Do you turn off your exterior lights? Neighbors giving us grief about ours.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:http://cescos.fau.edu/observatory/lightpol-environ.html


Perpetual light is not just harmful to wildlife, it's also harmful to humans.

And yes, you can put up blackout curtains, but that messes with your body's normal circadian rhythm. Let the night be dark, and let the day be light. Not sure why that is such a hard concept for some people here.


Black out curtains won't make you ill. Set your alarm clock and wake up and open the curtains for sunlight in the morning. You're nuts.


YES!!!!
This post seems a little crazy to me. The sun comes up really early and sometimes I just want to sleep in. I do not think blackout curtains are making me sick.
Loud neighbors are one thing. Neighbors who keep a reasonable light on are not being unreasonable.


It's fine you have the luxury of being lazy, but most responsible adults have to work early in the morning.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My porch light stays on all night. We have lights on the corners of the house that are on motion sensors. If one of those turns on overnight and shines into your window, my apologies, but hopefully it stops someone from breaking into your or my home.


Sounds like you're being neighborly, which is nice. But at the very least, you should at least direct the light away from your neighbors' bedrooms.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://cescos.fau.edu/observatory/lightpol-environ.html


Perpetual light is not just harmful to wildlife, it's also harmful to humans.

And yes, you can put up blackout curtains, but that messes with your body's normal circadian rhythm. Let the night be dark, and let the day be light. Not sure why that is such a hard concept for some people here.


Black out curtains won't make you ill. Set your alarm clock and wake up and open the curtains for sunlight in the morning. You're nuts.


YES!!!!
This post seems a little crazy to me. The sun comes up really early and sometimes I just want to sleep in. I do not think blackout curtains are making me sick.

Loud neighbors are one thing. Neighbors who keep a reasonable light on are not being unreasonable.


Would you direct your speakers to a neighbor's bedroom at night? That's the equivalent of someone directing light into a neighbor's bedroom. Neither is reasonable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://cescos.fau.edu/observatory/lightpol-environ.html


Perpetual light is not just harmful to wildlife, it's also harmful to humans.

And yes, you can put up blackout curtains, but that messes with your body's normal circadian rhythm. Let the night be dark, and let the day be light. Not sure why that is such a hard concept for some people here.


Black out curtains won't make you ill. Set your alarm clock and wake up and open the curtains for sunlight in the morning. You're nuts.


YES!!!!
This post seems a little crazy to me. The sun comes up really early and sometimes I just want to sleep in. I do not think blackout curtains are making me sick.
Loud neighbors are one thing. Neighbors who keep a reasonable light on are not being unreasonable.


You sound like the typical unhealthy ignorant American. I bet you don't think eating crap and never exercising is making you sick either.

https://sleep.org/articles/how-lights-affect-sleep/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5299389/

"Artificial light disrupts the body’s circadian rhythm—the body’s 24-hour sleep/wake cycle—and has been shown to affect things like brain wave patterns, hormone production, and cell regulation. Disrupting this circadian rhythm has also been linked to medical issues like depression, obesity, breast and prostate cancer, and cardiovascular disease. It’s even associated with sleep disorders like insomnia and delayed phase sleep disorder Condition in which major sleep episode is delayed relative to the desired clock time, possibly because it causes the suppression of melatonin, a sleep-inducing hormone."


Delayed sleep phase disorder (DSPD) is common among adolescents and further increases their susceptibility to chronic sleep restriction and associated detrimental outcomes, including increased risk of depression, drug and alcohol use, behavioral problems, and poor scholastic performance.


As for blackout curtains, they absolutely help you out at night but screw you up in the morning when you should be getting natural sunlight (and thus messes with your body's circadian rhythm)

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-be-a-better-sleeper/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2717723/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4830627/

You may love sleeping in utter darkness, but your beloved blackout curtains could be the culprit of your tiredness. If no daylight can seep through your windows, your internal clock won't know day from night. Exposure to sunshine in the morning will signal your brain that it's time to wake up and help you feel more refreshed.


Biological rhythms that repeat approximately every 24 hours are known as circadian rhythms. Light–dark patterns reaching the back of the eye synchronize our circadian rhythms, such as the sleep–wake cycle, to local time on Earth. Lack of synchronization resulting from irregular or insufficient light–dark exposures may lead to decrements in health and well-being.1,2
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://cescos.fau.edu/observatory/lightpol-environ.html


Perpetual light is not just harmful to wildlife, it's also harmful to humans.

And yes, you can put up blackout curtains, but that messes with your body's normal circadian rhythm. Let the night be dark, and let the day be light. Not sure why that is such a hard concept for some people here.


Black out curtains won't make you ill. Set your alarm clock and wake up and open the curtains for sunlight in the morning. You're nuts.


YES!!!!
This post seems a little crazy to me. The sun comes up really early and sometimes I just want to sleep in. I do not think blackout curtains are making me sick.
Loud neighbors are one thing. Neighbors who keep a reasonable light on are not being unreasonable.


You sound like the typical unhealthy ignorant American. I bet you don't think eating crap and never exercising is making you sick either.

https://sleep.org/articles/how-lights-affect-sleep/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5299389/

"Artificial light disrupts the body’s circadian rhythm—the body’s 24-hour sleep/wake cycle—and has been shown to affect things like brain wave patterns, hormone production, and cell regulation. Disrupting this circadian rhythm has also been linked to medical issues like depression, obesity, breast and prostate cancer, and cardiovascular disease. It’s even associated with sleep disorders like insomnia and delayed phase sleep disorder Condition in which major sleep episode is delayed relative to the desired clock time, possibly because it causes the suppression of melatonin, a sleep-inducing hormone."


Delayed sleep phase disorder (DSPD) is common among adolescents and further increases their susceptibility to chronic sleep restriction and associated detrimental outcomes, including increased risk of depression, drug and alcohol use, behavioral problems, and poor scholastic performance.


As for blackout curtains, they absolutely help you out at night but screw you up in the morning when you should be getting natural sunlight (and thus messes with your body's circadian rhythm)

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-to-be-a-better-sleeper/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2717723/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4830627/

You may love sleeping in utter darkness, but your beloved blackout curtains could be the culprit of your tiredness. If no daylight can seep through your windows, your internal clock won't know day from night. Exposure to sunshine in the morning will signal your brain that it's time to wake up and help you feel more refreshed.


Biological rhythms that repeat approximately every 24 hours are known as circadian rhythms. Light–dark patterns reaching the back of the eye synchronize our circadian rhythms, such as the sleep–wake cycle, to local time on Earth. Lack of synchronization resulting from irregular or insufficient light–dark exposures may lead to decrements in health and well-being.1,2


You sound like you have a lot of time on your hands. No doubt you are older and retired and have the luxury of waking "with the sun." That's nice.

We're still going to put lights on that field by your house. Just sell already and move to a retirement community out in the boonies where you won't be so bothered. This community is not for you.
Anonymous
My 2 neighbors leaves their back light on all night. The one to my left isnt a bother some the light is low and the walls blocks off the direct light.

The house directly behind me has their light up high and it shines thru my blinds just a bit.

I'm going to plant some fast growing bamboos to filter out some of the direct lights.

Also going to tell my landscapers to quit trimming the top off the vines growing along the walls.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My 2 neighbors leaves their back light on all night. The one to my left isnt a bother some the light is low and the walls blocks off the direct light.

The house directly behind me has their light up high and it shines thru my blinds just a bit.

I'm going to plant some fast growing bamboos to filter out some of the direct lights.

Also going to tell my landscapers to quit trimming the top off the vines growing along the walls.


Please DO NOT plant bamboo. It is AWFUL. Some towns are actually banning bamboo because it is so invasive.

We leave our front lights on and side door light on at night and our neighbor actually told us he appreciates that we leave the side light on.
Our neighbor at the back has an extremely bright light that was pointed up and shined into our room at night. He was a curmudgeon so we never addressed it with him but when the house was sold we asked the new neighbor if she would mind changing the angle. She didn't have a problem with that and my husband went down and helped her make the adjustment.
Anonymous
Leaving some lights on outside is fine. It's the people that cut down all their trees and leave ALL their exterior lights on around their house that are annoying. I guess it's better than leaving no lights on outside..

The best is landscape lighting since you don't have direct lighting shining horizontally into your eyes, but that's obviously not very common.
Anonymous
We've always left our porch light on all night but it's not super bright. We have a driveway light on a motion sensor -- I definitely wouldn't want it on all night as our neighbor's house is pretty close and I expect it'd be a bother to them (even if they wouldn't say anything).
Anonymous
You all are blessed if this is the only problem in your lives.
Anonymous
I read only the first and this last page. This thread took 6 years and 15 pages to devolve to suggested BB gun shootings, black out curtains causing illness, and threats for old people to relocate to retirement homes if they can't take the light.

DCUM never fails to amuse me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I read only the first and this last page. This thread took 6 years and 15 pages to devolve to suggested BB gun shootings, black out curtains causing illness, and threats for old people to relocate to retirement homes if they can't take the light.

DCUM never fails to amuse me.

Oh, the BB gun suggestions and name calling came early, too.

When this thread started, I lived in a condo in the city where the street lights shined in between the shades. I wore a sleep mask to block the light. It wasn't a big deal.

Now, we've moved to a wooded suburb and I have one of those neighbors who lights up their property like it's a 7-11. We laugh because he seems to be at war with his location - he doesn't like the old trees and hates deer (I once saw his wife come running out into their yard clanging two pots to scare away a couple deer!). His garage flood lights up our master, even with shades and curtains over them. It just means I still wear my sleep mask.

Who knows where we'll live the next time this thread comes up!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My 2 neighbors leaves their back light on all night. The one to my left isnt a bother some the light is low and the walls blocks off the direct light.

The house directly behind me has their light up high and it shines thru my blinds just a bit.

I'm going to plant some fast growing bamboos to filter out some of the direct lights.

Also going to tell my landscapers to quit trimming the top off the vines growing along the walls.


Please DO NOT plant bamboo. It is AWFUL. Some towns are actually banning bamboo because it is so invasive.

We leave our front lights on and side door light on at night and our neighbor actually told us he appreciates that we leave the side light on.
Our neighbor at the back has an extremely bright light that was pointed up and shined into our room at night. He was a curmudgeon so we never addressed it with him but when the house was sold we asked the new neighbor if she would mind changing the angle. She didn't have a problem with that and my husband went down and helped her make the adjustment.


Do it!!! Revenge is sweet.
Anonymous
Wow! I am having the same problem. I live in an old house that has nice big windows. My neighbor shines a very bright light outside his garage and his light is not anywhere near any of his windows. When we sit on our back porch we are lit up by his light, and when we sit in our sunroom, I can read the names of the books on our shelves by his light. It is not pleasant to sit in those rooms any more or to be outside. We live in an old house which cannot be air conditioned and we need the windows opened so no window air conditioners either. Their light shines straight in to our house and lights all of our house up. They never experience the obnoxiousness of their own lights. When I walk out my back door, their light goes on when it is on sensor. Most of the time they keep it on all night long. We really don't want to live here any more. I think they should move it so that it is on the front of their house and so that it illuminates their house and not mine.
Anonymous
We didn't buy a house once because when we drove out at night, you could see the neighbors' light shining into the bedroom we would have used.
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