand that in our workplaces and when we are out and about when white folks step into a space they can sometimes suck all of the air out of a room!!! We are not seen half the time - that is part of the reason this happened. You do all these mental gymnastics to create an argument to NOT support black people.

All we need you do to is just LISTEN! Stop making this about you and your feelings. If you don't want to be an ally on the streets stay home. There is plenty you can do FROM HOME support a black business, send money to an HBCU speak up when biases are at play in your office, if you are in a position of power review the salaries of people you are responsible for on your job by race/gender. Are there any inequities there? Why is that?

This movement will continue. There are plenty of white people that truly, truly get it. Just try LISTENING for a change.

Maybe you also need to listen to people who have worked inside the movement for police brutality reform, who know that this list reflects real bullying that is going on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That is some white baiting or some trolling list. My DS is with his friends, some white, some black, and none of these are a thing.
If anything due to my son's height and weight his black friend(plus serious naivete!) his taller black friends are more likely to protect him. Heck, that goes for his black friend who is shorter than DS! The shorter, skinnier kids are protected by their taller more muscular friends regardless of the color of their skin.
Join all tomorrow for a country wide protest!

Why don't you search for this language on FB. You'll find hits in racial justice groups, assuming you belong to them.

Yeah, I searched for it after seeing it here. It’s real.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Armchair racists, thank you for staying home.

Who’s an armchair racist here? Someone who says they aren’t going to “follow the direction of black people without question”? I’m not doing that for anyone unless they’re pointing a gun at me.

What wild shenanigans are you expecting to be asked to do?

There has been a lot of violence this week. Police violence. Protestor violence. There is also a global pandemic going on and social distancing guidelines in place. These are not absurd concerns.

It also doesn't say "listen to the official organizers.". It literally says any rando black person.

We're just responding to what was written. If people stopped defending it and just admitted it was overboard this thread would have died an early death.

Exactly. This sort of message is extremely alienating.

Oh my God white people. Black woman here. Come on! Even in these arguments you are centering everything on you!! Do you understand that in our workplaces and when we are out and about when white folks step into a space they can sometimes suck all of the air out of a room!!! We are not seen half the time - that is part of the reason this happened. You do all these mental gymnastics to create an argument to NOT support black people.

All we need you do to is just LISTEN! Stop making this about you and your feelings. If you don't want to be an ally on the streets stay home. There is plenty you can do FROM HOME support a black business, send money to an HBCU speak up when biases are at play in your office, if you are in a position of power review the salaries of people you are responsible for on your job by race/gender. Are there any inequities there? Why is that?

This movement will continue. There are plenty of white people that truly, truly get it. Just try LISTENING for a change.

Maybe you also need to listen to people who have worked inside the movement for police brutality reform, who know that this list reflects real bullying that is going on.

I know plenty of people directly involved in this movement. All I see here is a bunch of drivel about hurt feelings. You aren't committed then if you can't take a bit of straight talk. WTF do you think Black folks have been dealing with here. It's life or death, not a bunch of harsh talk.

Bye!!

[Anonymous]

Already 28 K new cases today. I hope the protestors are happy when thousands more people get sick and die, we have to go into another quarantine all summer and the economy sinks into a Depression, and we have 50% unemployment. Thanks! Hope it was worth it!

[Anonymous]

Vienna VA protest. 400 white peoples and about two black families. The two black Dads were harangued into speaking by white organizer. Having exhausted the black options, a resident of Indian heritage took the stage. Whitest BLM protest, like ever. Thoughts?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I received this list in an email from a black colleague, and I immediately forwarded it to my family and friends. I think it all makes sense. It’s not about us (white people) for once. Deal with it.

I will from the safety of my home! Good luck!

[Anonymous]

Saturday’s protests could actually change this country forever. A stunning rebuke to orange man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Already 28 K new cases today. I hope the protestors are happy when thousands more people get sick and die, we have to go into another quarantine all summer and the economy sinks into a Depression, and we have 50% unemployment. Thanks! Hope it was worth it!

No one will be happy about this. But the protests are still important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Vienna VA protest. 400 white peoples and about two black families. The two black Dads were harangued into speaking by white organizer. Having exhausted the black options, a resident of Indian heritage took the stage. Whitest BLM protest, like ever. Thoughts?

You live in a very affluent white town. Why is this shocking? It sounds like the organizer didn’t plan well if speakers were not Pre arranged. Newbie stuff.

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Anonymous wrote:Armchair racists, thank you for staying home.

Who’s an armchair racist here? Someone who says they aren’t going to “follow the direction of black people without question”? I’m not doing that for anyone unless they’re pointing a gun at me.

What wild shenanigans are you expecting to be asked to do?

There has been a lot of violence this week. Police violence. Protestor violence. There is also a global pandemic going on and social distancing guidelines in place. These are not absurd concerns.

It also doesn't say "listen to the official organizers.". It literally says any rando black person.

We're just responding to what was written. If people stopped defending it and just admitted it was overboard this thread would have died an early death.

Exactly. This sort of message is extremely alienating.

Oh my God white people. Black woman here. Come on! Even in these arguments you are centering everything on you!! Do you understand that in our workplaces and when we are out and about when white folks step into a space they can sometimes suck all of the air out of a room!!! We are not seen half the time - that is part of the reason this happened. You do all these mental gymnastics to create an argument to NOT support black people.

All we need you do to is just LISTEN! Stop making this about you and your feelings. If you don't want to be an ally on the streets stay home. There is plenty you can do FROM HOME support a black business, send money to an HBCU speak up when biases are at play in your office, if you are in a position of power review the salaries of people you are responsible for on your job by race/gender. Are there any inequities there? Why is that?

This movement will continue. There are plenty of white people that truly, truly get it. Just try LISTENING for a change.

Maybe you also need to listen to people who have worked inside the movement for police brutality reform, who know that this list reflects real bullying that is going on.

I know plenty of people directly involved in this movement. All I see here is a bunch of drivel about hurt feelings. You aren't committed then if you can't take a bit of straight talk. WTF do you think Black folks have been dealing with here. It's life or death, not a bunch of harsh talk.

Bye!!

The reality of the black pain from racism is not in doubt.

Lots of movements have been hurt by poor leadership. This list of rules is just one of many examples of how certain corners of this movement are riddled with toxicity. And it has nothing do do with the worthiness of the cause.

You can dismiss it as “hurt feelings,” but hurt feelings alienate contributing members of any organization. Can you imagine if a corporation said, yeah, lots of our employees have hurt feelings, but they need to get over it, because our mission is too important to worry about organizational heath.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Already 28 K new cases today. I hope the protestors are happy when thousands more people get sick and die, we have to go into another quarantine all summer and the economy sinks into a Depression, and we have 50% unemployment. Thanks! Hope it was worth it!

No one will be happy about this. But the protests are still important.

More important than millions of lives, including black lives, that will be affected by illness, death, poverty, unemployment, and homelessness? OK.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Armchair racists, thank you for staying home.

Who’s an armchair racist here? Someone who says they aren’t going to “follow the direction of black people without question”? I’m not doing that for anyone unless they’re pointing a gun at me.

What wild shenanigans are you expecting to be asked to do?

There has been a lot of violence this week. Police violence. Protestor violence. There is also a global pandemic going on and social distancing guidelines in place. These are not absurd concerns.

It also doesn't say "listen to the official organizers.". It literally says any rando black person.

We're just responding to what was written. If people stopped defending it and just admitted it was overboard this thread would have died an early death.

Exactly. This sort of message is extremely alienating.

Oh my God white people. Black woman here. Come on! Even in these arguments you are centering everything on you!! Do you understand that in our workplaces and when we are out and about when white folks step into a space they can sometimes suck all of the air out of a room!!! We are not seen half the time - that is part of the reason this happened. You do all these mental gymnastics to create an argument to NOT support black people.

All we need you do to is just LISTEN! Stop making this about you and your feelings. If you don't want to be an ally on the streets stay home. There is plenty you can do FROM HOME support a black business, send money to an HBCU speak up when biases are at play in your office, if you are in a position of power review the salaries of people you are responsible for on your job by race/gender. Are there any inequities there? Why is that?

This movement will continue. There are plenty of white people that truly, truly get it. Just try LISTENING for a change.

Maybe you also need to listen to people who have worked inside the movement for police brutality reform, who know that this list reflects real bullying that is going on.

I know plenty of people directly involved in this movement. All I see here is a bunch of drivel about hurt feelings. You aren't committed then if you can't take a bit of straight talk. WTF do you think Black folks have been dealing with here. It's life or death, not a bunch of harsh talk.

Bye!!

So how would you feel if you showed up at a general rally for something and a white person gave you this list? How would you react? What if white person said if you don't follow these rules than you aren't committed and that you should stay home?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Saturday’s protests could actually change this country forever. A stunning rebuke to orange man.

Nothing will change unfortunately. Try harder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Armchair racists, thank you for staying home.

Who’s an armchair racist here? Someone who says they aren’t going to “follow the direction of black people without question”? I’m not doing that for anyone unless they’re pointing a gun at me.

What wild shenanigans are you expecting to be asked to do?

There has been a lot of violence this week. Police violence. Protestor violence. There is also a global pandemic going on and social distancing guidelines in place. These are not absurd concerns.

It also doesn't say "listen to the official organizers.". It literally says any rando black person.

We're just responding to what was written. If people stopped defending it and just admitted it was overboard this thread would have died an early death.

Exactly. This sort of message is extremely alienating.

Oh my God white people. Black woman here. Come on! Even in these arguments you are centering everything on you!! Do you understand that in our workplaces and when we are out and about when white folks step into a space they can sometimes suck all of the air out of a room!!! We are not seen half the time - that is part of the reason this happened. You do all these mental gymnastics to create an argument to NOT support black people.

All we need you do to is just LISTEN! Stop making this about you and your feelings. If you don't want to be an ally on the streets stay home. There is plenty you can do FROM HOME support a black business, send money to an HBCU speak up when biases are at play in your office, if you are in a position of power review the salaries of people you are responsible for on your job by race/gender. Are there any inequities there? Why is that?

This movement will continue. There are plenty of white people that truly, truly get it. Just try LISTENING for a change.

Maybe you also need to listen to people who have worked inside the movement for police brutality reform, who know that this list reflects real bullying that is going on.

I know plenty of people directly involved in this movement. All I see here is a bunch of drivel about hurt feelings. You aren't committed then if you can't take a bit of straight talk. WTF do you think Black folks have been dealing with here. It's life or death, not a bunch of harsh talk.

Bye!!

So how would you feel if you showed up at a general rally for something and a white person gave you this list? How would you react? What if white person said if you don't follow these rules than you aren't committed and that you should stay home?

DP Don't be dense. These are not comparable situations. One is a protest against systematic racism and police violence against persons of color and the other "a general rally for something". A better comparison is if you are a man showing up at a woman's march and a woman gives you a list of similar rules. If you'd get butthurt about it, then, yes, you should stay home.

[Anonymous]

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Once again — if the civil rights organizations of the 60s could recruit white people to not only help, but assist in leading the movement, BLM can do so today.

You do not get it.

NP. The list is about behavior at protests. It's not about telling white people not to help/show up. It's about letting black people lead the movement.