Between Gaza and Iran, has Israel gone too far?

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Anonymous wrote:The myth of Israel being a victim is finally being shattered.

Yup, despite the fact that they assassinated almost every journalist in Gaza, don't let international journalist to go in independently, and the media is overwhelming repeating their talking points, people are finally seeing the true nature of Israel that it is and has been since it's inception.

Before its inception really. Have to remember King David hotel and all that.

true, Iran has never assassinated anyone:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_assassinations

Israel killed a lot more people in the King David hotel bombing than Iran has in its entire history per your list. Iran also seems to go after its dissidents. Israel doesn't care if you're Israeli, Palestinian, Iranian, British, American, Syrian, etc..

Its absolutely clear which is the destabilizing force for the region. Its a testament to Israeli control of media that anyone thinks otherwise.

You’re aware that Israel didn’t exist at the time of the King David Hotel bombing, right?

Oops.

You’re aware the Irgun bombed the hotel? Jewish terror groups are the first terror groups in the area. They brought terror to the region

The formation of the Jewish militias were a direct response to escalating violence against Jewish communities during the early 20th century, notably after the 1920 Nebi Musa riots, the 1921 Jaffa riots, and the 1929 Hebron massacre. The Muslims weren’t innocent bystanders.

In 1909, an organization called Hashomer (the Guardian) was founded by Yitzhak Ben Zvi and David Ben-Gurion as the first paramilitary formation which raised the slogan “Judaea was lost by blood and fire and will rise again by blood and fire.”

The Arab population felt threatened as early as the 1880s with the arrival of the first aliyah. The Arab population in the Palestine region began protesting against the acquisition of lands by the Jewish population. As a result, the Ottoman authorities banned land sales to foreigners in 1892. Clearly, tensions were already high.

Here's a link to an archived newspaper article dated April 18, 1908 which described a riot in Jaffa that led to the hospitalization and injuries of 13 Jews. The Arabs tried to burn down the hotel they were hiding in.

https://www.nli.org.il/en/newspapers/refadv/1...CtxTI--------------1

Attacks on Jewish communities rose even more following the 1908 Young Turks Revolt. The Hashomer formed the following year in response to the ongoing violence. The Hashomer itself never numbered more than 100 members. They eventually fell out of favor with settlements for their policies and were replaced by the Haganah.

There was no single Zionist stance toward the local Arab population and no unified plan to push the Arabs out by force. Rather, views differed markedly across the movement. Case in point Theodor Herzl, one of the early thought leaders, did not foresee any conflict between Jews and Arabs. Herzl wanted to win over non-Jewish opinion for Zionism. He thought a rising economic tide would lift all boats. He imagined a society where Jews and Arabs could coexist peacefully, with Arabs enjoying equal rights and improved living standards.

Nobody gives an effing crap about what was what in 1908. I suppose you support the Russian invasion in Ukraine as Ukraine never existed as a country until the 1990s.
You are too stupid for words, Giselle.

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Anonymous wrote:This is madness
I really hope America will not be dragged into this

I hope otherwise, as U.S power would end the conflict even more rapidly, saving lives and bringing about much needed regime change in Iran. A lack of commitment has resulted in Iran steadily working towards a nuclear weapon - it's time for decisive and definitive action to eliminate the mullahs and their insane theocratic, antidemocratic and antisemitic regime once and for all.

NP. Then you send your sons to die. Not mine.

You'd prefer to wait until Iran comes for them, than to prevent that from happening? Are you related to Neville Chamberlain?

Iran doesn’t have the capacity to come after my sons now in a preemptive war, and certainly my sons dying in an Israeli war doesn’t prevent Iranian terrorism. The Iranian terrorists who will strike in the US are already here.

Let me be clear. I am a political moderate. I have actually been largely okay with the concept of Israel defending itself after 10/7. I don’t believe Hamas propaganda, and I have little respect for the UN as a force of good.

But I would rather let Israel be wiped off the map entirely than have American boys die to defend it. Israel has received billions from the US. If it can’t manage to defend itself with that money, that is Israel’s problem.

You don't have sons, so stop lying, Giselle.

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Who wants to bet Iran's regime falls within two months from today?

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. Isreal needs to bomb Iran off the map.

Why? Iran/Persia has a history as a great ancient civilization. It also has a population of 90 million people (vs. only 9 million for Israel). Its culture is rich and it has beautiful cities and cultural sites. As a matter of fact, Iran has 26 World Heritage Sites vs. only 9 for Israel. Y’all should really educate yourselves before making such hateful and ignorant posts.

They chant "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" in elementary schools every day. What a lovely doctrine! Iran supports Hamas in every single way, just a peace-loving ancient civilization!
Also, get over it; Xerxes has been dead for a long while. It's time to move on. Shah has been gone for a long while, and what have they done since? Love and democracy! No Revolutionary Guard whatsoever???

Everything you just stated does not justify “bombing them off the map.” If Xerxes has been long dead, so too have the ancient Israelites.

??? Narcissistic Hamas lover has no brain.

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Anonymous wrote:The myth of Israel being a victim is finally being shattered.

Yup, despite the fact that they assassinated almost every journalist in Gaza, don't let international journalist to go in independently, and the media is overwhelming repeating their talking points, people are finally seeing the true nature of Israel that it is and has been since it's inception.

Before its inception really. Have to remember King David hotel and all that.

true, Iran has never assassinated anyone:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_assassinations

Israel killed a lot more people in the King David hotel bombing than Iran has in its entire history per your list. Iran also seems to go after its dissidents. Israel doesn't care if you're Israeli, Palestinian, Iranian, British, American, Syrian, etc..

Its absolutely clear which is the destabilizing force for the region. Its a testament to Israeli control of media that anyone thinks otherwise.

You’re aware that Israel didn’t exist at the time of the King David Hotel bombing, right?

Oops.

You’re aware the Irgun bombed the hotel? Jewish terror groups are the first terror groups in the area. They brought terror to the region

The formation of the Jewish militias were a direct response to escalating violence against Jewish communities during the early 20th century, notably after the 1920 Nebi Musa riots, the 1921 Jaffa riots, and the 1929 Hebron massacre. The Muslims weren’t innocent bystanders.

In 1909, an organization called Hashomer (the Guardian) was founded by Yitzhak Ben Zvi and David Ben-Gurion as the first paramilitary formation which raised the slogan “Judaea was lost by blood and fire and will rise again by blood and fire.”

The Arab population felt threatened as early as the 1880s with the arrival of the first aliyah. The Arab population in the Palestine region began protesting against the acquisition of lands by the Jewish population. As a result, the Ottoman authorities banned land sales to foreigners in 1892. Clearly, tensions were already high.

Here's a link to an archived newspaper article dated April 18, 1908 which described a riot in Jaffa that led to the hospitalization and injuries of 13 Jews. The Arabs tried to burn down the hotel they were hiding in.

https://www.nli.org.il/en/newspapers/refadv/1...CtxTI--------------1

Attacks on Jewish communities rose even more following the 1908 Young Turks Revolt. The Hashomer formed the following year in response to the ongoing violence. The Hashomer itself never numbered more than 100 members. They eventually fell out of favor with settlements for their policies and were replaced by the Haganah.

There was no single Zionist stance toward the local Arab population and no unified plan to push the Arabs out by force. Rather, views differed markedly across the movement. Case in point Theodor Herzl, one of the early thought leaders, did not foresee any conflict between Jews and Arabs. Herzl wanted to win over non-Jewish opinion for Zionism. He thought a rising economic tide would lift all boats. He imagined a society where Jews and Arabs could coexist peacefully, with Arabs enjoying equal rights and improved living standards.

Nobody gives an effing crap about what was what in 1908. I suppose you support the Russian invasion in Ukraine as Ukraine never existed as a country until the 1990s.
You are too stupid for words, Giselle.

What’s the Giselle backstory?

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Cautionary tale about "misinformation" and info bubbles. Not that anyone is going to learn from this.

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Anonymous wrote:The real question is:
"Is this the beginning of WWIII?"

Hardly. Nobody is coming to aid Iran. It will be pummeled until the regime is destroyed, no other countries have any interest in seeing it survive in its current form.

The entire region is supporting Iran, including Israel’s friends UAE and Saudi Arabia. Turkey is also supporting Iran.

Israel doesn’t have one backer in the Middle East/neighborhood with the exception of Azerbaijan I guess but they’re not a major country.

The Israelis kept making nice with Azerbaijan in attempts to spy on Iran

I suspect Israel’s hubris will blow up in their face.

So Turkish warplanes have shot down Israeli Air Force jets and have attacked Israel? The UAE and Saudi Arab Arabia have invaded Israel? I must have missed those stories. Or maybe you mean there has been some limited rhetoric, without any substantive action behind it, which costs other Arab nations nothing while allowing for a pretense of pan-Arab pan-Muslim solidarity.

Iran is alone, deservedly so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The myth of Israel being a victim is finally being shattered.

Yup, despite the fact that they assassinated almost every journalist in Gaza, don't let international journalist to go in independently, and the media is overwhelming repeating their talking points, people are finally seeing the true nature of Israel that it is and has been since it's inception.

Before its inception really. Have to remember King David hotel and all that.

true, Iran has never assassinated anyone:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_assassinations

Israel killed a lot more people in the King David hotel bombing than Iran has in its entire history per your list. Iran also seems to go after its dissidents. Israel doesn't care if you're Israeli, Palestinian, Iranian, British, American, Syrian, etc..

Its absolutely clear which is the destabilizing force for the region. Its a testament to Israeli control of media that anyone thinks otherwise.

You’re aware that Israel didn’t exist at the time of the King David Hotel bombing, right?

Oops.

You’re aware the Irgun bombed the hotel? Jewish terror groups are the first terror groups in the area. They brought terror to the region

The formation of the Jewish militias were a direct response to escalating violence against Jewish communities during the early 20th century, notably after the 1920 Nebi Musa riots, the 1921 Jaffa riots, and the 1929 Hebron massacre. The Muslims weren’t innocent bystanders.

Don't ruin the narrative with inconvenient facts!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The myth of Israel being a victim is finally being shattered.

Yup, despite the fact that they assassinated almost every journalist in Gaza, don't let international journalist to go in independently, and the media is overwhelming repeating their talking points, people are finally seeing the true nature of Israel that it is and has been since it's inception.

Before its inception really. Have to remember King David hotel and all that.

true, Iran has never assassinated anyone:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_assassinations

Israel killed a lot more people in the King David hotel bombing than Iran has in its entire history per your list. Iran also seems to go after its dissidents. Israel doesn't care if you're Israeli, Palestinian, Iranian, British, American, Syrian, etc..

Its absolutely clear which is the destabilizing force for the region. Its a testament to Israeli control of media that anyone thinks otherwise.

You’re aware that Israel didn’t exist at the time of the King David Hotel bombing, right?

Oops.

You’re aware the Irgun bombed the hotel? Jewish terror groups are the first terror groups in the area. They brought terror to the region

The formation of the Jewish militias were a direct response to escalating violence against Jewish communities during the early 20th century, notably after the 1920 Nebi Musa riots, the 1921 Jaffa riots, and the 1929 Hebron massacre. The Muslims weren’t innocent bystanders.

In 1909, an organization called Hashomer (the Guardian) was founded by Yitzhak Ben Zvi and David Ben-Gurion as the first paramilitary formation which raised the slogan “Judaea was lost by blood and fire and will rise again by blood and fire.”

The Arab population felt threatened as early as the 1880s with the arrival of the first aliyah. The Arab population in the Palestine region began protesting against the acquisition of lands by the Jewish population. As a result, the Ottoman authorities banned land sales to foreigners in 1892. Clearly, tensions were already high.

Here's a link to an archived newspaper article dated April 18, 1908 which described a riot in Jaffa that led to the hospitalization and injuries of 13 Jews. The Arabs tried to burn down the hotel they were hiding in.

https://www.nli.org.il/en/newspapers/refadv/1...CtxTI--------------1

Attacks on Jewish communities rose even more following the 1908 Young Turks Revolt. The Hashomer formed the following year in response to the ongoing violence. The Hashomer itself never numbered more than 100 members. They eventually fell out of favor with settlements for their policies and were replaced by the Haganah.

There was no single Zionist stance toward the local Arab population and no unified plan to push the Arabs out by force. Rather, views differed markedly across the movement. Case in point Theodor Herzl, one of the early thought leaders, did not foresee any conflict between Jews and Arabs. Herzl wanted to win over non-Jewish opinion for Zionism. He thought a rising economic tide would lift all boats. He imagined a society where Jews and Arabs could coexist peacefully, with Arabs enjoying equal rights and improved living standards.

Nobody gives an effing crap about what was what in 1908. I suppose you support the Russian invasion in Ukraine as Ukraine never existed as a country until the 1990s.
You are too stupid for words, Giselle.

What’s the Giselle backstory?

She sends people blood-soaked letters to tell them they are murderers if they are not against Israel. She claims some nebulous Palestinian heritage. Identifies as LGBTQ and does not work, and is a rabid supporter, in words only, of Gaza and Hamas.

[Anonymous]

Who reported my post that the region does not support Iran? I know a lot about the region, as I live there!

[Anonymous]

Actually, "E" all of the above

[Anonymous]

So Netanyahu expects the US to finish what he started!!

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Anonymous wrote:So Netanyahu expects the US to finish what he started!!

I know. Why aren't more American citizens willing to die for their country Israel and their de facto president Ben Mileikowsky?

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Anonymous wrote:So Netanyahu expects the US to finish what he started!!

1st, so what? 2nd, only if you believe silly AI images and drivel.