Caravan with Central Americans heading to border

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

It bears repeating. A lot.

No, it does not. The caravan isn't headed for Ellis Island. They are planning on sneaking over the border like criminals.

They're planning on turning themselves in to ask for asylum. That's hardly "sneaking."

Have you actually talked to any of them? Or listened to reporters' interviews with any of them? Heartbreaking stories of murder and rape and threats and traumatized children.

But when you have no heart then it can't be broken. So good on you for your callousness toward fellow human beings.

From what I know about asylum, you're supposed to turn yourself in to the first safe country you enter. Country-shopping isn't the point of asylum. If that's true, the fact that they traversed Mexico without turning themselves in will speak against them.

You're exactly right. They're in Mexico now. They lose their asylum status coming from Mexico to the U.S.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

It bears repeating. A lot.

You are confusing theater with law.

There isn't anything in the U.S. immigration laws that welcomes people into the country just because they are poor, huddled and yearning to breathe free. The asylum threshold is quite narrow and just being poor doesn't clear it. I don't know why you pretend that the law is what you want it to be, and not what it actually is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

It bears repeating. A lot.

No, it does not. The caravan isn't headed for Ellis Island. They are planning on sneaking over the border like criminals.

They're planning on turning themselves in to ask for asylum. That's hardly "sneaking."

Have you actually talked to any of them? Or listened to reporters' interviews with any of them? Heartbreaking stories of murder and rape and threats and traumatized children.

But when you have no heart then it can't be broken. So good on you for your callousness toward fellow human beings.

I feel very sorry for these people. I truly do. But in all honesty what exactly do you propose we do? Would you propose letting anyone into the US who has heartbreaking stories of murder, rape and threats of traumatized children? Because that is happening all over the world.

Turning a blind eye to the suffering of people is not what Great America about. We certainly can be as bad as Saudi Arabia - but I hope that's not our ideal.

Ok so my question remains- what exactly do you propose we do? Would you propose letting anyone into the US who has heartbreaking stories of murder, rape and threats of traumatized children? Please answer that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am livid. I can't believe that we are going to waste money, yes WASTE money, on a wall and sending troops to the boarder when illegal immigration across the boarder has been at a record low. There are so many more priorities like the opioid crisis, getting Puerto Rico 100% back on the grid, dealing with gun violence, securing health care and saving Social Security. It's unconscionable that we are chasing around Trump's imagined boogeymen using taxpayer's dollars. Un*f'ing*believable.

Actually securing the border would help fight the opiod crisis. 95% of heroin consumed in the US comes from Mexico. Stronger border security would aid in cutting the supply chain. And the drug cartels are not imagined boogeyman. There is a real enemy south of us. Yes, many are families fleeing for a better life but you would be burying your head in the sand not to acknowledge the level of crime that crosses the border as well.

February 15th hearing of the House Judiciary Committee:
A panelist who testified at the hearing—Dr. Keith Humphreys of the Stanford University School of Medicine—said that the opioid epidemic is, "…at its most destructive [in] rural areas that don’t have sanctuary cities and indeed generally don’t have cities at all. Recent immigrants are rare, yet opioid addiction is rampant. That’s because the opioid epidemic was made in America, not in Mexico, China, or any other foreign country.”

See: Purdue Pharma

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am livid. I can't believe that we are going to waste money, yes WASTE money, on a wall and sending troops to the boarder when illegal immigration across the boarder has been at a record low. There are so many more priorities like the opioid crisis, getting Puerto Rico 100% back on the grid, dealing with gun violence, securing health care and saving Social Security. It's unconscionable that we are chasing around Trump's imagined boogeymen using taxpayer's dollars. Un*f'ing*believable.

Actually securing the border would help fight the opiod crisis. 95% of heroin consumed in the US comes from Mexico. Stronger border security would aid in cutting the supply chain. And the drug cartels are not imagined boogeyman. There is a real enemy south of us. Yes, many are families fleeing for a better life but you would be burying your head in the sand not to acknowledge the level of crime that crosses the border as well.

February 15th hearing of the House Judiciary Committee:
A panelist who testified at the hearing—Dr. Keith Humphreys of the Stanford University School of Medicine—said that the opioid epidemic is, "…at its most destructive [in] rural areas that don’t have sanctuary cities and indeed generally don’t have cities at all. Recent immigrants are rare, yet opioid addiction is rampant. That’s because the opioid epidemic was made in America, not in Mexico, China, or any other foreign country.”

See: Purdue Pharma

I'm not claiming that the problem wasn't American made. Of course big pharma and overzealous doctors are to blame for the opioid epidemic. You missed my point entirely though. My point is where do you think all the heroin and fentanyl is coming from? Do some research. 95% of it is comes from Mexico. And the cartels are brutal brutal people that you do not want in our country. Cut off the supply chain, or at least try to minimize it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am livid. I can't believe that we are going to waste money, yes WASTE money, on a wall and sending troops to the boarder when illegal immigration across the boarder has been at a record low. There are so many more priorities like the opioid crisis, getting Puerto Rico 100% back on the grid, dealing with gun violence, securing health care and saving Social Security. It's unconscionable that we are chasing around Trump's imagined boogeymen using taxpayer's dollars. Un*f'ing*believable.

Actually securing the border would help fight the opiod crisis. 95% of heroin consumed in the US comes from Mexico. Stronger border security would aid in cutting the supply chain. And the drug cartels are not imagined boogeyman. There is a real enemy south of us. Yes, many are families fleeing for a better life but you would be burying your head in the sand not to acknowledge the level of crime that crosses the border as well.

February 15th hearing of the House Judiciary Committee:
A panelist who testified at the hearing—Dr. Keith Humphreys of the Stanford University School of Medicine—said that the opioid epidemic is, "…at its most destructive [in] rural areas that don’t have sanctuary cities and indeed generally don’t have cities at all. Recent immigrants are rare, yet opioid addiction is rampant. That’s because the opioid epidemic was made in America, not in Mexico, China, or any other foreign country.”

See: Purdue Pharma

+1

In 2015, 20K overdose deaths were from prescription opioids, and 13K were due to heroin.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/65/wr/mm655051e1.htm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hypocrisy of Mexico as it allows its people to flow illegally into our country, and its rancor with Trump for enforcing U.S. immigration law, is unreal. In Mexico, it is a FELONY to enter the country illegally, and anyone who helps an illegal alien is a criminal themselves. Furthermore, Mexico requires immigrants to be "useful to the country" and have the ability to support themselves and their families - and can imprison anyone deportee sneaking back in (even once) for 10 years.

https://dailysurge.com/2017/02/immigration-hypocrisy-mexico-cant-ways/

+1
Liberals are breathtakingly simple minded.

Agree. Their grasp on things are unbelievably simplistic. I remember arguing about Obamacare: Their mantra was "it's good for everyone to have insurance. Why wouldn't you want that?" and MY response was that it was impossible to 1) insure a greater number of people, 2) require insurance companies to provide more extensive coverage, and 3) have it all cheaper. Just as one example.

Liberals aren’t thinking, they are feeling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am livid. I can't believe that we are going to waste money, yes WASTE money, on a wall and sending troops to the boarder when illegal immigration across the boarder has been at a record low. There are so many more priorities like the opioid crisis, getting Puerto Rico 100% back on the grid, dealing with gun violence, securing health care and saving Social Security. It's unconscionable that we are chasing around Trump's imagined boogeymen using taxpayer's dollars. Un*f'ing*believable.

Actually securing the border would help fight the opiod crisis. 95% of heroin consumed in the US comes from Mexico. Stronger border security would aid in cutting the supply chain. And the drug cartels are not imagined boogeyman. There is a real enemy south of us. Yes, many are families fleeing for a better life but you would be burying your head in the sand not to acknowledge the level of crime that crosses the border as well.

February 15th hearing of the House Judiciary Committee:
A panelist who testified at the hearing—Dr. Keith Humphreys of the Stanford University School of Medicine—said that the opioid epidemic is, "…at its most destructive [in] rural areas that don’t have sanctuary cities and indeed generally don’t have cities at all. Recent immigrants are rare, yet opioid addiction is rampant. That’s because the opioid epidemic was made in America, not in Mexico, China, or any other foreign country.”

See: Purdue Pharma

+1

In 2015, 20K overdose deaths were from prescription opioids, and 13K were due to heroin.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/65/wr/mm655051e1.htm

And, 4/5 heroin users started abusing prescription opioids first.

Jones CM. Heroin use and heroin use risk behaviors among nonmedical users of prescription opioid pain
relievers - United States, 2002-2004 and 2008-2010. Drug Alcohol Depend. 2013 Sep 1;132(1-2):95-100.

[Anonymous]

We need more people like this.

Before the Escondido city council in California voted four to one to join the Trump administration’s lawsuit against the sanctuary state, a legal immigrant gave an impassioned speech about how he came to America.

“I speak to you as an immigrant myself,” he said Wednesday while wearing a “Make America Great Again” hat. “I came to this country 45 years ago with me and my mother. Okay. 45 years ago we were not offered sanctuary! We were not offered easier, softer way. Okay. We were told you have to be an American citizen and here’s what you have to do, and we did it. We worked hard. And we put in our time.”

The man said he was now a proud U.S. citizen, with the documentation hanging on his wall to prove it.

Watch his actual testimony here: http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/05/legal-immigrant-illegal-immigration-view/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

It bears repeating. A lot.

No, it does not. The caravan isn't headed for Ellis Island. They are planning on sneaking over the border like criminals.

They're planning on turning themselves in to ask for asylum. That's hardly "sneaking."

Have you actually talked to any of them? Or listened to reporters' interviews with any of them? Heartbreaking stories of murder and rape and threats and traumatized children.

But when you have no heart then it can't be broken. So good on you for your callousness toward fellow human beings.

I feel very sorry for these people. I truly do. But in all honesty what exactly do you propose we do? Would you propose letting anyone into the US who has heartbreaking stories of murder, rape and threats of traumatized children? Because that is happening all over the world.

Turning a blind eye to the suffering of people is not what Great America about. We certainly can be as bad as Saudi Arabia - but I hope that's not our ideal.

Ok so my question remains- what exactly do you propose we do? Would you propose letting anyone into the US who has heartbreaking stories of murder, rape and threats of traumatized children? Please answer that.

Yes I would. The people who come to this country to escape poverty from Europe and committed Native American genocide should not have a greater right to this land than someone else is trying to escape poverty/violence and begging asylum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

It bears repeating. A lot.

No, it does not. The caravan isn't headed for Ellis Island. They are planning on sneaking over the border like criminals.

They're planning on turning themselves in to ask for asylum. That's hardly "sneaking."

Have you actually talked to any of them? Or listened to reporters' interviews with any of them? Heartbreaking stories of murder and rape and threats and traumatized children.

But when you have no heart then it can't be broken. So good on you for your callousness toward fellow human beings.

I feel very sorry for these people. I truly do. But in all honesty what exactly do you propose we do? Would you propose letting anyone into the US who has heartbreaking stories of murder, rape and threats of traumatized children? Because that is happening all over the world.

Turning a blind eye to the suffering of people is not what Great America about. We certainly can be as bad as Saudi Arabia - but I hope that's not our ideal.

Ok so my question remains- what exactly do you propose we do? Would you propose letting anyone into the US who has heartbreaking stories of murder, rape and threats of traumatized children? Please answer that.

Yes I would. The people who come to this country to escape poverty from Europe and committed Native American genocide should not have a greater right to this land than someone else is trying to escape poverty/violence and begging asylum.

Another liberal who can't separate emotion from legal reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

It bears repeating. A lot.

No, it does not. The caravan isn't headed for Ellis Island. They are planning on sneaking over the border like criminals.

They're planning on turning themselves in to ask for asylum. That's hardly "sneaking."

Have you actually talked to any of them? Or listened to reporters' interviews with any of them? Heartbreaking stories of murder and rape and threats and traumatized children.

But when you have no heart then it can't be broken. So good on you for your callousness toward fellow human beings.

I feel very sorry for these people. I truly do. But in all honesty what exactly do you propose we do? Would you propose letting anyone into the US who has heartbreaking stories of murder, rape and threats of traumatized children? Because that is happening all over the world.

Turning a blind eye to the suffering of people is not what Great America about. We certainly can be as bad as Saudi Arabia - but I hope that's not our ideal.

Ok so my question remains- what exactly do you propose we do? Would you propose letting anyone into the US who has heartbreaking stories of murder, rape and threats of traumatized children? Please answer that.

Yes I would. The people who come to this country to escape poverty from Europe and committed Native American genocide should not have a greater right to this land than someone else is trying to escape poverty/violence and begging asylum.

So, you are essentially for open borders?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Yes I would. The people who come to this country to escape poverty from Europe and committed Native American genocide should not have a greater right to this land than someone else is trying to escape poverty/violence and begging asylum.

The rules for asylum is that you apply in the first safe country you traverse. Country-shopping isn't about asylum. The migrants went through Mexico without asking for asylum.

Poverty is not grounds for asylum under the U.S. law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.”

It bears repeating. A lot.

No, it does not. The caravan isn't headed for Ellis Island. They are planning on sneaking over the border like criminals.

They're planning on turning themselves in to ask for asylum. That's hardly "sneaking."

Have you actually talked to any of them? Or listened to reporters' interviews with any of them? Heartbreaking stories of murder and rape and threats and traumatized children.

But when you have no heart then it can't be broken. So good on you for your callousness toward fellow human beings.

I feel very sorry for these people. I truly do. But in all honesty what exactly do you propose we do? Would you propose letting anyone into the US who has heartbreaking stories of murder, rape and threats of traumatized children? Because that is happening all over the world.

Turning a blind eye to the suffering of people is not what Great America about. We certainly can be as bad as Saudi Arabia - but I hope that's not our ideal.

Ok so my question remains- what exactly do you propose we do? Would you propose letting anyone into the US who has heartbreaking stories of murder, rape and threats of traumatized children? Please answer that.

Yes I would. The people who come to this country to escape poverty from Europe and committed Native American genocide should not have a greater right to this land than someone else is trying to escape poverty/violence and begging asylum.

Another liberal who can't separate emotion from legal reality.

America's history should make Americans side with immigrants's plight. This is not about emotion. It is about the foundation of this country. But, you are a selfish conservative who wants to whitewash the history and twist the law to fit your opinion.

We have very strict asylum law that would allow immigrant to settle in US, if an immigrant can prove he/she is eligible. These asylum seekers can and should be evaluated on that basis in stead of being threatened by military power to even try the legal route.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hypocrisy of Mexico as it allows its people to flow illegally into our country, and its rancor with Trump for enforcing U.S. immigration law, is unreal. In Mexico, it is a FELONY to enter the country illegally, and anyone who helps an illegal alien is a criminal themselves. Furthermore, Mexico requires immigrants to be "useful to the country" and have the ability to support themselves and their families - and can imprison anyone deportee sneaking back in (even once) for 10 years.

https://dailysurge.com/2017/02/immigration-hypocrisy-mexico-cant-ways/

+1
Liberals are breathtakingly simple minded.

Agree. Their grasp on things are unbelievably simplistic. I remember arguing about Obamacare: Their mantra was "it's good for everyone to have insurance. Why wouldn't you want that?" and MY response was that it was impossible to 1) insure a greater number of people, 2) require insurance companies to provide more extensive coverage, and 3) have it all cheaper. Just as one example.

Liberals aren’t thinking, they are feeling.

BINGO! And any argument is always "how can you be so heartless"? Everything is framed in the terms of feelings. Never a concern for cost, consequences, or impossibility of policies.