Why would parents send kid to school without coat in 20 degree weather?

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Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

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This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Yes, it’s such a parenting fail to not fully break the will of a stubborn child when they’re young. Moron.

I'm sure one day when your child is a teen you'll be singing a different tune. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

My oldest is a teen. I’ve never subscribed to the “total compliance, or else” model of parenting. Children should have some measure of control over their lives. If that means taking off their coat and being cold as a consequence, that’s fine.

You have no rules they just have to follow without having any input. Because I find that to be extremely implausible.

[Anonymous]

It’s true though boo

[Anonymous]

My husband won't wear a coat either, some people just don't get cold. I trust my kid either to make the right choice or deal with the consequences.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Yes, it’s such a parenting fail to not fully break the will of a stubborn child when they’re young. Moron.

I'm sure one day when your child is a teen you'll be singing a different tune. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

My oldest is a teen. I’ve never subscribed to the “total compliance, or else” model of parenting. Children should have some measure of control over their lives. If that means taking off their coat and being cold as a consequence, that’s fine.

You have no rules they just have to follow without having any input. Because I find that to be extremely implausible.

Nowhere did I say there are no rules for my kids.

Let’s be real here. You have to keep wildly misinterpreting people’s posts because you have decided to dig in your heels and win this Very Important Internet Argument even though you know it’s ridiculous. So you claim that it’s not possible for a child who owns a coat to not be wearing that coat if it’s cold out. That anyone whose child is seen in public without a coat must be a neglectful parent. That anyone who contradicts you on either of those first two points must therefore also be a terrible parent. You are f-ing nuts, and I’m sorry for having wasted any amount of my life interacting with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Yes, it’s such a parenting fail to not fully break the will of a stubborn child when they’re young. Moron.

I'm sure one day when your child is a teen you'll be singing a different tune. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

My oldest is a teen. I’ve never subscribed to the “total compliance, or else” model of parenting. Children should have some measure of control over their lives. If that means taking off their coat and being cold as a consequence, that’s fine.

You have some strange fantasy in your own mind about how I parent. Since a very young age some things were non-negotiable but we allowed broad leeway for all other things that were not important life skills. This approach created enough trust that our child doesn’t throw a full on tantrum just because we asked them to put on proper clothing. We laid the groundwork in the toddler years so that we didn’t end up with a kid who is not selfish and a know it all once older. They get enough freedom to make personal choices that they don’t feel the need to tantrum about basic things like wearing a coat. Kids don’t scream and argue about jackets if they feel heard and respected by their parents in the first place and the proof of what I say is waiting for you this afternoon at pickup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Yes, it’s such a parenting fail to not fully break the will of a stubborn child when they’re young. Moron.

I'm sure one day when your child is a teen you'll be singing a different tune. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

My oldest is a teen. I’ve never subscribed to the “total compliance, or else” model of parenting. Children should have some measure of control over their lives. If that means taking off their coat and being cold as a consequence, that’s fine.

You have no rules they just have to follow without having any input. Because I find that to be extremely implausible.

Nowhere did I say there are no rules for my kids.

Let’s be real here. You have to keep wildly misinterpreting people’s posts because you have decided to dig in your heels and win this Very Important Internet Argument even though you know it’s ridiculous. So you claim that it’s not possible for a child who owns a coat to not be wearing that coat if it’s cold out. That anyone whose child is seen in public without a coat must be a neglectful parent. That anyone who contradicts you on either of those first two points must therefore also be a terrible parent. You are f-ing nuts, and I’m sorry for having wasted any amount of my life interacting with you.

DP here.

You seem to be the one getting worked up and calling other people names.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Yes, it’s such a parenting fail to not fully break the will of a stubborn child when they’re young. Moron.

I'm sure one day when your child is a teen you'll be singing a different tune. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

My oldest is a teen. I’ve never subscribed to the “total compliance, or else” model of parenting. Children should have some measure of control over their lives. If that means taking off their coat and being cold as a consequence, that’s fine.

You have no rules they just have to follow without having any input. Because I find that to be extremely implausible.

Nowhere did I say there are no rules for my kids.

Let’s be real here. You have to keep wildly misinterpreting people’s posts because you have decided to dig in your heels and win this Very Important Internet Argument even though you know it’s ridiculous. So you claim that it’s not possible for a child who owns a coat to not be wearing that coat if it’s cold out. That anyone whose child is seen in public without a coat must be a neglectful parent. That anyone who contradicts you on either of those first two points must therefore also be a terrible parent. You are f-ing nuts, and I’m sorry for having wasted any amount of my life interacting with you.

Please don't talk to me about not having "total compliance, or else" while at the same time admitting that some things matter to you enough to have that exact thing as a part of your parenting. It makes you sound dumb and hypocritical. You are a terrible parent if you can't do the basics like dress your children for the day ahead. The bar is very low for you apparently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Yes, it’s such a parenting fail to not fully break the will of a stubborn child when they’re young. Moron.

I'm sure one day when your child is a teen you'll be singing a different tune. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

My oldest is a teen. I’ve never subscribed to the “total compliance, or else” model of parenting. Children should have some measure of control over their lives. If that means taking off their coat and being cold as a consequence, that’s fine.

You have some strange fantasy in your own mind about how I parent. Since a very young age some things were non-negotiable but we allowed broad leeway for all other things that were not important life skills. This approach created enough trust that our child doesn’t throw a full on tantrum just because we asked them to put on proper clothing. We laid the groundwork in the toddler years so that we didn’t end up with a kid who is not selfish and a know it all once older. They get enough freedom to make personal choices that they don’t feel the need to tantrum about basic things like wearing a coat. Kids don’t scream and argue about jackets if they feel heard and respected by their parents in the first place and the proof of what I say is waiting for you this afternoon at pickup.

OMG THANK YOU. Exactly!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Yes, it’s such a parenting fail to not fully break the will of a stubborn child when they’re young. Moron.

I'm sure one day when your child is a teen you'll be singing a different tune. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

My oldest is a teen. I’ve never subscribed to the “total compliance, or else” model of parenting. Children should have some measure of control over their lives. If that means taking off their coat and being cold as a consequence, that’s fine.

You have no rules they just have to follow without having any input. Because I find that to be extremely implausible.

Nowhere did I say there are no rules for my kids.

Let’s be real here. You have to keep wildly misinterpreting people’s posts because you have decided to dig in your heels and win this Very Important Internet Argument even though you know it’s ridiculous. So you claim that it’s not possible for a child who owns a coat to not be wearing that coat if it’s cold out. That anyone whose child is seen in public without a coat must be a neglectful parent. That anyone who contradicts you on either of those first two points must therefore also be a terrible parent. You are f-ing nuts, and I’m sorry for having wasted any amount of my life interacting with you.

Please don't talk to me about not having "total compliance, or else" while at the same time admitting that some things matter to you enough to have that exact thing as a part of your parenting. It makes you sound dumb and hypocritical. You are a terrible parent if you can't do the basics like dress your children for the day ahead. The bar is very low for you apparently.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Yes, it’s such a parenting fail to not fully break the will of a stubborn child when they’re young. Moron.

I'm sure one day when your child is a teen you'll be singing a different tune. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

My oldest is a teen. I’ve never subscribed to the “total compliance, or else” model of parenting. Children should have some measure of control over their lives. If that means taking off their coat and being cold as a consequence, that’s fine.

You have no rules they just have to follow without having any input. Because I find that to be extremely implausible.

Nowhere did I say there are no rules for my kids.

Let’s be real here. You have to keep wildly misinterpreting people’s posts because you have decided to dig in your heels and win this Very Important Internet Argument even though you know it’s ridiculous. So you claim that it’s not possible for a child who owns a coat to not be wearing that coat if it’s cold out. That anyone whose child is seen in public without a coat must be a neglectful parent. That anyone who contradicts you on either of those first two points must therefore also be a terrible parent. You are f-ing nuts, and I’m sorry for having wasted any amount of my life interacting with you.

Please don't talk to me about not having "total compliance, or else" while at the same time admitting that some things matter to you enough to have that exact thing as a part of your parenting. It makes you sound dumb and hypocritical. You are a terrible parent if you can't do the basics like dress your children for the day ahead. The bar is very low for you apparently.

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I see that you're as skilled in your writing as you are in your parenting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP here.

This thread went off the rails faster than I could imagine. Just to refocus my original question. I was specifically asking about elementary aged kids not taking a coat to school. They have cubbies in their claims so it's not a locker issue.

Nor was I talking about actually wearing a coat but parents who don't send them with a coat in their backpack just in case they have to go outside. My kids' school actually had an issue earlier this year that required everyone to leave the building. If this happened on a day like this, the kids would not be keeping warm running around.... they'd be standing in line freezing. Also, some schools are still having outside recess even in the cold, but elementary school kids without proper clothing aren't allowed to participate.

It just seems like most parents should want their kids prepared for things that aren't completely unexpected.

How do you know what kids have in their backpacks?

She has x ray vision and no kids of her own

She has no life

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Yes, it’s such a parenting fail to not fully break the will of a stubborn child when they’re young. Moron.

I'm sure one day when your child is a teen you'll be singing a different tune. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

My oldest is a teen. I’ve never subscribed to the “total compliance, or else” model of parenting. Children should have some measure of control over their lives. If that means taking off their coat and being cold as a consequence, that’s fine.

You have no rules they just have to follow without having any input. Because I find that to be extremely implausible.

Nowhere did I say there are no rules for my kids.

Let’s be real here. You have to keep wildly misinterpreting people’s posts because you have decided to dig in your heels and win this Very Important Internet Argument even though you know it’s ridiculous. So you claim that it’s not possible for a child who owns a coat to not be wearing that coat if it’s cold out. That anyone whose child is seen in public without a coat must be a neglectful parent. That anyone who contradicts you on either of those first two points must therefore also be a terrible parent. You are f-ing nuts, and I’m sorry for having wasted any amount of my life interacting with you.

Please don't talk to me about not having "total compliance, or else" while at the same time admitting that some things matter to you enough to have that exact thing as a part of your parenting. It makes you sound dumb and hypocritical. You are a terrible parent if you can't do the basics like dress your children for the day ahead. The bar is very low for you apparently.

This sort of black and white thinking is so typical of the parent who find themselves cut off by their kids. The name calling, lack of nuance, rigid thinking, it all points to a certain type of person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Yes, it’s such a parenting fail to not fully break the will of a stubborn child when they’re young. Moron.

I'm sure one day when your child is a teen you'll be singing a different tune. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

My oldest is a teen. I’ve never subscribed to the “total compliance, or else” model of parenting. Children should have some measure of control over their lives. If that means taking off their coat and being cold as a consequence, that’s fine.

You have no rules they just have to follow without having any input. Because I find that to be extremely implausible.

Nowhere did I say there are no rules for my kids.

Let’s be real here. You have to keep wildly misinterpreting people’s posts because you have decided to dig in your heels and win this Very Important Internet Argument even though you know it’s ridiculous. So you claim that it’s not possible for a child who owns a coat to not be wearing that coat if it’s cold out. That anyone whose child is seen in public without a coat must be a neglectful parent. That anyone who contradicts you on either of those first two points must therefore also be a terrible parent. You are f-ing nuts, and I’m sorry for having wasted any amount of my life interacting with you.

Please don't talk to me about not having "total compliance, or else" while at the same time admitting that some things matter to you enough to have that exact thing as a part of your parenting. It makes you sound dumb and hypocritical. You are a terrible parent if you can't do the basics like dress your children for the day ahead. The bar is very low for you apparently.

This sort of black and white thinking is so typical of the parent who find themselves cut off by their kids. The name calling, lack of nuance, rigid thinking, it all points to a certain type of person.

You know you've lost the thread when you have to start making stuff up.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Send kid"
OP, your words matter. Instead of how you view parenting, in other families, the kid is deciding. Or forgetting. Or is expected to take a coat and doesn't, because they don't want to. The kid may be getting-out-the-door on their own, more independently. Maybe all on their own, parent not home when the kid leaves for school. Greater independence may have a more significant positive result vs the poor decision re: a coat

This. I will remind kids of the temperatures if it is much colder than it has been, but this is the most perfect example of natural consequences. My kids haven't worn coats to school since late ES.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because they don't want to actually parent their kids. They let their kids run roughshod and tell them how things are going to go instead of the other way around.

+100

This thread is very eye opening.

If your kid is so stubborn that they refuse to wear a coat in 20° weather to the point that they will throw a tantrum, then you have somehow screwed up parenting when they were younger. Raising entitled, stubborn, know-it-all kids is a major parenting fail.

Yes, it’s such a parenting fail to not fully break the will of a stubborn child when they’re young. Moron.

I'm sure one day when your child is a teen you'll be singing a different tune. Until then, enjoy your ignorance.

My oldest is a teen. I’ve never subscribed to the “total compliance, or else” model of parenting. Children should have some measure of control over their lives. If that means taking off their coat and being cold as a consequence, that’s fine.

You have no rules they just have to follow without having any input. Because I find that to be extremely implausible.

Nowhere did I say there are no rules for my kids.

Let’s be real here. You have to keep wildly misinterpreting people’s posts because you have decided to dig in your heels and win this Very Important Internet Argument even though you know it’s ridiculous. So you claim that it’s not possible for a child who owns a coat to not be wearing that coat if it’s cold out. That anyone whose child is seen in public without a coat must be a neglectful parent. That anyone who contradicts you on either of those first two points must therefore also be a terrible parent. You are f-ing nuts, and I’m sorry for having wasted any amount of my life interacting with you.

Please don't talk to me about not having "total compliance, or else" while at the same time admitting that some things matter to you enough to have that exact thing as a part of your parenting. It makes you sound dumb and hypocritical. You are a terrible parent if you can't do the basics like dress your children for the day ahead. The bar is very low for you apparently.

This sort of black and white thinking is so typical of the parent who find themselves cut off by their kids. The name calling, lack of nuance, rigid thinking, it all points to a certain type of person.

You know you've lost the thread when you have to start making stuff up.....

If that was true this would have been over on page 1. But someone who can't imagine kids running hot has just gone on and on with the vitriol for pages. It's bizarre.