Zoo Lights Shooting and Violence

[Anonymous]

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because street parking doesn’t start off by taking a ticket or passing through a turnstile. One can accidentally fail to pay for parking on the street by misreading a meter or losing track of time. One cannot accidentally jump a turnstile to evade fare.

I don’t think any parking violations should be considered criminal activity. Do I think jumping a turnstile and evading metro fare should be considered criminal? Yes.

Shorter PP: violations committed by teenagers are crimes but violations committed by me are not. Are you seriously suggesting that people don't routinely purposely violate parking regulations?

But there is a way to hold parking violators accountable. It’s called fines that double if unpaid, then a boot and then no registration renewal. What is the plan for actual enforcement and collection of tickets for Metro fare evasion?

So, this is TERRIBLE social policy, because the difference between a person who walks away from that parking ticket with a minor inconvenience, and one that ends up with their car seized, is whether they have the money to pay their ticket in the first place. So you are effectively leveraging a much heavier weight on a poor person for the same crime, and therefore helping to keep them in poverty.

As JFK famously observed, life is unfair. If those on more limited incomes want to avoid the problems that come with not paying parking tickets, then they should be extra careful to park legally.

Or we could scale the parking tickets to value of the car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because street parking doesn’t start off by taking a ticket or passing through a turnstile. One can accidentally fail to pay for parking on the street by misreading a meter or losing track of time. One cannot accidentally jump a turnstile to evade fare.

I don’t think any parking violations should be considered criminal activity. Do I think jumping a turnstile and evading metro fare should be considered criminal? Yes.

Shorter PP: violations committed by teenagers are crimes but violations committed by me are not. Are you seriously suggesting that people don't routinely purposely violate parking regulations?

But there is a way to hold parking violators accountable. It’s called fines that double if unpaid, then a boot and then no registration renewal. What is the plan for actual enforcement and collection of tickets for Metro fare evasion?

So, this is TERRIBLE social policy, because the difference between a person who walks away from that parking ticket with a minor inconvenience, and one that ends up with their car seized, is whether they have the money to pay their ticket in the first place. So you are effectively leveraging a much heavier weight on a poor person for the same crime, and therefore helping to keep them in poverty.

As JFK famously observed, life is unfair. If those on more limited incomes want to avoid the problems that come with not paying parking tickets, then they should be extra careful to park legally.

Or we could scale the parking tickets to value of the car.

Does that formula still apply if the violator has stolen the vehicle ?

[Anonymous]

Still no arrests

[Anonymous]

Wow just saw the video of 50 teens fighting in the frozen yogurt shop across the street. poor owner and his wife got beaten up too. So scary and out of control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow just saw the video of 50 teens fighting in the frozen yogurt shop across the street. poor owner and his wife got beaten up too. So scary and out of control.

And no arrests

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow just saw the video of 50 teens fighting in the frozen yogurt shop across the street. poor owner and his wife got beaten up too. So scary and out of control.

And no arrests

The mayor and some of the council don’t want to mess with their base.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow just saw the video of 50 teens fighting in the frozen yogurt shop across the street. poor owner and his wife got beaten up too. So scary and out of control.

And no arrests

The mayor and some of the council don’t want to mess with their base.

Or their best friends' lovely kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow just saw the video of 50 teens fighting in the frozen yogurt shop across the street. poor owner and his wife got beaten up too. So scary and out of control.

And no arrests

The mayor and some of the council don’t want to mess with their base.

Or their best friends' lovely kids.

I doubt these kids’ parents vote, are you kidding me? Bowser is popular with a certain segment of the AA educated classes in DC, but not so much with other AA residents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow just saw the video of 50 teens fighting in the frozen yogurt shop across the street. poor owner and his wife got beaten up too. So scary and out of control.

And no arrests

The mayor and some of the council don’t want to mess with their base.

Or their best friends' lovely kids.

I doubt these kids’ parents vote, are you kidding me? Bowser is popular with a certain segment of the AA educated classes in DC, but not so much with other AA residents.

Agreed. Those folks were Gray supporters

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow just saw the video of 50 teens fighting in the frozen yogurt shop across the street. poor owner and his wife got beaten up too. So scary and out of control.

And no arrests

The mayor and some of the council don’t want to mess with their base.

Or their best friends' lovely kids.

Their Base. Their best friends are developers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow just saw the video of 50 teens fighting in the frozen yogurt shop across the street. poor owner and his wife got beaten up too. So scary and out of control.

And no arrests

The mayor and some of the council don’t want to mess with their base.

Or their best friends' lovely kids.

Their Base. Their best friends are developers.

Fair point.

[Anonymous]

Wow. Just wow. And total silence from the mayor.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/zoolights-chaos-video-shows-kids-mob-store-near-national-zoo-attack-employees

[Anonymous]

Honestly this make me wary of taking my kids downtown and to zoo lights. I'm not even sure how you'd protect yourself when they are beating up shop owners.

[Anonymous]

There is an argument to be made that DC should have its own local prosecutor, as opposed to the system in place now, in which the US Attorney prosecutes all DC crimes (with some very minor exceptions) in addition to federal crimes. That way, DC could follow the lead of neighboring jurisdictions Fairfax and Arlington, which just elected progressive prosecutors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly this make me wary of taking my kids downtown and to zoo lights. I'm not even sure how you'd protect yourself when they are beating up shop owners.

In other words, never leave Ashburn?